My one real complaint so far, a creaking driver's seat. I'm a big dude, 6'3" and 260 lb, but not THAT big. Never had a driver's seat creak on me before. Anybody else have this issue? Particularly when going around turns, or whenever weight is shifting around. Not a serious issue, but definitely an annoyance. Don't want to go poking around near airbags, but just wondering if anybody else has noticed this or had similar issues, and if there's a way to resolve it either via DIY or dealership/warranty? Thanks
Yeah that seems to be the one complaint about the Premier LTX is that they don't last as long as they should. Any big difference in wet/dry/snow handling between the Premier and the Defender? What about ride/noise and MPG?
2018 Suburban purchased Nov 2018 (so probably a late MY2018 build). Not on the recall list.I have adaptive cruise and the forward collision warning / auto braking stuff, if that matters.
My guess is either you have to be somebody or know somebody to get those deals, otherwise they're like piss off. If you can show up and say, "hi, I'm Matt Farah's dad of The Smoking Tire," I'm guessing that's good enough.
ROFL ROFL!!! True story. When I was buying my 2018 Suburban, I had heard via "The Smoking Tire" (Matt Farah) that you could get crazy good deals on tons of leftover 2017 Escalades. I forget what the discounts were, but Matt had said his dad had picked one up somewhere in the northeast for like $30-40k off. Escalades aren't really my thing, but I looked around locally, and sure enough there were TONS of 2017 Escalades leftover, even with new 2019's arriving and sitting on the lot, so I tried to see what I could get off. One dealership had a bunch of 2017's that they were selling with 4600 miles or so that were SERVICE LOANERS, and even on those they refused to budge and go any lower than about 15% off, which was freaking ridiculous. I was like, you have NEW 2019's coming in, NEW 2018's leftover, and you want to try to sell me a technically USED 2017 for the same price as I could get on a 2018/2019 with ZERO miles? I laughed and hung up.
That rendering looks really nice, but yeah, eeww on the 3.6L V6. If they have the 5.3 and 6.2 engines in the lineup also, then I assume the 3.6L V6 would be naturally aspirated, and a cut-rate base engine on LS or LT spec? Umm, no thanks, but I guess with some weight savings and the right gearing it could work just fine for some. Have had my 2018 with the 5.3L fully loaded with 5 pax plus a dog and a crap ton of luggage and dog stuff, and it still has more than enough pep and passing power when needed with the 3.42 gearing. Have not driven the previous generation Burb, but yeah, the 2015+ with the 5.3L and standard 3.08 gearing definitely felt sluggish to me, to the extent that it wasn't in the running.
I think the 20's look just fine on most Suburbans. I don't even think that the 18's look bad on the LT's, but 20" is definitely ideal I think and suits the vehicle well. If you're talking about a Denali or an Escalade you really "need" the 22's, though. Those just don't look complete without them. I think most of the 22" OEM wheel styles look pretty nice, and there's a lot of them! I had actually intended to buy a Burb with 20" wheels, but the one I wanted had been sold the day before. The one I got was identical, just had 22" wheels and the added anti-theft package that I wanted anyways, so bought it. Ride was definitely not ideal with the factory Bridgestones. It was definitely on the harsh side, but acceptable to all. I just swapped them out for Michelin Premier LTX not because of ride complaints but because of durability concerns on the Bridgestones. The ride is WAY better, like 75% better, with the Michelins vs Bridgestone. No more mild but annoying highway buffeting at the few speeds the Bridgestones did it at (63 and 66 mph), and much improved low speed "body booming" over bumps too. Definitely worth the upgrade. So if you have 22" wheels and aren't happy with the ride, definitely get a set of the Michelins. Roads are pretty well maintained where I live, but if I lived in NYC or Michigan where some of the roads are downright awful and not maintained well at all, I'd never get the 22's even with the Michelins. 20" tops. Sometimes you need the extra sidewall! Edit: Saw a few Yukon XL's today with the 18" wheels and I think they look fine, just base.
Not seeing it on the Suburban, but wow, yeah, I do see the Yukon XL SLT trim option for the 6.2L 10-speed, and it has Magnetic Ride too. Any time I try to select the 3.42 axle ratio as either part of the Max Tow package or standalone, it deletes out all of the 6.2L V8 package stuff and drops you down to the 5.3L and 6-speed. The base MSRP of the Yukon XL SLT 6.2L is $65 more than the Denali, though. LOL. Not sure what that's about. Might actually be an online configurator issue, and not a real config. You can still only get Magnetic Ride with the 6.2L on the Yukon. The 5.3L SLT only comes with Premium Ride suspension. We love our Mag Ride.
No, the adaptive cruise isn't perfect, but I love it. This is the one thing I wished that I had gotten in our old custom ordered 2012 BMW X5d, but didn't. So the adaptive cruise was a must have this time around. You have to play with the different distance settings I think. It brakes too late and tries to speed up way too aggressively when set to near. It seems to do much better on medium. When set to far, it's slowing down when a car is like a ridiculous distance away, so don't really use that much. I used the adaptive today on I-64 coming back from Virginia Beach and heading towards Richmond. Between Williamsburg and Richmond, it's one of those two lane stretches of highway where you're constantly on and off the brakes due to a lot of on and off-ramps and only two lanes. This used to drive me insane without adaptive cruise. It really helps reduce driver fatigue with it. It's only looking at the car in front of you though. If the 5th car in front of you gets on their brakes, and then the 4th, and then the 3rd, you need to start getting on the brakes yourself because people tend to follow way too close. If you're waiting for the adaptive to do its thing and haven't gotten on your brakes by the time the car right in front of you is finally getting on their brakes, that's precisely how multi-car pile ups happen, which we did see on I-95 in Virginia today! LOL! Drove past a good 7-8 car pile-up precisely from this sort of situation. Also saw a crashed Tesla, that I think hit a freaking motorcyclist! I let the adaptive do its thing, and it worked well, but it was definitely late on the braking once when set to medium, so switched it off. Again, it can only see what the car in front of you is doing, and not multiple vehicles ahead. It's a great tool to reduce driver fatigue. Gotta keep paying attention and maintain situational awareness at all times, though.
LOL on the "fix!" Umm yeah, what you just said though! Reminds me of when our lives were a bit more simple. Now it's two much bigger kids, plus a disabled adult, plus a dog, and at times plus 1 or 2 more in-laws or who knows what! Beach trip: All the luggage you'd need for a week long trip for 5 pax, plus a dog crate, folding dog fence and other dog stuff, boogie boards, 10x10' Coleman tent, beach chairs, beach toys, bedding for the AirBnB and some extra pillows, and misc food and drink items. My wife swore up and down that we'd NEVER need anything as big as a Suburban and that I was crazy for getting one. Well.... We did totally overpack. Turns out the AirBnB was pretty well stocked for family beach vacations, but you never know, and if we hadn't brought our stuff they wouldn't have had it! On the way back I managed to pack a bit more efficiently, and was able to keep the two-thirds section of 3rd row open and just the one-third side folded down for cargo, so that my youngest wouldn't be land-locked into the back corner. Love the rear air suspension. Lost count of the number of minivans and especially Nissan/Infiniti QX60's with bottomed out rear suspensions. Got 24 mpg straight highway, which is pretty amazing, and 21 mpg overall including local driving and numerous highway delays, and one WOT pass from 70-90 around a total moron in a Benz GLE clogging up the left lane. This is actually similar to my old Toyota RAV4 V6 despite having double the space! It doesn't beat our turbodiesel X5 which would get 25-26 mpg overall, but damn, it sure beats taking two cars. Plus it's super quiet, the factory tint does a good job of keeping the heat out of the car, and the air-conditioning is the best I've ever had in a vehicle, powerful and quiet. Commanding view of the road is a plus too. Can see what's happening ahead much more easily, so fewer surprises on sudden slow downs, and can plan ahead more easily also. My wife was impressed that I was able to shave 10-20 minutes off of our ETA vs the Waze app just by optimal lane selection and timing. It's definitely a luxury liner for the roads. Going DC to Florida and back over Christmas, and looking forward to it.
That's definitely a part of it too!
Never said I was expecting the Bridgestones to be puncture "proof", nor am I claiming the Michelins are. I also never said I "curbed" the tires a few times. Lightly hopping a curb on a sharp right is practically inevitable in these things, which happened lightly "once or twice", and is far different from "curbing" the tires as in slamming them into a curb. That never happened. The bubble in the right rear at 9000 miles was ridiculous, and all other factors being equal, I'm guessing the Michelins will have better puncture resistance than the Bridgestones. Anyways, we're just back from a nearly 1,000 beach road trip. The Michelins are fantastic. Much smoother riding than the Bridgestones, no noise or vibration whatsoever on the highway, and zero impact on fuel economy. I got the same 23.5 mpg straight highway as the Bridgestones, so pretty pleased so far.
Well whatever. I've never had worse luck with tire durability and puncture resistance than I have with Bridgestone tires across multiple vehicles. I think all the tire manufacturers lie about tread depth new. Both the 2k mile Bridgestone and the Michelin are at about 8-9/32nds. Big difference in overall ride quality with the Michelins, so they're worth it.
I rented a 2018 "Suburban or equivalent" before buying one, which turned out to be the brand spanking new Ford Expedition Max. Totally unimpressed. There was so much body roll that it felt like it was going to tip over in turns. To be fair it was base suspension, but even a rental Suburban LT I drove with standard suspension felt more hooked up. Despite the impressive interior accommodations for 7-8 passengers and the sliding 2nd row seat, we were all shocked to see that there was only enough cargo space behind the 3rd row for about 5 people worth of luggage, if even that. My wife's 2012 BMW X5 that we were trading seriously had more cargo space. It wasn't even close. I couldn't believe it. The Suburban's cargo space is far superior, and nobody has complained about lack of space in any row, so the overall floorplan is much better with the GM's. The 3.5L EcoBoost had power, but it sounded terrible and had the personality of a blender. The 10-speed automatic seems great on paper, but in reality it skip shifts most of the time, but occasionally click-click-clicks through them one at a time, and jerking you in your seat a little on each one. Annoying. It just seemed over-engineered and kinda pointless compared to a solid 6 or 8-speed automatic. I would take the GM 10-speed (same thing) over their clunky 8-speed, but no complaints with the 6L80 in my Suburban. Seen virtually ZERO of these new Fords or Lincolns on the road in the DC area. As nice as they look inside and out, it seems people are sticking with the GM's. If you need something this big, you need it to work for a larger number of people. I don't understand why Ford would design a large SUV that can seat 7-8 passengers, but barely even has enough luggage room for 5. Makes no sense, but I guess that's why they're advertising external cargo carriers right in their brochures. Then it begs the question, why would you want to get a huge SUV like this that still needs an external cargo carrier? And what parking garage would they even fit in with one attached (none)? LOL Anyways, we were all pretty shocked that a brand spanking new Ford large SUV would be so poorly thought out, to the point of numerous deal breakers. I mean, I could barely make a Costco run without folding down the 3rd row in the Ford Expedition "Max". WTF???? Had our 2018 Suburban for 10 months now and love it. Loading it up for the beach for a week, 5 pax plus a dog and we'll have plenty of space.
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