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#1 goatboy0067

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 08:00 PM

whats better i have been thinking of autocal for a while now and have heard of the trinity which is better i will be switching between tunes as i use the truck as a daily driver and to pull my job trailer and skidsteer. i have heard awsome things about the autocal and blackbear just wanted to see if anyone had any info or reviews on the trinity? i like the fact that i could display the guages on the trinity but im affraid that their tunes are just average?

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 08:27 PM

Comparing apples to oranges here,
There is absolutely NO comparison of a "canned tune" to a Black Bear custom tune, any kind of custom tune for that matter. They are two totally different things.

DiabloSport does have CMR tuners that would be able to do a custom tune for you. The process is similar to the AutoCal, you would receive it via email and have to do a few logs. Lew AKA: 06MonteSS is the man to talk to about a custom tune using the DS products.

Edited by BlackZ71Silverado, 10 March 2012 - 08:28 PM.

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 08:36 PM

black bear can make changes to the 6spd auto trans and the diablo can't.
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Posted 10 March 2012 - 08:45 PM

black bear can make changes to the 6spd auto trans and the diablo can't.


What changes?
2010 Silverado 1500 5.3L Black w/ Z71 appearance pkg.
CAI Tube - AEM DryFlow filter
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2" Rough Country level / 3" Rough Country rear blocks
MBRP T-409 SS 3" Performance Exhaust, single/side exit

'08 Silverado 6.0L V-Max
GMPP CAI - AEM DryFlow filter
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DiabloSport Predator
2" Rough Country level / 3" Rough Country rear blocks
Cooper Discoverer AT3's

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 08:47 PM

so they both can acheive great results. i have a 01 with the 8.1 and allison trans. i am looking to have a few custom tunes at my disposal for different apps. how is the customer service with diablo?

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 09:29 PM

so they both can acheive great results. i have a 01 with the 8.1 and allison trans. i am looking to have a few custom tunes at my disposal for different apps. how is the customer service with diablo?


LOL...Honestly, not all that great, depends on who you actually get to speak with. They usually put you on hold for quite some time and make you wait. If you are looking for customer service from them, better off using the forum, it's much quicker than being on hold and then get disconnected.

No personal experience with Black Bear but from reading, they have nothing but happy customers and great customer service.

Edited by BlackZ71Silverado, 10 March 2012 - 09:29 PM.

2010 Silverado 1500 5.3L Black w/ Z71 appearance pkg.
CAI Tube - AEM DryFlow filter
DiabloSport "inTune" programmer
2" Rough Country level / 3" Rough Country rear blocks
MBRP T-409 SS 3" Performance Exhaust, single/side exit

'08 Silverado 6.0L V-Max
GMPP CAI - AEM DryFlow filter
GMPP Performance exhaust
DiabloSport Predator
2" Rough Country level / 3" Rough Country rear blocks
Cooper Discoverer AT3's

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 09:38 PM

can the trinity change the shift peramaters in my trans ?
how much are cmr custom tunes ?

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 11:35 PM

I don't know about your 01, but diablo can't change anything with the gmt900 6 spd trans. Black bear can.


black bear can make changes to the 6spd auto trans and the diablo can't.


What changes?


do a search
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Posted 11 March 2012 - 01:16 PM

I don't know about your 01, but diablo can't change anything with the gmt900 6 spd trans. Black bear can.



black bear can make changes to the 6spd auto trans and the diablo can't.


What changes?


do a search


That's news to me.........The Trinity he asked about has full TCM support for the GMT-900's....do a search.
Why wouldn't they be able to change anything?

Edited by BlackZ71Silverado, 11 March 2012 - 01:18 PM.

2010 Silverado 1500 5.3L Black w/ Z71 appearance pkg.
CAI Tube - AEM DryFlow filter
DiabloSport "inTune" programmer
2" Rough Country level / 3" Rough Country rear blocks
MBRP T-409 SS 3" Performance Exhaust, single/side exit

'08 Silverado 6.0L V-Max
GMPP CAI - AEM DryFlow filter
GMPP Performance exhaust
DiabloSport Predator
2" Rough Country level / 3" Rough Country rear blocks
Cooper Discoverer AT3's

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 01:59 PM

So u have it and are making tcm changes? I did go to their website forum and read up. Looks like they finally got it and are working out the bugs. Good for them. Competition is a good thing. To the op, I would go to their site and read up and then search on black bear customers here and decide for yourself.


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Posted 11 March 2012 - 03:16 PM

No, I don't have it, never said I did. STILL waiting for it on the inTune. I do not own a Trinity....A lot of people don't like handheld tuners that come with the canned tunes which is obvious by reading through posts. If that's not for you and you want a custom tune and nothing else, go with Black Bear. When I got my truck, they did not offer the AutoCal and a custom tune was out of the question for me. Wasn't about to be swapping parts. If the AutoCal was available at the time, maybe I would have just gotten a custom tune I don't know. I do know that what I need, the DiabloSport products work fine.

Edited by BlackZ71Silverado, 11 March 2012 - 03:17 PM.

2010 Silverado 1500 5.3L Black w/ Z71 appearance pkg.
CAI Tube - AEM DryFlow filter
DiabloSport "inTune" programmer
2" Rough Country level / 3" Rough Country rear blocks
MBRP T-409 SS 3" Performance Exhaust, single/side exit

'08 Silverado 6.0L V-Max
GMPP CAI - AEM DryFlow filter
GMPP Performance exhaust
DiabloSport Predator
2" Rough Country level / 3" Rough Country rear blocks
Cooper Discoverer AT3's

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 04:45 PM

Hey I wasn't trying to start anything. Diablo has been saying TCM support coming soon for years. Funny that there was never a post by the Diablo seller on here saying it was finally available (or maybe I didn't see it which is possible). The forum on their website looked like some were having trouble with the TCM options. Again, to be expected since they are just now offering it. In either case, I'd prefer a handheld, but I'd like it tuned for my truck. There can be minimal differences with any mass produced vehicle, so a "box tune" is probably very good but I'd rather have an in person tune or a tune tailored to my specific truck like Black Bear. I believe Diablo offers that too, so who knows. So again, to the OP, read up and let us know what you do and how you like it.

Edited by SouthCo, 11 March 2012 - 05:09 PM.

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 05:05 PM

I would go with BBP. Justin has tuned 2 trucks for me and I will never go anywhere else.
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Posted 11 March 2012 - 05:44 PM

OP, as SouthCo stated, they both offer custom tuning BUT if you get a DS product be really careful who you allow to tune your truck. They sell to just about anyone even if you don't know how to tune. Don't make the mistake some guys did and have the place you bought it from tune your truck and have nothing but trouble.If you go that route, I would have Lew "06MonteSS" tune it and nobody else, he knows what he is doing............
With BBP you won't have any issues like that, they for sure know what they are doing.
2010 Silverado 1500 5.3L Black w/ Z71 appearance pkg.
CAI Tube - AEM DryFlow filter
DiabloSport "inTune" programmer
2" Rough Country level / 3" Rough Country rear blocks
MBRP T-409 SS 3" Performance Exhaust, single/side exit

'08 Silverado 6.0L V-Max
GMPP CAI - AEM DryFlow filter
GMPP Performance exhaust
DiabloSport Predator
2" Rough Country level / 3" Rough Country rear blocks
Cooper Discoverer AT3's

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 10:01 PM

So long as you return to stock, you should be good to go with HP Tuners- however, we use EFILive so I am not familiar with the way HP Tuners reverts to stock. You may want to check into the HP Tuners forum on that.

We have had many a customer, not to mention our own personal vehicles, go to the dealer after being returned to stock.

The only issue we have seen, was when one customer took his vehicle into the dealer without returning to stock (his solenoid was stuck open- a well known TSB). The dealer tried to deny warranty (due to LT headers, exhaust and tune), he took it to the BBB and wound up winning his case. The dealer could not show under the Magnusen Moss Act that any of the aftermarket mods were the problem.

We have tuned many a 2011 5.3, most of our 2011 vehicle customers go with the AutoCal so they can revert to stock.
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