Same here. Just bought my 2019 GMC 2500 6.0 last month. I had owned a 2015 6.0 also, and really liked it. Once the 6.6L has a proven long term track record like the 6.0, I will be interested. I happen to like the pre 2020 styling better and decided to get a deal on a 2019. I do hope the 6.6 turns out to be a great engine - but it seems like the 6 speed with 3.73 gearing will be working against it. I imagine there will be revisions to the powertrain along the way - and I am interested to see how it turns out.
I'm looking forward to hearing about some first hand accounts also. The most recent video I could find on the 6.6 gas is this one:
I know on the new half tons the bed is wider by about 6" and the bed sides seem taller. Before picking up my 2019 Sierra 2500 I took a look at the 2019 half ton Sierra to get a better idea what the 2020 3/4 and 1 ton trucks might look like. I was not impressed and decided that I would rather be in a 2019 with a well tested gas powertrain and better styling (in my opinion). When looking, I particularly disliked the new tailgate. A push of a couple of wrong buttons will send the tailgate smashing into your ball hitch (which I always have on my truck). Even if that didn't happen (which with my luck, it would happen without a doubt), the fold down feature would be rendered useless for me anyway. I also prefer a regular handle over buttons on the tailgate. Automatic opening of the tailgate from the key fob was over the top and just had me shaking my head, reciting the famous words of Sheriff Buford T. Justice - 'What in the hell, is this world coming to?'
Cat, the truck I bought was one on the lot. I was actually looking for a 3500 but the dealer made me a very good offer on the 2500. Build date was in late July, so it wasn't super old stock either.
I just traded in my 2012 3500 4x4 DRW Duramax for a 2015 2500 4x4 6.0 gas truck. I couldn't find any 3500's setup how I wanted, and the dealer was willing to give me a good deal on a 2500, so I went for it. For the small increase in price, unless you can't find what you are looking for (like me), I don't see why you wouldn't go with the 3500. As for gas or diesel - I guess it really depends. I don't tend to keep trucks for very long - so to me the diesel option is basically free. The truck's value, when it comes time to sell/trade, will be (should be) increased exactly by the amount that it actually costs to get the diesel. So really, if you want the diesel, the cost of it shouldn't be a concern if you plan to turn it over before too long. Now if you are planning on holding onto the truck for a long time - I would be very hesitant to get another diesel. While its under warranty you should be fine - but I have real doubts about the new diesels and their crazy emissions systems (and wonder if it continues if resale values will actually remain as high as they have been). My 2012, with less than 30K miles, gave me three big problems due to the emissions systems (once when I was 1500 miles from home and in the middle summer traveling through the desert). Those three times, there was nothing actually wrong with the truck physically - but the over reactive emissions controls along with problematic sensors would have left me stranded in the middle of the desert for no other reason than it thought there 'might' be a problem. So after having the truck in the shop for a couple of weeks and also messing up a big trip for me far away from home, I decided to kick the diesel to the curb and go back to gas and I haven't been happier. I only tow around 10K max, but most of the time it is around 7.5K so I don't feel like I am missing much. At this point I don't think I would get another diesel until all of these systems have been refined or eliminated, and I would absolutely never own a current diesel that is out of warranty - just too much risk for me. That's just my take on it.
If it was the late 1980's, and Robocop was going to drive a truck - I would think the new Ford SD would be the one he'd pick. I thought the current gen styling was bad - but this takes it to a new level. It's pretty sad for me, because at one time I was actually a Ford truck fan...
I doubt that it will be available as an 'official' upgrade from GM. But I see that there are third parties already offering things like phone screen mirroring, so perhaps a third party might offer a solution at some point in the future. From what I can tell, though,real CarPlay and Android Auto will probably require different hardware than what the 2015 systems currently have.
It's interesting that you should say that, Cowpie. After getting my 2500 and hooking up my trailer, I was surprised to see that the 2015 2500 was about 1.5" higher than my 2012 3500 DRW. I know that a couple of inches doesn't sound like much - but after getting my new truck home I was wishing that the rear end was a little lower. I use the bed of my truck a lot, and I appreciate the lower height for loading/unloading it. In fact I was actually looking at the 1500s, trying to convince myself that I could 'make' it work due to the fact that they were a little shorter - though in the end I came to my senses and bought the 2500 that I was originally looking at.
Thanks Cowpie and Charlie, I picked it up this morning and I'm loving the sound of a V8 gas engine again. I really liked my Duramax, but it left me high and dry twice - and then immediately had the same issue a third time after being at the dealer for a couple of weeks. I treat trucks and guns the same - if they ever let me down - I get rid of them.
I just traded in my 2012 Duramax 3500 W/T 4x4 CC DRW for a 2015 2500 LT 4x4 CCSB Z71 with the 6.0. Sticker was $50K and the purchase price was $39K. On the trade side, the dealer did really good and I got $3K more than the best trade in price that I could get from a bunch of other dealers. My 2012 was the best trade in I ever got from a dealer. I bought it for $40K in 2012 and they gave me $34K in trade. That truck only cost me about $142/month since when I bought it I got 0% financing too. I don't think I will be able to come even close to that good of a deal on my 2015 (which I pick up tomorrow). So I got about 22% off sticker on my 2015 - which I am pretty happy with.
I just traded in my 2012 Duramax 3500 for a 2015 2500 6.0, and I was not able to find these internet private offers either. What I have found (which you might already know) is that besides normal rebates and incentives - GM offers $750 if you are a member of a credit union and $500 off if you are a member of the Farm Bureau. I was able to pick up my 2015 2500 4x4 Z71 CCSB for 22% off of sticker without the private offer ($50K sticker to $39K purchase price) - so I think you might be able to do just as well without it. The dealer gave me a killer deal on my trade in also (about $3K higher than anyone else was willing to do). Good luck.
I am also a fan of smaller wheels and bigger rubber. I'd rather scuff rubber than a wheel. I'm amazed at how many trucks at the dealerships have 20" wheels on them - its actually difficult to find trucks that have wheels less than 20" wheels. If I had to choose between 17" wheels and 20" wheels, I would take 17" every time - but I think the 18" wheels size is a pretty good compromise. I guess I'm just old school like that....
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