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26 minutes ago, Jettech1 said:

Everyday I have to go through the gates of hell with security guards letting me pass through into the parking lot of Delta Air Lines..  you would not believe all the great compliments I get.  They all are like, I love your truck, I love how it's blacked out, very cool truck....almost an everyday thing for me.  I always say thank you and am very grateful....and wish them a great day as well...Yeah my beast is like rolling in a lambo....LOL....  

well don’t get carried away now. Haha. I used to own a Viper rt/10. 95 it was a last 200 with side exhaust car. Borla exhaust with smooth tubes and hre 3pc forged aluminum wheels 20/19. Black on black. Now that car got attention. Too much. 

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2 minutes ago, Leonardo Willi said:

First off, Love it- especially the color. Black is always beautiful. I initially started this (apparently is some fantasy world) expecting to get 21' model. Being honest, I struggled with the nose. Kind of like tequila, it was an acquired taste turned into love. So that's what I did, I told myself to be open minded. Here's a secret, when I saw the front of the 24's? I kind of felt like I missed a piece of something. I've had my build your own truck as wallpaper on all my computers since the start, in that Cherry Red tint color - I've been looking at it for so long, I'm ready for a color switch and black always works. It will match damn near everything I own with tires now HAHA! ~ just meant to be.

 

 Now on the part of "is it hot?" hell yeah! If i saw it I'd say "High Country" for the painted bumpers - Sweet - but I think, you'ld really like the 6" steps in chrome better, that's how I went. Black and Chrome - best color combo ever in my world, but I'm old too. Sadly, I couldn't get the chrome wheels I wanted but it also saved me what, $2500? i wanted the 20" multi dimensional chromes. But, with GMC only 1 20" option for an sle, non-crew cab.  

 

 but I feel ya, I love my 16' "Red Hot" and she's been the absolute best truck I've ever owned since I could drive hands down and come on, who doesn't look at anything bright red?.... I got a free soda from the gal at the drive thru at Arby's the day I took it home. I think she could smell the new truck smell and smiled big and said, that's a pretty truck....HAHA! to be 25 again... :D  ~ Best to ya man. 

I love it... and yes we have a hot red Explorer because my wife loves red....and it really looks pretty cool.  But yes, I'm older now and getting ready to retire in a few years.  Life is good...to be 25 again, well....that would be kind of cool, but I like how I've aged.  I've gotten kinder and better to others.  Not like I was an ass to people when I was 25.  Not at all.  But with age I appreciate life more and the simpler things that come with it.  I used to like leather under my ass while driving...that doesn't always work out so well here in the south...I used to like a sunroof, that I never opened...See where I'm coming from?  As I get older I like the more simpler things in life.  I've spoiled myself terribly over the years and I feel very lucky I could do that.  Along with spoiling others too.. It's all good at the end of the day...let's have a beer together or many beers...I would love that... 

 

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5 minutes ago, Pryme said:

well don’t get carried away now. Haha. I used to own a Viper rt/10. 95 it was a last 200 with side exhaust car. Borla exhaust with smooth tubes and hre 3pc forged aluminum wheels 20/19. Black on black. Now that car got attention. Too much. 

No reason to brag there young man....LOL.... but that was an awesome car...

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14 minutes ago, Jettech1 said:

I love it... and yes we have a hot red Explorer because my wife loves red....and it really looks pretty cool.  But yes, I'm older now and getting ready to retire in a few years.  Life is good...to be 25 again, well....that would be kind of cool, but I like how I've aged.  I've gotten kinder and better to others.  Not like I was an ass to people when I was 25.  Not at all.  But with age I appreciate life more and the simpler things that come with it.  I used to like leather under my ass while driving...that doesn't always work out so well here in the south...I used to like a sunroof, that I never opened...See where I'm coming from?  As I get older I like the more simpler things in life.  I've spoiled myself terribly over the years and I feel very lucky I could do that.  Along with spoiling others too.. It's all good at the end of the day...let's have a beer together or many beers...I would love that... 

 

Oh man, sure sounds like a parallel universe there, totally get that. 25 again? hell no, I was an aswhole then and besides, be young in this mess of a world? no thanks. I survived the 80's and that's saying something where I grew up (DC area) and all that valuable knowledge I learned the hard way? expensive way? Nope, don't get that lucky twice my friend and with inflation? holy hell nope. 

 I semi retired a year ago at 58 - Still taking orders and getting btched at but it's different when you're sleeping with the boss - As busy as I stay now, I don't know how I ever got anything done and working. Serious, everyone says the same thing. 

 I'll crack a beer on my new tailgate and do another 0-90 speed test :D I'm expecting the 6.6 to give it to me a little harder.... that doesn't feel like it rolls off the tongue just right....hmmmm HAHA! 

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We would still own that vehicle today.  But Statefarm totally screwed us.  They quoted us 236 a month.  We were in our late 40's at the time with no traffic tickets or anything else, so what the hell right...Well we bought it and then it became 500 bucks a month to insure it...We were pissed....They totally screwed us.  We checked out other insurance agencies and were quoted the same thing.  So after 2 plus years of owning that amazing vehicle.....we gave up and traded it in on the 2019 Explorer Sport...

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5 minutes ago, Leonardo Willi said:

Oh man, sure sounds like a parallel universe there, totally get that. 25 again? hell no, I was an aswhole then and besides, be young in this mess of a world? no thanks. I survived the 80's and that's saying something where I grew up (DC area) and all that valuable knowledge I learned the hard way? expensive way? Nope, don't get that lucky twice my friend and with inflation? holy hell nope. 

 I semi retired a year ago at 58 - Still taking orders and getting btched at but it's different when you're sleeping with the boss - As busy as I stay now, I don't know how I ever got anything done and working. Serious, everyone says the same thing. 

 I'll crack a beer on my new tailgate and do another 0-90 speed test :D I'm expecting the 6.6 to give it to me a little harder.... that doesn't feel like it rolls off the tongue just right....hmmmm HAHA! 

Too funny....I know exactly where you are coming from....

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Interesting, but kind of expected chit chat, nothing earth shattering - just another data point for the brain pan ~ There's a few interesting numbers for thought here and some basic logic where you go "yeah, that makes sense, kind of understood principals" and good to hear it organized in the right way of looking at it. 

 Over all, it's worth the price as a free view on the "Internetz"

 

 

 

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A PS to that video and a question - when I puled my boat, 9000 lb'r, with my 3500, damn forget the year, like a 97? 7,4 with 4L80E trans, I added a B&M trans improver I think they called it. I wired it into something or another and it had a 3 position switch for stock/firm/hard shifting programing. I ran it in the middle basically always. In hard postion, those shifs hit really hard. But towing, it was smooth. I basically just wanted to avoid slippage which I interpret as wear. I lifted it 2" put on 16X9 wheels and 33's, nothing radical. Looking back, dumbest thing I ever did was sell it and buy a Phord SD250 with that boat anchor 5.4? something aluminum head nightmare/gutless wonder that sucked just as much gas if you asked it to do something besides sit in the driveway. Oh the regrets...too many to remember.

 

 My question - Is there that kind of device today for the trans that is safe and reliable to use? ... Or is it one of those "lets hook up the laptop and stick some files in here and there"????

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I'm willing to caution a guess that a Whipple equipped 6-speed truck could outperform the Global B locked 10-speed truck.

 

Modded to stock unfair? Yes. However, at least there's the option to do so. 10-speed could be great, but 401hp and as-delivered tire size (for speedo) for life will end up making the 24+ mothership locked trucks a drag.

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This guy made another video on his channel of the truck going through the gears casually. It sure seems like a lot of shifting all within 500rpms. Good for towing and keeping you in the meat of the powerband.

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On 3/25/2023 at 10:48 AM, Pryme said:

This guy made another video on his channel of the truck going through the gears casually. It sure seems like a lot of shifting all within 500rpms. Good for towing and keeping you in the meat of the powerband.

I think and I hope it will be a wonderful trans for many years to come.  Anything that helps with keeping the engine in its power band is awesome.  That whole hunting for gears thing, it will just feel normal after a while I'm guessing.  Kind of like the brake pedal feels higher than normal, and it is.  But you just adapt to it and soon, it's a normal feeling.

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12 hours ago, Jettech1 said:

I think and I hope it will be a wonderful trans for many years to come.  Anything that helps with keeping the engine in its power band is awesome.  That whole hunting for gears thing, it will just feel normal after a while I'm guessing.  Kind of like the brake pedal feels higher than normal, and it is.  But you just adapt to it and soon, it's a normal feeling.

 

I went from a 5 speed to an 8, and I worried about it being busy. That lasted all of 5 minutes. Nothing sounds better than a burly v8 rowing through the gears. It's all in the tuning.

 

When slowing down to almost stop, my truck will downshift from 8th to 4th and then stay there until it's almost stopped. If I hit the gas before it stops, 4th is too tall so it downshifts immediately and smoothly into (say) second and takes off again. If I come to a complete stop it just drops one more time into first. Some trucks/cars might also start off in second gear if they're not in tow mode etc etc.

 

I'd also hesitate to use the word "hunting", as that is a completely different thing. Hunting is when the transmission can't make up its mind what gear to use so it constantly swaps up and down. If you're pulling a load up a hill in a 6 speed, 4th might be too tall so it downshifts, but now its screaming and making too much power so 3 seconds later it upshifts... but now its too tall again so downshifting etc etc. With a 10 speed it can pick the exact gear it needs and stay there; or downshift once and stay there. It really comes down to the tuning. I know the ZF 8 speeds are tuned amazing, the Ford 10 speeds not so much. I've heard good things about the GM 10 speeds though and I'm sure that whoever buys these 10 speed gassers will be thrilled.

 

This truck is definitely back on my radar now. No way I could move back down from 8 to 6 gears after living with mine for the past 4 years, I'd be so frustrated with how it tows.

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He posted an unloaded 150mi drive to test gas mileage. No difference between the 6 and 10 speed. He even mentioned the final drive ratio being so close that he didn’t anticipate much difference. 
 

 

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