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#1 Silver04

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 01:27 PM

I just replaced my steering shaft part# 19153614. Did it my self took about 45 minutes and problem solved, no more cluck - $85 GM dealer - now my problem is that the service air bag stays on after starting the truck? The service air bag shows up in the LED area of the dashboard where the miles, trip meter and other misc. status would normally be. It does not have any codes - is their a reset – I have tried disconnected the battery – and some of the fuses. But no luck – anybody heard of this problem after changing out the intermediate steering shaft. Any help - thanks
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Posted 31 July 2007 - 04:26 PM

I just replaced my steering shaft part# 19153614. Did it my self took about 45 minutes and problem solved, no more cluck - $85 GM dealer - now my problem is that the service air bag stays on after starting the truck? The service air bag shows up in the LED area of the dashboard where the miles, trip meter and other misc. status would normally be. It does not have any codes - is their a reset – I have tried disconnected the battery – and some of the fuses. But no luck – anybody heard of this problem after changing out the intermediate steering shaft. Any help - thanks


Did you happen to spin your wheel when you had the shaft removed ?
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Posted 31 July 2007 - 06:22 PM

I just replaced my steering shaft part# 19153614. Did it my self took about 45 minutes and problem solved, no more cluck - $85 GM dealer - now my problem is that the service air bag stays on after starting the truck? The service air bag shows up in the LED area of the dashboard where the miles, trip meter and other misc. status would normally be. It does not have any codes - is their a reset – I have tried disconnected the battery – and some of the fuses. But no luck – anybody heard of this problem after changing out the intermediate steering shaft. Any help - thanks


Did you happen to spin your wheel when you had the shaft removed ?


well - i know it didnt turn it all the way around - but yes it move from maybe 12:00 to 3:00/9:00 o'clock ?

can it be reset ?

Thanks
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Posted 31 July 2007 - 07:09 PM

I just replaced my steering shaft part# 19153614. Did it my self took about 45 minutes and problem solved, no more cluck - $85 GM dealer - now my problem is that the service air bag stays on after starting the truck? The service air bag shows up in the LED area of the dashboard where the miles, trip meter and other misc. status would normally be. It does not have any codes - is their a reset – I have tried disconnected the battery – and some of the fuses. But no luck – anybody heard of this problem after changing out the intermediate steering shaft. Any help - thanks


Did you happen to spin your wheel when you had the shaft removed ?


well - i know it didnt turn it all the way around - but yes it move from maybe 12:00 to 3:00/9:00 o'clock ?

can it be reset ?

Thanks


I wouldn't think that would be enough, but I've heard of the clock spring in the steering wheel will be damaged if the wheel spins while the shaft is removed. I'm sure someone with more knowledge on that will post soon. Does your horn still work ?
This info might be of help :

A clock spring isn’t related to the clock and it doesn’t have spring in it. However, it is found on every single vehicle, both import and domestic, produced since 1994. Dorman Products offers the following instructional pointers for technicians servicing clock springs.

What Is a Clock Spring?
- An electronic component that transfers electrical current from the steering column to the steering wheel. This allows the operation of steering wheel-mounted accessories while the steering wheel is being turned.
- Steering wheel-mounted accessories such as the air bag, remote radio or cruise controls and horn are wired through the clock spring.

How Do They Fail?
- General Wear and Tear: After repeatedly turning the wheel, the wires inside the clock spring can break or disconnect.
- Collision: It is recommended to replace the clock spring after the airbag is deployed.
- Service Technician Error: The part will fail if during a rack and pinion or CV joint replacement job, the steering wheel isn’t tied down and the service technician turns the front wheels past the stopping point.

What Indicates Failure?
- Steering wheel-mounted accessories will stop working as soon as the wire separates. In the case of the airbag, a dash-mounted warning light illuminates. Basically, the clock spring diagnoses and sells itself.

Is this Repair Difficult and is the Independent Repair Shop Performing this Repair Today?
- Repair shops are currently replacing clock springs today. The replacement is fairly straightforward using common hand tools and a steering wheel puller.
- The book time for replacement is 0.7 hrs. The actual job can be completed in about 30 minutes.

A Clock Spring Can Be Replaced in 10 Easy Steps
1. Remove the negative battery cable – Allow 2-3 minutes for the reserve current to bleed down before removing the air bag.
2. Remove the steering column trim cover.
3. Remove the air bag mounting bolts.
4. Disconnect the wiring harness from the air bag module.
5. Remove the air bag.
6. Remove the center nut from the steering column.
7. Remove the steering wheel dampener.
8. Using a steering wheel puller, remove the steering wheel.
9. Remove the clock spring attaching hardware and wiring harness.
10. Remove the clock spring.

Edited by icecoldtexan, 31 July 2007 - 07:16 PM.

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 07:43 PM

I just replaced my steering shaft part# 19153614. Did it my self took about 45 minutes and problem solved, no more cluck - $85 GM dealer - now my problem is that the service air bag stays on after starting the truck? The service air bag shows up in the LED area of the dashboard where the miles, trip meter and other misc. status would normally be. It does not have any codes - is their a reset – I have tried disconnected the battery – and some of the fuses. But no luck – anybody heard of this problem after changing out the intermediate steering shaft. Any help - thanks


Did you happen to spin your wheel when you had the shaft removed ?


well - i know it didnt turn it all the way around - but yes it move from maybe 12:00 to 3:00/9:00 o'clock ?

can it be reset ?

Thanks


I wouldn't think that would be enough, but I've heard of the clock spring in the steering wheel will be damaged if the wheel spins while the shaft is removed. I'm sure someone with more knowledge on that will post soon. Does your horn still work ?
This info might be of help :

A clock spring isn’t related to the clock and it doesn’t have spring in it. However, it is found on every single vehicle, both import and domestic, produced since 1994. Dorman Products offers the following instructional pointers for technicians servicing clock springs.

What Is a Clock Spring?
- An electronic component that transfers electrical current from the steering column to the steering wheel. This allows the operation of steering wheel-mounted accessories while the steering wheel is being turned.
- Steering wheel-mounted accessories such as the air bag, remote radio or cruise controls and horn are wired through the clock spring.

How Do They Fail?
- General Wear and Tear: After repeatedly turning the wheel, the wires inside the clock spring can break or disconnect.
- Collision: It is recommended to replace the clock spring after the airbag is deployed.
- Service Technician Error: The part will fail if during a rack and pinion or CV joint replacement job, the steering wheel isn’t tied down and the service technician turns the front wheels past the stopping point.

What Indicates Failure?
- Steering wheel-mounted accessories will stop working as soon as the wire separates. In the case of the airbag, a dash-mounted warning light illuminates. Basically, the clock spring diagnoses and sells itself.

Is this Repair Difficult and is the Independent Repair Shop Performing this Repair Today?
- Repair shops are currently replacing clock springs today. The replacement is fairly straightforward using common hand tools and a steering wheel puller.
- The book time for replacement is 0.7 hrs. The actual job can be completed in about 30 minutes.

A Clock Spring Can Be Replaced in 10 Easy Steps
1. Remove the negative battery cable – Allow 2-3 minutes for the reserve current to bleed down before removing the air bag.
2. Remove the steering column trim cover.
3. Remove the air bag mounting bolts.
4. Disconnect the wiring harness from the air bag module.
5. Remove the air bag.
6. Remove the center nut from the steering column.
7. Remove the steering wheel dampener.
8. Using a steering wheel puller, remove the steering wheel.
9. Remove the clock spring attaching hardware and wiring harness.
10. Remove the clock spring.


ok - I have controls on my steering wheel - like radio controls, trip meter, ect that control items on the truck - and they are not working, they stopped working after i installed the shaft - the horn works ?
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Posted 05 August 2007 - 07:55 PM

You broke the clockspring.

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Posted 05 August 2007 - 09:33 PM

You broke the clockspring.



Agreed 100%

Take it to the dealer and take your lumps.
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#8 Silver04

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Posted 05 August 2007 - 09:36 PM

You broke the clockspring.

is it a easy fix do i need any speical tools ? thanks -i read the above - does not seem to bad.
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#9 Silver04

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Posted 10 August 2007 - 12:23 PM

You broke the clockspring.

is it a easy fix do i need any speical tools ? thanks -i read the above - does not seem to bad.



Thanks to all for the input - will have the clock spring checked out-
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Posted 14 September 2007 - 02:56 PM

I had the same problem on my 03 after the steering shaft change. Took it to the dealer and they said it was the coil. But for $350 it still reads it on the dash. Please let me know how you made out with yours.




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