Torqstorm Supercharger

Yonah_Mtn · June 19, 2018

When air is compressed it gets hot. Any turbo or supercharger compresses air and hotter air makes less power than cooler air. The reason, colder or cooler air is denser.

FYI: http://www.superchargersonline.com/index.php?main_page=page&id=13

Cooler charge air adds more power, comma period. Do you need the extra HP an intercooler provides is another question.

Although I worked in the forced induction sector for 11 years; I have no dyno test information that states an intercooler adds X HP over no intercooler. Simply because it was the customer's choice; not my employer's.

KARNUT · June 19, 2018

I can see it. You're right. But you just cant boost to high or hotlap the bitch

12Lbs is it, I usually use a 5 lb pulley. Sometimes in the winter I’ll put on the small pulley. I’m older now so basically I’m happy with the knowing not so much the going.

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Nasty · June 19, 2018

4 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

12Lbs is it, I usually use a 5 lb pulley. Sometimes in the winter I’ll put on the small pulley. I’m older now so basically I’m happy with the knowing not so much the going.

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12psi is a lot for a suoercharger.

Stock for procharger is 7. Maggie and whipple is 6ish. And turbo guys usually run 8 9 psi

KARNUT · June 19, 2018

12psi is a lot for a suoercharger.

Stock for procharger is 7. Maggie and whipple is 6ish. And turbo guys usually run 8 9 psi

The previous owner had the engine pro built in Houston. It’s stroked, aluminum heads, MSD ignition, 3 inch exhaust. I run the bigger pulley and added more mufflers just so I would behave.

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Nasty · June 19, 2018

1 minute ago, KARNUT said:

The previous owner had the engine pro built in Houston. It’s stroked, aluminum heads, MSD ignition, 3 inch exhaust. I run the bigger pulley and added more mufflers just so I would behave.

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You should be good then. I didnt know all that

Yonah_Mtn · June 19, 2018

11 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

The previous owner had the engine pro built in Houston. It’s stroked, aluminum heads, MSD ignition, 3 inch exhaust. I run the bigger pulley and added more mufflers just so I would behave.

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A bigger diameter pulley slows a centrifugal type blower down and a smaller diameter speeds it up. More blower speed = more boost and more boost = more RWHP.

With any crankshaft driven centrifugal kind of blower the larger the diameter, the slower the blower spins. Screw type blowers have a street or strip drive.

I used to street race for $$ which I no longer do, period. Although it was fun and the $$ was great. It is crazy stupid on the street as I like keeping my license. At this point in my life, I enjoy building..

More mufflers add more restriction or less power.. I own and drive a high 9 second car and my foot on the right pedal is the control. Why add more mufflers? Why invest all the time, money and dyno time only to limit it??

All my hobbies have torque or recoil.. I was blessed as my 45 years in industry was spent in power train design (engines, transmissions and diffs) and my last 11 in forced induction or turbos or blowers.

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TXGREEK · June 19, 2018

Moving on!

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KARNUT · June 19, 2018

A bigger diameter pulley slows a centrifugal type blower down and a smaller diameter speeds it up. More blower speed = more boost and more boost = more RWHP.
With any crankshaft driven centrifugal kind of blower the larger the diameter, the slower the blower spins. Screw type blowers have a street or strip drive.
I used to street race for $$ which I no longer do, period. Although it was fun and the $$ was great. It is crazy stupid on the street as I like keeping my license. At this point in my life, I enjoy building..

More mufflers add more restriction or less power.. I own and drive a high 9 second car and my foot on the right pedal is the control. Why add more mufflers? Why invest all the time, money and dyno time only to limit it??

All my hobbies have torque or recoil.. I was blessed as my 45 years in industry was spent in power train design (engines, transmissions and diffs) and my last 11 in forced induction or turbos or blowers.

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No kidding. Small pulley more boost. More mufflers to make it quieter. Point was has more than enough power. It’s not my first rodeo.

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Yonah_Mtn · June 19, 2018

7 hours ago, KARNUT said:

No kidding. Small pulley more boost. More mufflers to make it quieter. Point was has more than enough power. It’s not my first rodeo.

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I didn't mean to offend you.

They also add more restriction which limits flow.

If someone wants less, change the tune, the A/F ratio etc. I have 2 tunes from the dyno pulls. The one is mid 600s and the other more.. To use the more, I'd have to replace the LS-6 clutch with a dual plate, replace a lot of parts in the transmission and diff. It really isn't worth the $$ to me.

jeff@torqstorm · June 19, 2018

Hi guys. Came across this post and wanted to stop in to answer any questions anyone has about our superchargers. Main one being that our kits do not come with intercoolers. That does not mean we don't want you to run one. As stated above a supercharger compresses air, when it is compressed it becomes hot, the intercooler will cool the air charge making it more dense. Dense air = more hp. We have chose a different path than some of our competitions. And since then have notice we have started somewhat of a trend. We wanted to offer a supercharger kit that was high quality, the best warranty, affordable and gave the customer freedom to choose their destiny. Our kits come with what is needed to attach the supercharger to your engine. Head unit, brackets, pulleys, tensioner, hardware, belt, bov and bung, air filter. People like to build their own vehicle the way they like, within their budget. And no two vehicles are built the exact same. For example, one guy may have a bone stock 5.3 silverado and he wants to make an extra 100hp and thats it. The next guy might have a 6.2 silverado, with a cam, headers, more compression and e85. Why would they both want to spend the same amount of money for the same exact kit when the injectors, fuel pump (usually a band aide boost a pump), and a hand held box tune, when they are never adequate.

So why not buy a superb supercharger kit, add the injectors that are rated for your goal, build your own intercooler setup the way you would like it. (air to air, air to water, etc) Replace the actual fuel pump not add a boost a pump, and get it dyno tuned properly to your location and build. We like to do things the right way, and have had good feedback from our customers on the path we chose.

To sum it up, you wont be dissapointed if you choose to go with a Torqstorm Supercharger. We stand behind our product and are there to answer and guide you through your build.

Feel free to email us at [email protected] or call us at 616-706-5580.

Jeff

KARNUT · June 19, 2018

I didn't mean to offend you.
They also add more restriction which limits flow.

If someone wants less, change the tune, the A/F ratio etc. I have 2 tunes from the dyno pulls. The one is mid 600s and the other more.. To use the more, I'd have to replace the LS-6 clutch with a dual plate, replace a lot of parts in the transmission and diff. It really isn't worth the $$ to me.

No offense taken, in this thread earlier I explained why I detuned and quieted it down. More sarcastic than anything, I’m over 60 it’s a rite of passage.

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Donstar · June 19, 2018

19 minutes ago, jeff@torqstorm said:

For example, one guy may have a bone stock 5.3 silverado and he wants to make an extra 100hp and thats it.

Like KARNUT, I've earned the right of passage. Does this product simply and safely add 100 hp to a 5.3? Specifically, does it make for premature wear on other engine components and/or significantly reduce MPG? If not, is there a kit for the 4.3?

Yonah_Mtn · June 19, 2018

4 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

No offense taken, in this thread earlier I explained why I detuned and quieted it down. More sarcastic than anything, I’m over 60 it’s a right of passage.

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I'm over 60 myself.. I love retirement..

I've been racing cars all my life.. I miss the old all motor days.. Back when building and basic tuning could done at home and the spot on at the strip. With the price of gas today.. Boosted is sweet and softer on the MPG wallet.. OTOH, a dyno is required to tune it. The old saying the only free cheese is in a mouse trap.

IMO, nothing sounds better than an old fashioned all motor engine..

jeff@torqstorm

I worked with forced induction systems for 11 years; I'm still under the keep their secrets secret game..

I'm running a Lingenfelter fuel pump which is rated at 17V continuous. The big injectors needed more fuel than than the pump can deliver at car voltage; therefore the boost-a-pump..

For supercharged Camaro SS or ZL1 applications over 525 hp or for naturally aspirated applications over 600 hp we recommend voltage boosting the factory pump. This voltage booster kit offers variable voltage settings and can go up to 17 volts which is the maximum LPE recommends for the stock pump and factory fuel pump controller.

https://www.lingenfelter.com/product/L460111410.html

That works for new car fuel pumps; not mine. I wouldn't over volt a stock C5 pump.. As a former drag/street racer; leaving HP on the table is a "sin."

Even better, where I live emissions inspection isn't required; so I can do whatever I want.

KARNUT · June 19, 2018

https://www.lingenfelter.com/product/L460111410.html

That works for new car fuel pumps; not mine. [emoji3] I wouldn't over volt a stock C5 pump.. As a former drag/street racer; leaving HP on the table is a "sin."

Even better, where I live emissions inspection isn't required; so I can do whatever I want.

Agree, the mufflers are glass packs followed by glass packs. I don’t go to the drags anymore, when I did it was mostly test and tune for my own information on what ever I was tinkering with at the time. First with 70 model cars, diesel trucks, then back to cars. Mostly tuning. By the mid 90s I was pretty satisfied with the performance being offered. My competition was family brothers, father and the mechanics who work for us. Most of our efforts went to the family business. I wanted one last keeper project hitting my mid 50s I was looking for an older easier build. I had a low mileage 2 door 98 Tahoe I was leaning toward it for the build. I sat down to work on a build strategy for the build. My wife was a EBayer and said why don’t you check what’s selling on there. She knew I go extreme on the build and was hoping I would find a done deal. I found the 92 with everything and more for less than the engine build would have cost me with the Tahoe. Eight years later with no thoughts of selling, that’s a first for someone who’s had over one hundred vehicles.

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KARNUT · June 19, 2018

Like KARNUT, I've earned the right of passage. Does this product simply and safely add 100 hp to a 5.3? Specifically, does it make for premature wear on other engine components and/or significantly reduce MPG? If not, is there a kit for the 4.3?

Adding performance can cause wear and tear. It’s right foot dependent. Example my 92 350 came stock with 200HP. The first owner just added the Whipple. 10 years and 80K miles later his buddy bought the truck. He wanted more. He stroked it added aluminum heads, MSD, raised the boost to 10LBs, stall converter, headers. I bought it it’s still going. A new engine with cylinder deactivation, questionable. I don’t run it hard all the time, but I’m first from the light every time can’t help it.

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