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Went to a national chain to get my oil changed. Right before I took the wife and kids on vacation. We traveled through everykind of terrain from 7500' elevation to the sea level and through death valley. I did notice slightly less gas milage and a brief knock at start up. I took it last week to get an oil change(at a differant place) after our adventure and was immediately taken into the office and asked to sign a waiver, because the last place I took it to drained the oil and changed the filter, but did not add the NEW OIL. I am seeking an attorney to take care of the national chain (any suggestion) but I am incredibly impressed with GM's motor. I have a 2009 sierra

 

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Fred

 

Maybe the place that says there was no oil in it is actually the place you need to stay away from? Have you checked the level of the oil since you got it back from them? As you have probably come to understand, there is no way in hell you could have gone 8k without oil. Since you saw no leak, are not getting the low oil level light, and the pressure never changed, you can also rule out that you somehow managed to lose all the oil just seconds before you had it changed. I would suggest you check your oil level now and make sure you are not 6 liters overfull (who knows, maybe they did not pull the correct drain plug, if that is even possible?), make sure you have the correct level of trans fluid, pwr steering fluid, brake fluid and whatever else you can think of. Even if you were down as little as 3 liters, that light would have come on.

 

 

Interesting theory. Maybe they are lying or greatly exaggerating.

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+1 to what Don said. With no oil there would be lights flashing, bells going off and messages in your DIC center.

 

Also, don't waste your time on an attorney. You have no case. You have admitted that you never checked the oil level after the oil change, nor for an additional 8,000 miles. So you can't prove that oil was never installed.

 

One possible scenario is at the second oil change place. 2 different guys worked on your truck. One pulled the plug, drained, re-installed the plug and then got called away. #2 took over and not knowing what work had already been performed, pulled the plug got no oil and ran to the boss. It happens.

 

Another scenario might be you were extremely low on oil from consuming it, and the "tech" ran to the boss to tell him there was no oil.

 

Another is, as Doug alludes to, the second oil change place is not up to par and they want your business, so they lie about the oil situation to scare you from ever going back to the first place

 

ALWAYS CHECK YOUR OIL!

 

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Don't these engines also have the feature that if after engine start-up no oil pressure is present power will be cut to the fuel pump?

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Even cheap generators have a low oil shutdown switch which will cut out the ignition

if the oil level drops too low to prevent engine damage. I would be surprised if they did not have anything like that on late model cars and trucks. At least the engine should go into the limp mode.

 

My boat will do that if the engine either overheats or the oil pressure drops significantly.

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Well it's too late now but, if you did drive with no oil. The oil filter should have been brand new and clean when it was cut open. That's another thing they will probably ask for when you talk to a lawyer as it would prove there was no oil ran through it. My grandfather had an oil change place leave the drain plug loose after about 3 days the engine locked up and they paid for another engine. No way you could go that far without oil in there.

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The shop could have drained your transfer case thinking it was the oil? Are you a 4x4?

 

If you can verify that you drove it 8000 miles without oil....maybe you can get GM to run an add campaign with you and Howie Long! :D

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Before I bought my new 09 Silverado, I test drove an 07 with the 5.3L AFM engine last December. There was snow on the ground, the temp was below zero that morning, and this used 07 truck on the dealer lot had not been started for a couple of weeks at least. It started right up, but the oil pressure was a little low (probably about 25-30 on the gauge). When I got about 1/2 mile from the dealer lot, during my test drive, a red light came on, the warning bongs started (loud!) and the DIC screen said "Oil pressure low, stop engine immediately" or something like that. So we eased it back to the dealer. Oil on dipstick was a little low (at the add mark), but black as tar. We chalked it up to thick dirty oil not flowing too good on the very cold morning, but didn't buy the truck. The dealer changed the oil, sold the truck, and the new owners haven't reported any problems. So, to cut to the chase, I'd find it hard to believe the OP went 8K miles with no oil, when we didn't make it 1/2 mile with 5 quarts in the pan without all hell breaking loose.

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No oil, means engine is going to be on the build table. You probably did not drive without, ANY oil.. maybe not enough oil but no oil.... doubts exist bearing failure would have ruined your vacation.

 

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THere is no possible way this happened. Ive been working on GM trucks since 93. If you had zero oil your oil pressure gauge would of read zero and the light would of been on. Your thinking is ridicolous and to start a thread like this shows your lack of mechanical skills. Do your oil changes yourself and stop believing what "quicky" lube tells you.

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OK, Fred, here it is:

 

Are you telling us the absolute truth, to the best of your ability and knowledge, at this time? YES or NO. Plain and simple.

 

 

 

If this REALLY happened, I'm taking you up to the casino, cause you've got to be the luckiest dude I've run across in a long time. Keep on truckin', brother!

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I find it hard to believe too. With no oil, there would be no pressure, the DIC would give some kind of indication and the valves would be rattling.

 

On the big chain oil places, I use to use this local shop. Got to know them and I would just drop my keys on the counter and get that reassuring head nod from the guy and get a phone call some time later. Well times got tough so they sold out to a chain with a "M". My wife went first and she parks on an incline. She said we she started up the oil light came on. Checked it 1 quart low. A few weeks later my turn. The next day the DIC says Check engine oil. Barely anything on the stick. Never went back to the big "M"

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Went to a national chain to get my oil changed. Right before I took the wife and kids on vacation. We traveled through everykind of terrain from 7500' elevation to the sea level and through death valley. I did notice slightly less gas milage and a brief knock at start up. I took it last week to get an oil change(at a differant place) after our adventure and was immediately taken into the office and asked to sign a waiver, because the last place I took it to drained the oil and changed the filter, but did not add the NEW OIL. I am seeking an attorney to take care of the national chain (any suggestion) but I am incredibly impressed with GM's motor. I have a 2009 sierra

 

Thanks

Fred

No way the truck could run with no oil. Engine would sieze before you got home.

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There's no way an engine could go 8000 miles without oil. It's just not possible, not with the type of engine that's in those trucks anyway. The thing would've seized up shortly after 15 or so miles. The whole dash would've been going crazy. And I think the fuel pump is hooked somehow to the oil pressure switch and won't run with no oil pressure being seen. It may have been low on oil, but no oil, I just don't believe it. Like Red Green says, "you should do the work yourself, cause you don't know if someones did a bad job, but if you do it yourself......you know."

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