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2016 Ram 3500 now with 900 ft of Torque


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http://www.leftlanenews.com/ram-3500s-diesel-powerplant-gets-900-lb-ft-torque-rating-for-2016-88863.html

 

Weather you like Ram or not , they have come along way .

They seem like they are on a war path when it comes to power. ( see hellcat)

Also the RAM has a nice interior IMO, most magazines still say the leather and materias feel the best of any truck .

Im sure well see Gm's diesel rated higher soon and even Fords new diesel should be closebut , for 2016 this truck will be only one with 900 ft of torque .

As expensive as cars and trucks have gotten recently , you have to admit they do up their game often .....

GM ....Your move is next..... =)

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In all honesty, the next truck I buy, won't be a GM.

 

Ever since I drove a Super Duty, I am in love with those trucks. The interior is far more spacious than GM's largest truck, and I like the styling better. Heck, I even like the Dodge 2500 and 3500's they are making now, and that is coming from a guy who was always dead set against Dodge!

 

One can't ignore the progress others are making. Next truck for me will be an F250/F350, or a Ram 2500/3500. Sorry GM, you are just not bold enough to make me spend my hard earned on your vehicles anymore.

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I just started to kind of warm up to the new RAM's.

And then they put this grill on it. And to make it worse the letters on the tale gate are just a joke.

Regardless. 900 lb-ft is ...wow! The average semi truck has what...1300-1500 lb-ft?

 

so long

j-ten-ner

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Still would never buy one, don't like cummins or the trucks themselves. Know way to many people with problems with new cummins also. I'd take the current LML or fords 6.7 over this no question.

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I do not think the updated Dmax is due until 2017 model year?

 

Regardless, Dodge & Ford have had some high hp/torque numbers in the past few years, yet the GM counterpart either hangs with them or finishes ahead in the reviews. I am sorry, but lifting a cab of the frame of a truck(Ford) to do anything more than check the oil is insane.

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All that sounds neat regarding the Ram, but after being burned on a couple of Cummins ISX motors in commercial trucks, I do not want anything related to Cummins in my vehicles any more. I dearly loved the older Cummins N-14, but the new stuff has totally turned me off. So, they can put out all the impressive numbers they want, it will never move me to buy one. These folks are on power wars with each other. I wish they would focus more on reliability and up time, especially with the emissions stuff.

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http://www.leftlanenews.com/ram-3500s-diesel-powerplant-gets-900-lb-ft-torque-rating-for-2016-88863.html

 

Weather you like Ram or not , they have come along way .

They seem like they are on a war path when it comes to power. ( see hellcat)

Also the RAM has a nice interior IMO, most magazines still say the leather and materias feel the best of any truck .

Im sure well see Gm's diesel rated higher soon and even Fords new diesel should be closebut , for 2016 this truck will be only one with 900 ft of torque .

As expensive as cars and trucks have gotten recently , you have to admit they do up their game often .....

GM ....Your move is next..... =)

 

The Dodge Ram 2500-3500 with their transplanted diesel engine should never receive credit for an engine upgrade, ever. They don't even build their own engines. They have been supplied by Cummins for years and this is well known.

 

Until the people at Chrysler learn how to build their own diesel engines and make them compete with those who actually build their engines (GM, Ford), Cummins should receive any and all credit for their upgrade in power, not Dodge.

It seems as if Chrysler is trying to take credit for something they did not build.

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The Dodge Ram 2500-3500 with their transplanted diesel engine should never receive credit for an engine upgrade, ever. They don't even build their own engines. They have been supplied by Cummins for years and this is well known.

 

Until the people at Chrysler learn how to build their own diesel engines and make them compete with those who actually build their engines (GM, Ford), Cummins should receive any and all credit for their upgrade in power, not Dodge.

It seems as if Chrysler is trying to take credit for something they did not build.

I believe Ford's is still supplied by Navistar. Or did that change with the 6.7?
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No, Navistar and Ford no longer have any relationship with each other.

 

I could give a rip if the OEM of the vehicle makes or doesn't make their own motors. Who cares as long as it does the job? Actually, having someone else make a component that they specialize in makes sense. Why try to reinvent the wheel and waste money on R&D when someone else has already got the product ready to go? It is not a lot different than, say, a generator manufacturer using a Honda motor for their generator than making one themselves. Honda makes good motors, so use one of theirs and save all the hassle of building your own! I guess I have a bias in actually having the OEM not be the manufacturer of the motor in their vehicles. On the commercial truck side, it has generally been better when using a motor from a engine builder than one from the vehicle OEM. Many OEM's have not got the best track record with their own motors. Starting to improve, but still not as good as engines from engine manufacturers. Ask commercial drivers and operators how well they like the International Maxxforce or the Paccar MX OEM motors in heavy trucks. Be ready for a slew of newly invented swear words.

 

In the case of the Cummins in the Dodge, being able to go to a Cummins only shop and having them look at the motor can be a better thing. Those shops are Cummins licensed and have all the resources of the entire Cummins operation at their disposal. Those shops have only one goal in life.... maintaining and repairing Cummins products. Leave the rest of the pickup to the OEM dealer. Let those who make the motor work on it.

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Gotta laugh at the people hating on Ram for sourcing a diesel from a diesel expert. This stuff happens all the time. There are several years of Saturn Vues running around with Honda V6s. They don't even hide it. The H logo was right on the valve covers.

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A lot of the trucks made by freight liner and other vendors had cat engines in them. When Mercedes got in the mix they put their motors in them. I would like to see cat make smaller engines for 3/4 or 1 ton trucks. they make great motors.

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Always a possibility, but a remote one. Cat got out of the highway semi truck market in 2010, with no real motivation to return. Emissions issues were not worth the trouble. They did come out with a vocational truck, but even that motor is a rebranded International Maxxforce. Cat does not make a motor for a truck anymore. Cummins, Detroit Diesel are the only cross platform motors offered now. Everthing else is proprietary... Volvo/Mack, International, and Paccar (KW/Peterbilt). But even that, Detroit is primarily in Freightliner/Western Star. Cummins is offered in every highway truck platform (except Mack). So, except for the Cummins in the Dodge, it is highly unlikely we will ever see a diesel in a pickup that is not the OEM's proprietary engine.

 

Really sad.

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