HSrider

Thanks for the additional responses and at this time I'm still on the fence on keeping Raptor or moving on to AT4. Need to make up my mind soon though because the crazy trade in prices might be going away soon now that 2021s can be ordered. Yeah I've been looking all over for AT4's and will do what was suggested because like others I never paid ADM on a truck and don't plan on starting now supply/demand or shortage not happening with me. So I'll keep checking with dealers if I find one that has an AT4 like I want and no ADM that might make it easier for me to decide what I want to do.

So finally got out and drove the AT4 in all engine configurations and have to say it's a really nice truck. I liked the ride a lot and even got to hit a few speed bumps in test drive area and that wasn't horrible and who knows what tire pressure was set at but ride wasn't bad. The 3.0L diesel was nice but not sure I want to be stuck with one fuel choice, last time I owned diesels it was more expensive than premium and I don't need a diesel. It was a crappy weather day so couldn't tell a huge difference between the 5.3 and 6.2L but again wet roads and the test drive area sucked. Looking at mileage difference though I would probably just go with the 6.2L and then have it if I need it. The 10 speed seemed smooth and shifted well and the interior was super quiet compared to my last 2 Ford's. Tailgate was cool as well. The leather did feel a bit cheaper to me compared to my Ford but maybe that was just me. Overall I was impressed, the only problem was the dealer I did my test drive at has a $10K ADM on the AT4 models or maybe all of them because of the supply/demand situation going on right now. So as of now I'm still on the fence on what I want to do and also if I buy now I need to find a dealer willing to start the discounts at the MSRP price at least and also find one that has most or all options on it that I'm looking for. So just wanted to report back and if I end up in a AT4 I'll be sure and let you all know. Funny to me at least I looked at the pictures released for the new 22 Tundra and have to say looking at the front end of it and the AT4 in my mind they look similar but the AT4 looks much better.

Congrats on the new truck I'm looking at the 2021 AT4's as well need to drive one and see what it is all about. If I jump it will be my first GMC or GM product ever. Die hard Ford guy but after two that have had some issues I'm about done with them and the current one is getting nice resale/trade so I could move to AT4 with zero or very little out of pocket. Cool that you got the 5.3L / 10 spd. I'm debating between 5.3L and 6.2L. If I didn't have such a short commute to work I would consider the diesel, but think I'll stick to gas. Enjoy your new ride

Thanks for all the replies some good information. I hear you on the AT4 and Raptor being different and know the Raptor is a league of it's own maybe still even with new TRX. The Tremor might be an option but 2021 Tremors or Raptors can't even be ordered yet. Plus even though diehard Ford guy after a 2011 F250 6.7L had to get a new long block after 66K miles because of glow plug coming apart and now the Raptor 3.5L ecoboost possibly having cam phaser issue will find out more next week. Well it might be time to give another brand a shot. I've always said all can have issues and built by humans and robots but even I have my limits LOL So I need to get out and look at one in person maybe later today and then see about getting a test drive to see what I think. I know there are other trucks that would fit my needs but I also like a truck that looks good and has the aggressive look right from the factory. Thanks again and I'll keep you all posted.

Well I'm in Maryland and I use my trucks but not like the Raptor or even AT4 might be able to be used as. No real off road places here or near me and I leave the off road stuff to motorcycle it's cheaper to repair. I just like an aggressive/capable truck and I like the piece of mind 4 WD gives me in winter months or if I need it during the dirt bike stuff. So for me just looking for a nice truck and fun truck that looks good as well. I tend to drive my trucks like sports cars a lot so it has to be fun to drive. Like you mine is basically on pavement 95% of the time. Hopefully that gives you more info on my uses.

Understand missing the tech but for me I'm not a huge tech guy and I don't think that will bother me. The one thing I like in the AT4 that I thought should be in the Raptor is the heads up display. I like that feature in the last two suv's we bought for my wife. I need to go look at one in person and test drive I think the 6.2/10spd would be a nice combo.

New to forum and currently drive a Raptor but with the current market the prices they are getting on trades or outright buys has me thinking about switching to something else. Right now the only thing that interest me is the AT4. Plus on East Coast can't use Raptor to full potential so might be time to unload and just have a cool aggressive looking truck. So how do you all like your AT4's? Looking at 6.2L model if I can locate and just curious how good they are. Thanks in advance.