GM making a mistake or not

[flyingfool 390]

only issue GM is going to have with EV's is... cold climate sales, since lithium batteries loose over 50% of their performance when cold, which means you need to heat the batteries with the cars own battery thus reducing efficiency below Gas.

then there is the whole climate control thing, you ev owners are polluting more by charging your ev from the power station instead of using solar panels on your house, A grid of panels to charge the car with a battery storage bank will cost you over $80,000  and require a weekly or monthly  maintnance. and if your not living in the sun belt your power absorbsion from sunshine is less efficient again

 

to sum it all up , ev's are a small niche and cant replace fuel energy.  unless the US gov and millitary releases the patents and tech on old man Tesla's wirelesss power transmission device, ev's are a gimmick for yuppies and city dwellers

Edited Thursday at 03:32 PM by flyingfool

[diyer2 1,796]

I'll say again...batteries are for cordless tools and vibrators. 

[Grumpy Bear 3,644]

2 hours ago, flyingfool said:

only issue GM is going to have with EV's is... cold climate sales, since lithium batteries loose over 50% of their performance when cold, which means you need to heat the batteries with the cars own battery thus reducing efficiency below Gas.

then there is the whole climate control thing, you ev owners are polluting more by charging your ev from the power station instead of using solar panels on your house, A grid of panels to charge the car with a battery storage bank will cost you over $80,000  and require a weekly or monthly  maintnance. and if your not living in the sun belt your power absorbsion from sunshine is less efficient again

 

to sum it all up , ev's are a small niche and cant replace fuel energy.  unless the US gov and millitary releases the patents and tech on old man Tesla's wirelesss power transmission device, ev's are a gimmick for yuppies and city dwellers

https://www.hindawi.com/journals/ijpr/2012/207532/

 

By 2010 the figure was 83.6%. The US population is increasingly and overwhelmingly concentrated in metropolitan areas. More than 90 percent of the country’s entire population growth in the last decade occurred within MSAs.

 

This report goes on to say an additional 10% of the population lives in mirocurban defined as cities between 10 and 50K. SO nearly all the US population now lives in a city!!! That is some sad news kiddo's. 

 

Within the city is where most of the USA lives now. The new generation doesn't even want to drive nor leave their 20 mile circle. I don't know what to make of this. Long distance ability only matters to the OEM if the people buying are long distance drivers. Am I missing something? 

 

They don't make the connection between the hamburger and a cow so how do the make the jump from lithium to child labor and the carbon footprint to mine it? They don't care where the battery is junked. Out of sight is out of mind. 

[Likarok 377]

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/autos/gm-going-all-electric-will-ditch-gas-diesel-powered-cars-n806806

 

Read This!  I may have time for one more Chevy truck in my life! Although they don't come out and say it I would estimate that by 2030 you won't be able to buy a gas or diesel truck! Not new anyways!

 

GM likely in there typically overly optimistic time frame are saying they will have 20 models by 2023. I mean they can't even tell you when you will be able current model Silverado with the Multi pro tailgate.

 

They always talk the talk at press conferences and then you never see a model to market when they say it will happen. Maybe when they deliver the new electric truck in stead of flying it in with a helicopter they will have the Jetsens fly it in for us! 

 

Maybe I have the covid depression but I am really sick of the way everything as we know it is going down the drain.

 

 

Edited Thursday at 07:21 PM by Likarok

[Grumpy Bear 3,644]

1 hour ago, Likarok said:

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/autos/gm-going-all-electric-will-ditch-gas-diesel-powered-cars-n806806

 

Read This!  I may have time for one more Chevy truck in my life! Although they don't come out and say it I would estimate that by 2030 you won't be able to buy a gas or diesel truck! Not new anyways!

 

Maybe I have the covid depression but I am really sick of the way everything as we know it is going down the drain.

 

 

All the more reason to make what you have last forever. 

 

Question boyz and girlz. What do you think ''Big Oil's' response to this will be? 

 

Taking a typical barrel of crude oil, 50% is used as gasoline, 40% as diesel fuel, heating oil, jet fuel, and kerosene, and 10% as residual fuel oil. That last one, “residual fuel oil,” is not the same as motor oil.Jan 20, 2020

 

 

Edited Thursday at 08:03 PM by Grumpy Bear

[flyingfool 390]

10 hours ago, Grumpy Bear said:

https://www.hindawi.com/journals/ijpr/2012/207532/

 

By 2010 the figure was 83.6%. The US population is increasingly and overwhelmingly concentrated in metropolitan areas. More than 90 percent of the country’s entire population growth in the last decade occurred within MSAs.

 

This report goes on to say an additional 10% of the population lives in mirocurban defined as cities between 10 and 50K. SO nearly all the US population now lives in a city!!! That is some sad news kiddo's. 

 

Within the city is where most of the USA lives now. The new generation doesn't even want to drive nor leave their 20 mile circle. I don't know what to make of this. Long distance ability only matters to the OEM if the people buying are long distance drivers. Am I missing something? 

 

They don't make the connection between the hamburger and a cow so how do the make the jump from lithium to child labor and the carbon footprint to mine it? They don't care where the battery is junked. Out of sight is out of mind. 

after 2019 covid pandemic, it seems everyone left the city who could afford too, and bought homes in rural areas for back up plans

[Likarok 377]

So in about 10 years are we going to be like Mad Max stealing gasoline trucks and fighting with each other over gas to run our trucks? hahaha

 

I guess agriculture and industry will still use fossil fuels! I have not heard of John Deere coming out with an electric combine or tractor. 

[Grumpy Bear 3,644]

15 minutes ago, Likarok said:

So in about 10 years are we going to be like Mad Max stealing gasoline trucks and fighting with each other over gas to run our trucks? hahaha

 

I guess agriculture and industry will still use fossil fuels! I have not heard of John Deere coming out with an electric combine or tractor. 

But you did hear of the all Electric Corvette SUV...right?

 

Total destruction is the company goal?

 

[flyingfool 390]

1 hour ago, Likarok said:

So in about 10 years are we going to be like Mad Max stealing gasoline trucks and fighting with each other over gas to run our trucks? hahaha

 

I guess agriculture and industry will still use fossil fuels! I have not heard of John Deere coming out with an electric combine or tractor. 

Bill Gates new Goal for the next 10 years is to buy up all farm lands and breed his own grains, and have EV robots harvest it.