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I have seen plenty of driveless Caddys over the years. Generally happens a little while after ending up in the wrong part of town. :cool:

 

Saw an interview of CEO Mary Barra last night & she did not want to put a deadline on it with regard to BOTH regulators & society accepting the idea.

She said the tech was there though & will be dependant upon all or most mfg's adopting the technology as well.

 

http://gmauthority.com/blog/2014/09/general-motors-ceo-mary-barra-sits-down-with-cnbcs-phil-lebeau-video/

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I have seen plenty of driveless Caddys over the years. Generally happens a little while after ending up in the wrong part of town. :cool:

 

Saw an interview of CEO Mary Barra last night & she did not want to put a deadline on it with regard to BOTH regulators & society accepting the idea.

She said the tech was there though & will be dependant upon all or most mfg's adopting the technology as well.

 

http://gmauthority.com/blog/2014/09/general-motors-ceo-mary-barra-sits-down-with-cnbcs-phil-lebeau-video/

 

haha, I'm exhausted.....guess I missed the r when i was typing.

 

I think the Supercruise is something that is more realistic than the "driverless" car for 2017. If you think about it the technology has to be almost there, but they just need to figure out a few odds and ends and then integrate all of it.

 

Partially my bad for being tired and taking part of the article title instead of thinking about it for 3 seconds and realizing the difference between supercruise and a true driverless car.

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Thought this was interesting and didn't see it posted anywhere on here. Personally I'm not too fond of "driving" a car I'm not physically controlling all the time.

 

 

http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/innovation/gm-says-driverless-cadillac-hit-road-2017-n198231

 

Yeah...great...and the dash boards in the trucks still keep cracking...I guess.

 

so long

j-ten-ner

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haha, I'm exhausted.....guess I missed the r when i was typing.

 

 

 

Yeah, was just joking. Still catch my self typing breaks when I mean brakes or similar sort of stuff.

 

The tech is cool, but the integration is going to be weird to say the least. The first few years where a majority of the cars are traditional vs this. Then add the unknown quirks & stories about failures that will no doubt follow.

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Yeah, was just joking. Still catch my self typing breaks when I mean brakes or similar sort of stuff.

 

The tech is cool, but the integration is going to be weird to say the least. The first few years where a majority of the cars are traditional vs this. Then add the unknown quirks & stories about failures that will no doubt follow.

 

yeah, I figured you were joking. I got a good laugh out of it when I realized it.

 

 

I think the worst part is going to be them figuring out how to get the vehicle to realize when there is a turn. Most of the sensors are probably there, you have lane departure so it recognizes the roadway, the sensors in the front already slow you down if it senses a slower vehicle when you are on cruise control, ect.

 

I think it will be interesting to see if they can get your vehicle to pass a slower vehicle on its own or if you still have to have some form of control over it. I'm sure the whole system will lead to a large number of very interesting stories about how accidents happened.

 

 

 

 

Yeah...great...and the dash boards in the trucks still keep cracking...I guess.

 

so long

j-ten-ner

 

the the technology investment money has to come from somebody's budget......

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I think it will be interesting to see if they can get your vehicle to pass a slower vehicle on its own or if you still have to have some form of control over it. I'm sure the whole system will lead to a large number of very interesting stories about how accidents happened.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh no kidding, had not thought of the stories the insurance co's are going to hear such as "it was that bleepin guys cars that started all of this..."

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I think driver-less cars could only work properly if every car on the road was a driver-less car, and they found a way to make it 100% reliable, which isn't possible.

 

If they all were, you would never run into a situation where your car would need to pass another car, because they would all be going the correct speed with appropriate following distance. What we have to remember is when computers are calling the shots, everything is EXACT. If the speed limit is 60 MPH, the car will do exactly 60 MPH, not 62 or 63 because you feel like it. You are just freight at this point, your along for the journey but have no say in the trip.

 

Also, insurance should go way way down, because human error is drastically reduced in driving, eventually it may not even be a factor. Insurance claims should hit rock bottom lows, therefore these rich insurance companies would have very few claims to pay out, which SHOULD mean very reduced premiums.

 

The potential problem I see is the amount of sensors that would need to be installed into the transportation infrastructure is mind boggling. To top it all off, this entire system which would be extremely complex, would still be at risk of power failures or corrupt computer files.

 

Imagine a glitch in the system where cars do not talk to each other for even a few seconds. You could have hundreds of thousands of car crashes in the country all happen within seconds of each other. Will the tow trucks that have to clean up that mess be automatically driven too, or will those who drive professionally for a living be able to keep manual control of their vehicles?

 

My honest belief is society is becoming lazier all the time, and more and more under skilled. People nowadays have a hard time learning how to become very good at things. The standards are so lax that anyone can be deemed "qualified" but the truth is very few people are. If today's kids never have to learn how to get out of tough situations alone, what is going to happen when they are in one of those situations and have no clue what to do?

 

I don't believe full automation is the answer. Teaching people better, expecting more from them, higher levels of intelligence and maturity, and having much higher standards would be better served, IMO.

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I think driver-less cars could only work properly if every car on the road was a driver-less car, and they found a way to make it 100% reliable, which isn't possible.

 

If they all were, you would never run into a situation where your car would need to pass another car, because they would all be going the correct speed with appropriate following distance. What we have to remember is when computers are calling the shots, everything is EXACT. If the speed limit is 60 MPH, the car will do exactly 60 MPH, not 62 or 63 because you feel like it. You are just freight at this point, your along for the journey but have no say in the trip.

 

Also, insurance should go way way down, because human error is drastically reduced in driving, eventually it may not even be a factor. Insurance claims should hit rock bottom lows, therefore these rich insurance companies would have very few claims to pay out, which SHOULD mean very reduced premiums.

 

The potential problem I see is the amount of sensors that would need to be installed into the transportation infrastructure is mind boggling. To top it all off, this entire system which would be extremely complex, would still be at risk of power failures or corrupt computer files.

 

Imagine a glitch in the system where cars do not talk to each other for even a few seconds. You could have hundreds of thousands of car crashes in the country all happen within seconds of each other. Will the tow trucks that have to clean up that mess be automatically driven too, or will those who drive professionally for a living be able to keep manual control of their vehicles?

 

My honest belief is society is becoming lazier all the time, and more and more under skilled. People nowadays have a hard time learning how to become very good at things. The standards are so lax that anyone can be deemed "qualified" but the truth is very few people are. If today's kids never have to learn how to get out of tough situations alone, what is going to happen when they are in one of those situations and have no clue what to do?

 

I don't believe full automation is the answer. Teaching people better, expecting more from them, higher levels of intelligence and maturity, and having much higher standards would be better served, IMO.

 

 

I think the driverless technology will likely be adopted more in cities an urban areas. I don't think much system wide adaptation would be needed, but vehicles would need to be able to communicate. I've seen theories for future traffic intersections which would completely eliminate signals and signage, but again the vehicles have to be able to communicate where they are with each other. Most of the technology would only need to be in the car, not much adaptation.

 

If by chance this does happen, I think you will also see multiple redundant systems. The best example I can think of for this is a Segway, they have at least 2 redundant systems so if one gets damaged, the Segway doesn't just die wherever you are.

 

I will also agree with you that society is getting lazier. I hate driving with all the "safety" features vehicles have now days and it would be beneficial for people to learn how to actually control a vehicle in case one of these features don't work.

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...My honest belief is society is becoming lazier all the time, and more and more under skilled. People nowadays have a hard time learning how to become very good at things. The standards are so lax that anyone can be deemed "qualified" but the truth is very few people are. If today's kids never have to learn how to get out of tough situations alone, what is going to happen when they are in one of those situations and have no clue what to do?

 

I don't believe full automation is the answer. Teaching people better, expecting more from them, higher levels of intelligence and maturity, and having much higher standards would be better served, IMO.

 

Thank you for your coment. Especially those two ^ paragraphs.

 

so long

j-ten-ner

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I trust Driverless/Autonomous cars as much as I trust Infiniti's Direct Adaptive Steering: and the answer is I DON'T. the only reason I trust GM's Electronic Throttles is because when they had Detroit Diesel; they introduced the Series 60 engine in 1987, which had THE FIRST fully electronic Throttle!

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You want a real bone chilling idea... driverless commercial semi trucks! Yep, being tested already. The game is on, now see how it all plays out. I would trust a driverless technology in a car far more than in a commercial semi truck, navigating heavy traffic, weather, sloppy roads, hilly terrain, all with a gross weight of 80,000 lb. Imagine that in your rear view mirror! Still in the infancy stage, but already to be put into production are semi autonomous commercial trucks. The driver can just slide the seat back and play on his iPad while the truck does its thing down the road. At a truck stop, the driver can get out and go inside and the truck can then go park itself, on its own. They expect the technology and other issues will be in place that by 2025 they will be able to go to full production and put them on the roadways in Europe and the U.S. They are even testing "pontooning" or convoys of totally driverless commercial trucks running down the road. With the way some folks drive their cars and pickups, this ought to be interesting!

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Even though the majority of accidents are caused by human error and not by mechanical/technical failure I'd rather do my own decisions at some point.

I can't see the advantage in a (independent) self driving car because you still have to focus.

Because if you don't and anything goes haywire you will not be able to take control in time.

A little software glinch, a flat tire, black ice or even a virus in the system and you're fu**ed.

 

A better infrastructure with a sufficient public transit system is worth more than to try to get the cars computerized to avoid the traffic gridlock.

 

so long

j-ten-ner

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