GM BRINGS AXLE PRODUCTION TO U.S.A

[Daryl Z71]

Parts can be made in high quality anywhere as long as the quality control for those parts have high standards.

[2018GMC]

^ what he said. But Bringing back American jobs is always a +

[mookdoc6]

My past three GM's whether assembled in Canada, USA or Mexico have reflected excellent quality control. Fit and finish has been excellent and combined have given me hundreds of thousands of smooth, worry free miles

 

Yup, Oshawa Gave me a Beauty! Silao Gave me a Beauty! D-Trak Gave me absolute garbage fit and finish....Only thing that saved me was a GM Powertrain.......

[15 Z71]

So if these trucks are being built in Mexico cheaper why is the price not coming down on them?

[wuznme]

So if these trucks are being built in Mexico cheaper why is the price not coming down on them?

 

 

Lol....Where do you think that 20% off on crew cabs come from..

[HondaHawkGT]

So if these trucks are being built in Mexico cheaper why is the price not coming down on them?

They're not moving the GM Silao truck plant back. The announcement was about GM making their own axles. Instead sourcing axles from American Axle (AAM), they're going to start making axles in-house, in the US. AAM was based in Michigan but moved to Silao, MX back around 2011 or 2012.

[pickmeup]

And more some days .

[KARNUT]

The important part people are missing is you keep taking jobs away from here who's going to buy the product? Can't buy anything if you don't have a job. The people who build them over wherever can't afford the product because of low pay. It's really that simple.

[Havvkeye]

So if these trucks are being built in Mexico cheaper why is the price not coming down on them?

 

They don't price products based on the cost of production. They price it at what the product will sell at (optimal value vs. quantity). They should floor the price at the cost of production but that is about the only part it plays in the market.

[Thomcat]

I have actually done "Quality testing/Inspection" in a FERD Plant in Mexico......Bringing the work back to USA is great does not make quality better. Silao is has it's pro's and con's for GM Logistically. Also, because the work comes back to USA does not necessarily mean it's going to be manufactured "IN House" Note: I have a 2016 GMC SLT known well in advance it was built in Mexico and there is not 1qty piece misaligned or incorrect. I am not kidding Nothing is observable to the eye as poor quality!

 

I am employed in Quality and have been.........The Quality of assembly in Mexico is TOP NOTCH! As for the components....well, USA workers can build em just as shitty as a Mexican worker can.......if not more so!

Hmmm....Quality of assembly, inspection and testing doesn't mean crap when comparing the same products from different manufacturing points if there is variability in local part sourcing. And poor quality is not always observable to the eye, or test equipment if incoming sampling is not designed to account for source variability.

 

Here's how it works. Any manufacturer with any credibility always sources the same part from multiple vendors, otherwise a fire at your one taillight or wiring harness manufacturer can shut down your assembly line indefinitely. Consequently, manufacturers use multiple suppliers located throughout the country, continent or world. Some parts for vehicles made in Detroit may be sourced by vendors closer to their location, and Silao similarly sourced by different vendors of the same part. If the specs for part acceptance are plus or minus 10% and one Mexican vendor supplies at the lower end of the spec while another US vendor at the higher end of the spec there may be a part variability of 20% between vendors.....couple this with an incoming electrical component testing of 2% on say relays where a visual inspection by Hawkeye is useless and you have greater infant mortality failure rates. Same goes for that snot they call sealant at the Silao plant that looks like it was broomed on the bed seams of my Mexican Avalanches instead of the finer application on my US Silverado.

 

If it ain't got a "1" or "2" as the first digit of the VIN it ain't for me.

[mookdoc6]

Hmmm....Quality of assembly, inspection and testing doesn't mean crap when comparing the same products from different manufacturing points if there is variability in local part sourcing. And poor quality is not always observable to the eye, or test equipment if incoming sampling is not designed to account for source variability.

 

Here's how it works. Any manufacturer with any credibility always sources the same part from multiple vendors, otherwise a fire at your one taillight or wiring harness manufacturer can shut down your assembly line indefinitely. Consequently, manufacturers use multiple suppliers located throughout the country, continent or world. Some parts for vehicles made in Detroit may be sourced by vendors closer to their location, and Silao similarly sourced by different vendors of the same part. If the specs for part acceptance are plus or minus 10% and one Mexican vendor supplies at the lower end of the spec while another US vendor at the higher end of the spec there may be a part variability of 20% between vendors.....couple this with an incoming electrical component testing of 2% on say relays where a visual inspection by Hawkeye is useless and you have greater infant mortality failure rates. Same goes for that snot they call sealant at the Silao plant that looks like it was broomed on the bed seams of my Mexican Avalanches instead of the finer application on my US Silverado.

 

If it ain't got a "1" or "2" as the first digit of the VIN it ain't for me.

 

 

 

 

Hmmm....Quality of assembly, inspection and testing doesn't mean crap when comparing the same products from different manufacturing points if there is variability in local part sourcing. And poor quality is not always observable to the eye, or test equipment if incoming sampling is not designed to account for source variability.

 

Here's how it works. Any manufacturer with any credibility always sources the same part from multiple vendors, otherwise a fire at your one taillight or wiring harness manufacturer can shut down your assembly line indefinitely. Consequently, manufacturers use multiple suppliers located throughout the country, continent or world. Some parts for vehicles made in Detroit may be sourced by vendors closer to their location, and Silao similarly sourced by different vendors of the same part. If the specs for part acceptance are plus or minus 10% and one Mexican vendor supplies at the lower end of the spec while another US vendor at the higher end of the spec there may be a part variability of 20% between vendors.....couple this with an incoming electrical component testing of 2% on say relays where a visual inspection by Hawkeye is useless and you have greater infant mortality failure rates. Same goes for that snot they call sealant at the Silao plant that looks like it was broomed on the bed seams of my Mexican Avalanches instead of the finer application on my US Silverado.

 

If it ain't got a "1" or "2" as the first digit of the VIN it ain't for me.

 

 

Hmmmm......We are all well aware of the part/component sourcing the major automobile suppliers make and have with it's suppliers. Look, I have been on Multi billion dollar projects and seemingly endless Manufacturing Facilities In the Western Hemisphere and even a few in the East. I am not going to develop your understanding that "Quality" has more variables than you likely understand.

 

I too was of thinking along with many other UAW workers decades ago that point of assembly/quality is most important. Like I said, "I got straight garbage out of some UAW assembly lines located in AMERICA over the years. This Sierra I bought knowing fully it's assembled in Silao with Mix of American made components is without question other than the stupid GM programming in my 8speed almost Perfect?

 

How could that be? It's a newer Auto plant with state of the art technology and "culture committed to Quality" It shows I cannot be the only one with this outcome? As a Former GM worker and many ties to GM I am extremely happy to know GM is manufacturing this quality in Mexico. A stronger financial GM is better for all and the quality of products so I would hope others are proud of that facility putting pension checks in their mail too?

 

I have countless stories for you to understand that Quality even with perfectly sourced parts/components end up as useless trash, reworked, retrofitted and deemed shitty quality time, and time again..........

 

[SandyNeck]

Making America Great Again! (one axle at a time) :-)

[j-ten-ner]

 

 

Our Mexicans are better than their Mexicans.lol

 

You've just made my day!

 

so long

j-ten-ner

[Likarok]

Well Trump is saying what is sold in USA should be built in USA!

[Thomcat]

Hopefully their driveshaft production goes with it. Feeds into what I was saying on sourcing. US Midwest production is likely to get sourced from AAM by their nearby 4 plants in the Midwest/Northeast while those in the Mexican Silverados are more likely to get one from their much closer Guanajuato Complex. They're not doing this just for laughs or just to make Trump happy.......might be they're trying to kill two birds with one stone.

 

More recent post here on problems with Mexican driveshafts...not out of balance, but out of round which can also create a nasty harmonic.....and reworking on a lathe allegedly stopped the shakes. If the QA program uses only balance for release criteria you get a bum driveshaft. Worth a read and a try if you have the shakes----

 

http://www.gm-trucks.com/forums/topic/192910-chevy-shake-fixed/