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#1 star2323

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Posted 28 January 2008 - 10:14 PM

Hello,

My service engine light came on so I had it scanned the following code was found: PO332 - Knock Sensor 2 Circuit Low Input (Bank 2).

How do I fix this? Do I need to take it to the dealer to do or can I do it myself? What parts do I need?

The truck is a 2003 Silverado with 8.1 V8 and Allison tranny. It seems to run fine.

Thank you

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Posted 31 January 2008 - 08:37 AM

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Posted 31 January 2008 - 09:20 AM

Everybody??



it has to be diagnosed,not just throw parts at it,take it to a dealer or a backyard corner hack,see I'm not pro dealer to badly!
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Posted 31 January 2008 - 10:15 AM

Have fun.

DTC P0327 or P0332
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Circuit Description
The knock sensors (KS) produce an AC signal when specific frequencies are detected. When the engine operates, the powertrain control module (PCM) learns a minimum and maximum frequency of noise of normal engine operation. The KS system monitors both knock sensors in order to determine if knock is present. If the KS system determines that excessive knock is present, the PCM retards the spark timing based on the signals from the KS system. The PCM then retards the timing until no knock is present. When the PCM detects a frequency that is less than or more than a defined range, DTC P0327 will set for a failure in KS 1 which is located on bank 1 on the drivers side of the engine or DTC P0332 will set for a failure in KS 2 which is located on bank 2 on the passenger side of the engine.

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Conditions for Running the DTC

DTCs P0106, P0107, P0108, P0116, P0117, P0118, P0125, P1114, or P1115 are not set.

The engine speed is between 1,600-3,000 RPM.

The manifold absolute pressure (MAP) is less than 45 kPa.

The engine coolant temperature (ECT) is more than 60C (140F).

The engine run time is more than 20 seconds.

The ignition more than 10 volts.

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Conditions for Setting the DTC
The PCM determines that this frequency is less than or more than the expected amount for 3 seconds or more.

<A href="http://service.gm.co...sm#ss1-727820">
Action Taken When the DTC Sets
  • The control module illuminates the malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) on the second consecutive ignition cycle that the diagnostic runs and fails.
  • The control module records the operating conditions at the time the diagnostic fails. The first time the diagnostic fails, the control module stores this information in the Failure Records. If the diagnostic reports a failure on the second consecutive ignition cycle, the control module records the operating conditions at the time of the failure. The control module writes the operating conditions to the Freeze Frame and updates the Failure Records.
<A href="http://service.gm.co...sm#ss1-727824">
Conditions for Clearing the MIL/DTC

The control module turns OFF the malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) after 3 consecutive ignition cycles that the diagnostic runs and does not fail.

A current DTC, Last Test Failed, clears when the diagnostic runs and passes.

A history DTC clears after 40 consecutive warm-up cycles, if no failures are reported by this or any other emission related diagnostic.

Clear the MIL and the DTC with a scan tool.

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Diagnostic Aids
Inspect the KS for proper installation. A KS that is loose or over torqued may cause either DTC to set.

For an intermittent, refer to Intermittent Conditions .

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Test Description
The numbers below refer to the step numbers on the diagnostic table.
  • <LI value=2>This step verifies the malfunction is present.

    <A name=TD03><LI value=3>This test will isolate the KS from the rest of the circuit.

    <A name=TD04>
  • Tapping on the engine block near the appropriate KS will simulate an engine knock.
Step

Action

Values

Yes

No

Schematic Reference: Engine Controls Schematics

Connector End View Reference: Powertrain Control Module (PCM) Connector End Views
or Engine Controls Connector End Views

1

Did you perform the Diagnostic System Check-Engine Controls?

--

Go to Step 2

Go to Diagnostic System Check - Engine Controls

2

Important: If an engine knock can be heard, repair the engine mechanical condition before proceeding with this diagnostic.

  • <LI type=1>Observe the Freeze Frame/Failure Records data for this DTC. <LI type=1>Turn OFF the ignition for 30 seconds. <LI type=1>Start the engine.
  • Operate the engine within the Conditions for Running the DTC as close to the Freeze Frame/Failure Records data that you observed.
Does the scan tool indicate that this diagnostic failed this ignition?

--

Go to Step 3

Go to Diagnostic Aids

3

  • <LI type=1>Turn the ignition OFF. <LI type=1>Disconnect the KS harness of the appropriate KS. <LI type=1>Set the DMM to the 400 K ohm scale.
  • Measure the resistance of the appropriate KS with a DMM connected to battery ground.
Is the resistance of the KS within the specified range?

93-107K ohms

Go to Step 4

Go to Step 6

4

  • <LI type=1>Set the DMM to the 400 mv AC hertz scale. Refer to Measuring Frequency in Wiring Systems. Important: Do not tap on plastic engine components.

  • Tap on the engine block near the appropriate KS while observing the signal indicated on the DMM.
Is any signal indicated on the DMM while tapping on the engine block near the knock sensor?

--

Go to Step 5

Go to Step 6

5
  • <LI type=1>Disconnect the PCM connector. Refer to Powertrain Control Module (PCM) Replacement .
  • Test the KS signal circuit between the PCM and the KS connector for the following:

    - An open

    - A short to voltage

    - A short to ground

Refer to Circuit Testing in Wiring Systems.

Did you find and correct the condition?

--

Go to Step 9

Go to Step 7

6

Replace the KS. Refer to Knock Sensor (KS) 1 Replacement or Knock Sensor (KS) 2 Replacement .

Did you complete the replacement?

--

Go to Step 9

--

7
Did you find and correct the condition?

--

Go to Step 9

Go to Step 8

8

Replace the PCM. Refer to Powertrain Control Module (PCM) Replacement .

Did you complete the replacement?

--

Go to Step 9

--

9
  • <LI type=1>Clear the DTCs with a scan tool. <LI type=1>Turn OFF the ignition for 30 seconds. <LI type=1>Start the engine.
  • Operate the vehicle within the Conditions for Running the DTC as specified in the supporting text.
Does the DTC run and pass?

--

Go to Step 10

Go to Step 2

10

With a scan tool, observe the stored information, Capture Info.

Does the scan tool display any DTCs that you have not diagnosed?

--

Go to Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) List

System OK

Document ID# 793439
2003 Chevrolet Chevy C Silverado - 2WD

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#5 star2323

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Posted 31 January 2008 - 10:31 AM

Holy crap. Sounds complicated. Are those instructions from an actual GM mechanic?

I talked to somebody who thought it might have a bad ignition coil is that possible?

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Posted 31 January 2008 - 11:13 AM

That is a gm flow chart for that code. That code is not very common on a 8.1, but if you perform that flow chart correctly you will find the problem.
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Posted 31 January 2008 - 06:47 PM

It's not that complicated, you need to be concerned with this part

Measure the resistance of the appropriate KS with a DMM connected to battery ground.
Is the resistance of the KS within the specified range?

93-107K ohms

If it is the sensor is good and you need to look further if it's out of that range then the sensor is bad.
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Posted 31 January 2008 - 06:58 PM

Do the links provide more details ? Or is all the information pasted into the post?

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Posted 01 February 2008 - 12:07 AM

GMTRUCKTECH copied and pasted a flow chart but it's not easy to make them look like they look on the GM site. Those links just take you to the step they refer to on the same page. step 10 will take you to step 10 on this chart.

DTC P0327 or P0332

Circuit Description
The knock sensors (KS) produce an AC signal when specific frequencies are detected. When the engine operates, the powertrain control module (PCM) learns a minimum and maximum frequency of noise of normal engine operation. The KS system monitors both knock sensors in order to determine if knock is present. If the KS system determines that excessive knock is present, the PCM retards the spark timing based on the signals from the KS system. The PCM then retards the timing until no knock is present. When the PCM detects a frequency that is less than or more than a defined range, DTC P0327 will set for a failure in KS 1 which is located on bank 1 on the drivers side of the engine or DTC P0332 will set for a failure in KS 2 which is located on bank 2 on the passenger side of the engine.


Conditions for Running the DTC

DTCs P0106, P0107, P0108, P0116, P0117, P0118, P0125, P1114, or P1115 are not set.
The engine speed is between 1,600-3,000 RPM.
The manifold absolute pressure (MAP) is less than 45 kPa.
The engine coolant temperature (ECT) is more than 60C (140F).
The engine run time is more than 20 seconds.
The ignition more than 10 volts.

Conditions for Setting the DTC
The PCM determines that this frequency is less than or more than the expected amount for 3 seconds or more.


Action Taken When the DTC Sets
The control module illuminates the malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) on the second consecutive ignition cycle that the diagnostic runs and fails.
The control module records the operating conditions at the time the diagnostic fails. The first time the diagnostic fails, the control module stores this information in the Failure Records. If the diagnostic reports a failure on the second consecutive ignition cycle, the control module records the operating conditions at the time of the failure. The control module writes the operating conditions to the Freeze Frame and updates the Failure Records.

Conditions for Clearing the MIL/DTC

The control module turns OFF the malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) after 3 consecutive ignition cycles that the diagnostic runs and does not fail.
A current DTC, Last Test Failed, clears when the diagnostic runs and passes.
A history DTC clears after 40 consecutive warm-up cycles, if no failures are reported by this or any other emission related diagnostic.
Clear the MIL and the DTC with a scan tool.

Diagnostic Aids
Inspect the KS for proper installation. A KS that is loose or over torqued may cause either DTC to set.

For an intermittent, refer to Intermittent Conditions .


Test Description
The numbers below refer to the step numbers on the diagnostic table.

1.This step verifies the malfunction is present.

2.This test will isolate the KS from the rest of the circuit.

3. Tapping on the engine block near the appropriate KS will simulate an engine knock.
Step

________________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________________
____________


________________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________________
___________
1 Did you perform the Diagnostic System Check-Engine Controls? go to step 2 Go to Diagnostic System Check - Engine Controls

________________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________________
_____________2 Important: If an engine knock can be heard, repair the engine mechanical condition before proceeding with this diagnostic. Go to Step 3 Go to Diagnostic Aids

condition before proceeding with this diagnostic.
Observe the Freeze Frame/Failure Records data for this DTC. Turn OFF the ignition for 30 seconds. Start the engine.
Operate the engine within the Conditions for Running the DTC as close to the Freeze Frame/Failure Records data that you observed.
Does the scan tool indicate that this diagnostic failed this ignition?
________________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________________
_____________

3 Turn the ignition OFF. Disconnect the KS harness of the appropriate KS. Set the DMM to the 400 K ohm scale. Go to Step 4 Go to Step 6
Measure the resistance of the appropriate KS with a DMM connected to battery ground.
Is the resistance of the KS within the specified range?

93-107K ohms

________________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________________
_____________
4. Set the DMM to the 400 mv AC hertz scale. Refer to Measuring Frequency in Wiring Systems. Important: Do not tap on plastic engine components. Go to Step 5 Go to Step 6
Tap on the engine block near the appropriate KS while observing the signal indicated on the DMM.
Is any signal indicated on the DMM while tapping on the engine block near the knock sensor?

________________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________________
_____________


and so on if you are following what I'm doing here. Take my advice and check the resistance of the sensor first. These charts notoriously take the long way. Anyone with a chart can probably figure out half of whats going on but experience saves time and cuts out or rearranges some of the steps. That and you do not have the equipment half of the steps refer to so it doesn't make sense to pay any attention to them till you absolutly need to get those values at which point you would need someone that had the equipment.
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Posted 01 February 2008 - 12:08 AM

well the chart still doesn't look anything like the real deal once posted. forget the links
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Posted 01 February 2008 - 08:01 AM

That is what I was thinking. Thanks.