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I know it will add a little power and I can't say I'm not into that, but I'm doing this mostly for it keep my intake valves clean. I don't want any issues with the dealer, so my plan is to make and aluminum plate with an upright to bolt the components on. This will fit and bolt into the second battery tray, so one bolt and it lifts out. I want to tap into the MAF with a harness so it removes clean, but can't find an extension or the plug type used on the 8 wire MAF to make my own. Hoping someone can help with this as I figure there is likely a turbo kit or something that has to move it. Now that I think about it I don't know what wire provides the signal either to signal the controller (one more thing to figure). Next it won't install well on the stock intake some I'm going to get an aftermarket intake tube that I swap out when removing the other 2 things to have a completely stock look. Note, I know the laws, but I know there can be issues when people try to avoid paying for things so I'm going to avoid the issue until my warranty is gone and that is why I don't have a tune either. The last I need is wiring. It needs a key on power source so I'm hoping to there is any under hood source for that and I'll use a relay to draw from my power block. There are LED lights for low and pump running. I don't think I'll even install the level filter as I don't have a tune which needs this to avoid damage, but I would like to know when it's running. So I need to get one tiny wire into the cab if there is a a key on source in the engine compartment.

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No idea how to install that but I'm definitely following because that sounds pretty sweet

 

 

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The install isn't that bad. It's just a tank with a level sensor that I'm not going to install. Then a pump connects using quick connect hose like many ice makers use. The outlet goes to an injection nozzle. Then there is a controller with 4 wires. One goes to key on power, a ground, a MAF signal, and the pump power. You do also have to ground the pump with the controller. The active LED is powered with the pump. The level LED just goes to key power and ground. The level switch turns it on and off. Tuning is pretty easy as it goes by wheel horsepower or boost. The 6.2L is close to the lower and middle nozzle change, so I'll start with the small one and set it to come on late. Then increase it until is has a negative effect on performance before taking the step back. If it runs with the full on set real early I'll try the middle nozzle. The other stuff is just me wanting to drill zero holes like my HID install and have it removable while looking professional.

 

As for the money. It's not very expensive to me. I got a great deal from a Vender of ours. It would cost the same to pull the heads of twice and manually clean the valves. Also, if I take it a part the warranty will likely be an issue even if I don't modify the motor, which I would while in there.

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Not knocking your decision or trying to be a prick just offering an opinion. In all honesty, from a performance standpoint on a n/a engine without a tune your not going to gain much of anything. Even with a tune it's not something I would waste my time with on a daily driven street car. I've been drag racing in one form or another for over 20 years and believe me there is more power to be had easier and cheaper than meth injection on n/a engines. From a keeping your valves clean point of view, your really passing in the wind. You have the initial cost of the system and you will need to fill the tank probably twice per tank of gas. While that won't be a major cost it will add up over time.

 

You said for the cost of the system you could pull the heads twice and manually clean but you don't want to mess with warranty. You will be out of warranty long before you ever need to pull the heads to clean valves. DI is not new,unproven tech it's been around for a long time maybe not in the GM world but other manufacturers have used it a good bit. There are engines in these trucks with well over 100k miles on them, still running just fine without ever having the valves cleaned. Running without catch cans or meth injection.

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I didn't start this thread to argue for my choice to do with my engine in my truck. I don't want a lot more power in my 6000lb truck or I would have already removed the engine and done a complete build on it. I build and tune motors every day.

 

I have done little to this truck as it's the only thing I don't have to fix, but I can't let it loose power and efficiency from a bad design. I just can't do it. I'm at 45000 miles and I've done other inductions system cleanings along the way yet I've noticed in the last 3000 miles it isn't in V4 as much and I've lost close to 1 MPG on my tanks. This is not a new mystery issue and all DI motors from every manufacturer has this issue, but one and it's because the do inject fuel in the intake just to keep the valves clean. Most people don't notice little things. Others I've seen at the races with a dead hole and didn't know. GM is likely betting on it will not go bad fast enough for 99% to notice and they know they will not have an issue within their extended warranty large enough to make them open up the motors so why not make more money.

 

http://www.stingrayforums.com/forum/stingray-corvette-discussions/14048-catch-can-confusion-2-print.html

 

 

 

The reason I started this thread was mostly hoping someone could help me with the MAF sensor part of this install. If someone else wants to do it I will put up pictures as well, but I will not be pulling it a part to confirm it works for at least 55000 miles unless the dealer has to open it up. Thanks for you help though.

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  • 4 weeks later...

Moving slow, but still doing this. I have the MIT intake tube now and I started making an adapter for the injector nozzle on the lathe tonight. They have a plastic adapter, but I didn't like the look of it. I've figured out the wiring. I can't easily get the connectors for the MAF (or weather station) since it's made by a small company and isn't Delphi. I plan to connect to it back in the harness so it's not noticeable. I'll power of the power block I installed and since the headlights come one when ever it's in gear I'll use that to switch a the power relay. I've got the two pieces of aluminum plate to build the main mount. I'll post pictures as things are finished, but I'm also trying to build my car so not always working on this install.

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  • 4 weeks later...

Got the intake modified and installed. Bracket is almost done, just one more tiny piece to add before powder coating. That will leave mounting and wiring kit. I have just got more Camaro parts in so it isn't getting much attention.

 

 

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Nice work bro! I had water meth injection on my Cummins turbo diesel. Prior to install I had 573rwhp. After I had 617. I did it more to keep exhaust temps in line but it does have cleaning capabilities. When that mist of water turns to steam it pressure cleans the combustion chamber and piston tops. I'm sure you already knew this though.

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On 2/22/2017 at 8:40 PM, Crf450r420 said:

Got the intake modified and installed. Bracket is almost done, just one more tiny piece to add before powder coating. That will leave mounting and wiring kit. I have just got more Camaro parts in so it isn't getting much attention.

 

 

20170111 140520

 

20170111 140550

Green wire is the map on the new weather station.
 

20170211 161746

 

20170211 161812

 

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20170212 171701

 

20170212 171727

 

20170212 174453

 

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20170218 182218

 

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can you send me a note please?

 

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