Foghorn17

Based on youtube videos of the first trucks hitting the lots, it is 0W-20 for the new trucks at least the 5.3 & 6.2.

Don't mean to hijack the thread, but on a related note. I've only seen this with white GM vehicles. Are any other colors affected? Also, about a week ago I saw an F-150 of the 09-14 style that was silver and was doing the same thing. Since the OEM's use many of the same suppliers just wondering. Is it a paint issue, primer issue, or a combination of both? I am leaning toward a lighter color for my next truck, but not if this problem exists. I know years ago there were lots of paint problems on American vehicles. My dad had a charcoal gray 88 Ford F-150. The whole cab roof and hood flaked and pealed within a couple years. To Ford's credit they agreed to strip the old paint, prime and repaint the entire truck for $50 out of pocket to my dad. Needless to say Dad jumped on that offer. Truck was repainted and never had any issues.

You will occasionally see someone comment on this board about AFM on the 14+ model trucks, but for the most part there's very little discussion about AFM issues on the newer trucks. Lot's of discussion on the last generation of trucks, so I conclude GM must have more or less solved their AFM issues. The AFM has been a non-issue on my 14 Silverado and now my 17 GMC, but admittedly they were/are low mileage. As stated AFM can be disabled with something like the Range plug in unit. Range AFM disabler Or better yet you can wait for the 19's and their dynamic fuel management. Wonder how reliability will be with that setup?

Maybe uninstall the android auto app on your phone and re-install? Just my $0.02. Good luck

As an android user (no this isn't going to be an android vs apple post) the absolute best part with my android auto, and soon to be apple carplay is the ability to use waze for navigation. My favorite integration by far. My son has an iphone 8 and his car has carplay. Glad he'll be getting Waze for his in car display as he heads off to college.

I've had them before as well. No issues with moisture. As stated they are a tight fit.

OP you did right by leaving. Dealer doesn't respect me I walk. When they call, and they will, they need to hear it again and tell them you are already working with _____________________- dealer. True or not true it's what they need to hear. When you do find that dealer that respects you as a customer stick with them. I don't play games. I tell them up front and if they start I'm out of there. Plenty of dealers in my neck of the woods.

First, I totally agree the oil seems to wick up the dipstick on these trucks. Even after sitting for a while. Secondly, I usually check the oil while truck is in garage totally level and after sitting all night; most reliable measurement comes this way IMO. Finally, as one of the lucky ones who had the HPFP issue, if you have this issue you won't have to guess about it. It will be extremely obvious that something is wrong. My oil level was consistently in the twisted part of the dipstick and the oil fill cap smelled more like a gas cap (if these trucks had one) than a gas cap. Oil level is now steady and on full. Almost 4k on the engine and oil since my HPFP fix; no ill effects to report.

Local dealer got a Bighorn 4x4 off the hauler weekend before last. Truck was parked unlocked. So I had a look around. For a middle trim package, the interior was gorgeous. Minus the cloth seats it was nicer than my current Denali in many ways. Materials seemed a cut above what I'd expect on that trim. Displays, switch gear, door trims panels, etc. I like the look, but every time I consider an FCA product that nagging gut wondering about quality always shows up. i could probably do an F150 as they have had a few years to figure out their truck, but I believe I'll let the early adopters figure out if FCA can build a quality product before I jump on board. I'm worried as well about the new GM trucks, lots of changes with lots of potential for early quality gremlins. I'll be sitting back watching for a while.

I am a GM truck guy and have basically been loyal to GM since my first Silverado in 1999. However, one can easily see they are making these new trucks more SUV/crossover like. For the first time in almost two decades I may look seriously at a Ford, or even the Ram when my lease is up in 2020. I'm hoping after the first year of the new body style that true truck guys may take back the helm at GM. Otherwise, I may be moving on. If I want a single speed transfer case I'll look at a crossover. Pathetic.

Not to hijack, but good to hear your issue with the HPFP was fixed and seems to be holding. Same here after my HPFP was replaced. The oil level seems normal and no gasoline smell. Mines a lease so if there's any engine damage it will be on GM's dime under warranty, or the truck will be long gone. Doesn't make sense how this happens to such a new vehicle. It must have been a supplier issue.

http://www.wixfilters.com/assets/TechBulletins/WIX/57060 57045 GM Update English.pdf

If I'm not misunderstanding the data, a lower number is better. So with the cars you mentioned, Chevy has better scores. Beats me because I agree with your assessment of some of the Chevy cars. So how do they have 32 less problems per 100 vehicles?

So that would mean that Chevy cars are astronomically better than the trucks and suv's. They'd have to be to pull up the scores. But that goes against everything you hear about GM. They build great trucks and suv's, but their cars are meh. Not trying to argue, and your explanation makes sense, but just doesn't fit my perception. Guess that's why it's called perception, huh?

I partially agree; if i were driving a Kia, I might attribute it to just being an econo-brand and shrug off problems. But what about the brands from FCA or from Ford? They don't have the super luxury high expectations of quality, and apparently they live up to their expectations. Toyota is supposed to be the quality standard, at least among the mass producers, yet they are below Chevy. Also when I bought my GMC this time, I really wasn't expecting that much different regarding quality as compared to my previous Chevies. It's like a 20% difference in measured quality according to the data.