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Last post for me about 2014 Silverado. My nightmare is over. History, 3 different sets of tires and 1 set of new rims = vibration and shaking 95% gone however since that was fixed I've been thru erratic idling like miss firing intermittently, crunching in the front end when going over bumps, harsh slam shifts 2nd to third gear. Non of which the dealer has been able to fix. My truck has been in the shop at least 20 times and only 30,000 km's on the truck. I'm am done and traded it in on a 2016 Toyota Tacoma DBCSB. Never buying a Chevy, Ford or Dodge ever again. Losses are 2yrs of payments as I have to start over again. Oh well, good by Chevy go die at the Levy....Hello Taco....

Hi everyone I havent posted in awhile because I thought my problem vibration/shaking problem was fixed. So here we are again, shaking has reappeared 23k. It was good for the last 10k at least tolerable, now im thinking I need a balance but none of the weights have come off because I used metal duct tape overtop of the weights. I am quite fustrated by the whole experience with this truck. Its shaking to the point that if I dont have a lid on my coffee it spills out. I am to the point of not spending anymore time or money on this truck. Its been to the dealer multiple times for shaking. Has had new aftermarket rims, 2 sets of tires, also new tires for stock rims. I'm thinking thats it I'm done. Last trip to the dealer for a balance and if its not fixed will be trading it in for a 2016 tacoma which will be thoroughly driven before I sign. Lesson learned - fully test new vechicle before signing....

I will say it again. Goodyear tires that come with the truck are garbage. Even my Falken zies st05 305/40r22 had to have 3 tires replaced due to shaking at 40 and 70 mph. Finally got mine sorted after spending 200 bucks getting roadforce balancing by a qualified tech. 3 of my tires had a roadforce rating of 38lbs or higher go figure. Had a hell of a fight with Falkien but at the end of the day they replaced the tires and now all four roadforce under 15lbs and voila shaking and vibrations are gone. This has taken me over a year to resolve but at last this truck is smooth at all speeds. I am finally happy with my truck. Hopefully the rest of you guys having vibration/shaking get it sorted. Start with a good set of tires and find a qualified tech that knows how to use a road force balancer. My tech spent 3hrs the first time balancing and then another 2 hrs after recieving 3 new replacement tires.

For all you members out there with Shakerado's. Ford has Vibrators too, I decided to make a video today showing the vibration of our new work truck, 2015 Ford F250. If I had a choice to buy a new truck it will be Ram of Toyota from now on.

Sounds to me like GM should and could do a better job. How about they start using that EVA tool on all trucks that have a vibration and or shake issue instead of following the book. Might make it easier to diagnose, it seems obvious now that these truck could have tire, rim, driveshaft, axles and whatever else as problems. I'm sure they might be able to pin point each separate issue easier with the EVA tool instead of just throwing parts or multiple balances at these trucks in hopes that it fixes the problem. I'm glad that you're truck is fixed for now and I'm happy with my truck again. I hope that GM takes care of the rest of the people that are having issues with their truck and especially everyone here on this forum. Some of the posts of what people are going thru with their trucks and GM is just mind boggling and quite ridiculous. C'mon GM lets get all the people with vibration and or shaking issues resolved, so people can start liking their trucks again.

A good balancing machine that's calibrated and a tech that knows how to use it properly is key. When my aftermarket tires were installed and balanced the balancer showed they were spot on however after multiple rebalancing due to vibrations it was determined that 2 of the tires were out of round. The original guy that balanced them twice didn't notice they had a hop to them. In my case it was only til I took the truck into GM their tire guy showed me the hop problem, this is after they put a new set of tires and rims on my truck off of a 2015 vehicle. Needless to say I got my two tires warrantied from 1010 tires. It made the truck better but not good enough. I took my aftermarket tires off and went back to stock. I already knew my stock Goodyear tires were crap and vibrated that's why I switched out to aftermarkets in the first place. At this point I knew it was tires again because the dealer proved it to me. My dealer knew that I wasn't happy and offered me 100 per tire towards a new set of winters for the stock rims. I wasn't happy that I had to pay additional money for the new tires but I figured with snow coming it would be better than my aftermarkets and I wanted the shaking and vibrations gone. The dealer assured me that his tire guy would make sure my tires and rims would balance properly and my truck would ride smooth just like he had shown me with the set of tires they put on it earlier from a 2015 vehicle. I agreed and when I got my truck back it was smooth as silk and I am once again happy with my truck. It was a lot of time to get this sorted out but I'm glad I did. To say this was a frustrating experience you're damn right it was. IMO these trucks are built stiffer and lighter than the older generations any imperfections with tires and wheels will be magnified. A slightly off balanced wheel might not be felt in an older heavier truck according to some tire shops. Too make things even more interesting we got a brand new 2015 f250 a month ago at my place of work. I took it for a drive when we first got it with the stock tires. Talk about a rough ride jiggly ride sorry but my chevy rode better even with its worst vibrations. So my work place takes the truck in to get tires swapped out to BF Goodrich AT's for winter and off road use and guess what? Yes the ride was much better but still not anywhere as good as the chevy is now.

Too add a little more incite. If you look at my avatar you will notice the after market rims and tires on my truck. I couldn't get these tires and rims to ride smooth after multiple balancing and replacement of 2 tires 305/40r 22. They cost me 1500 and are sitting in my garage. I'm not sure if I will sell them in the spring or try road forcing them or even the bead trick. For now I am happy with the stockers and new tires but I sure like the look of my aftermarkets. At this point good looks take a back seat. I can say without a doubt do not rule out tires as the problem. My total cost to resolve my issue was 2k sure wish I had that 500 mile guarantee when I was having trouble.

My dealer gave me 100 bucks for each Goodyear stock tire. He also gave me his cost on the new hankooks. It cost me about 500 to do the deal. Small price paid to get rid of annoying vibrations and shake. I'm not saying tires are the only issue with all of these trucks but like I have posted in the past. I had some really bad shaking and vibrations with my truck. Went thru multiple balances with stockers, swapped out to new 22 inch rims and tires, had those balanced twice and 2 of those tires were replaced as they were out of round. It got better but never fully smooth. I went back to stock rims, had dealer install new hankook winter tires and the truck rides like a caddy. No shake or vibrations right to 100 mph. I for one understand the frustration people on this forum are going thru at one point I was going to get rid of the truck and trade it for a ram eco diesel. I hated my truck when it vibrated as it drove me nuts. My last resort was my dealer installed a set of new rims and tires off of a different 2015 vehicle and told me to take it for a drive. Too my surprise the vibration and shakes were gone. I made the deal to upgrade my stock goodyears with the dealer and so far it's smooth. Hope this helps and if I had an opportunity to try a new set of tires that are guaranteed for 500 miles I'd be all over it.

I guess it depends. Did you buy the tires from you're dealer? Or were the general grabbers on the truck when you bought it?

I have been saying tires, right from the get go. I had lots of vibrations and shaking with my truck. Stock Goodyear tires on these trucks are garbage. I had after market rims 22inch rims and Falken tires which also had issues causing my truck to vibrate. I went back to stock rims and new hankook winter pike tires and vibrations and shaking are gone. I have put on 3500km's since my last post and truck is still smooth as silk. I suggest everyone try the 500 mile warranty on the toyo's or Michelins. What do you have to lose at this point. If it doesn't solve the problem you wouldn't be out anything other than you're time.

I had the issue with 22" after markets. Went back to stock 18's had vibrations with the good years put on new hankook winter pike tires and I have no vibrations anymore. I consider myself lucky for the time being.

Mine used to do the exact same vibrating as posted in you're video. I started with the shitty Goodyear LSA tires and had vibration from the get go. Then switched them out to aftermarket 22inch rims with Falken tires. It turns out two of the Falken tires were NFG and replaced under warranty. The problem still persisted and GM wouldn't do anything with the truck cause of the after market rims and tires. I swapped my after markets out and back to the original 18inch rims with brand new hankook winter pike tires and still had vibrations so I took it into GM. They had these new winter tires roadforced balanced and my vibrations were gone. It's now Smooth no matter what speed I travel. I think tires and rims properly balanced are the key. I was about to lose my mind after 4 tire changes but that's what it took to get rid of my vibration problem. If I was to do this again I wish I would have just bought Michelin tires for the original rims and had a good tech that knows what he's doing road force them. It would seem that these new trucks are so stiff that any out of round tire or slight imperfection in balancing is going to cause vibrations IMO. I'm also sure that anything on the truck that is slightly out will cause vibrations as well. I wish everyone here gets their vibration problems fixed or a buy back if it can't be fixed. As for me I have probably spent an additional 3k in tires to get to a set that doesn't cause the truck to vibrate. I will likely sell my after markets and recoup some of my loses. It's a shame to have to go thru this type of experience. On a side note our company just bought a brand new 2015 ford f250 and let me tell you this truck vibrates and rides so much worse than my Chevy has ever even at its worst. I think if I had the choice to buy a new truck again it would come down to the new Dodge eco diesel or Toyota. I really like my Chevy again but it was a pretty frustrating experience. I was ready to park it and burn it at times when it was a vibrator. I truly know how some of you feel on this forum.

yes. mine did the same

Okay. So here is an update on my truck. took off the 305 40 R22 tires and rims today. Went back to stock 18inch rims and new hankook winter tires. I am happy to report my vibrations are gone. Smooth as a caddy up to 160 km's. Drove the truck at 110 to 130kph for a good 45 mins and all is good now, absolutely no vibrations. I'm a happy camper again. Hope you guys figure out the vibration issues on your trucks. My issue was definately tires and balancing.

Okay so here is a bizarre update on my truck. I load up my 3000 lb boat for the long weekend drive 400 miles and have vibration above 65mph all the way to my destination. I pack up and drive back, no vibration at all. I unhook my boat when I get home and decide just to go for a quick drive up the highway just to see if its still good and guess what still no vibration at all right up to 100mph. I hope it's gone for good but for some reason I think not.

I have tried down to 31psi and on my truck the shaking is more pronounced. Currently running 39 psi and it's much better but still have some shaking not as bad. A GoPro camera mounted underneath looking at each wheel is a great idea.

I am still convinced these trucks are sensitive to tires and balance. I mean can't get over the fact driveshafts, complete rear ends, motor shims, cab mounts, shocks. I mean really everything has almost been replaced on theses trucks and no one can figure it out. Seriously I am more convinced than ever I'm gonna try these ceramic beads and give it a shot at this point. My understanding of this balancing technology is it balances the whole wheel assembly. I will share my findings with the forum.

So it's been about a week since I had my 2 out of round tires replaced. The shake has gotten worse, it was a lot better a first but now it's just as bad as before I got these tires replaced. Think I am going to try something radical. There is this a product called dynabeads by this company http://www.innovativebalancing.com Apparently you put this stuff in your tire and it continuously balances the tire. Anyone ever try something like this? It definately couldn't hurt to try, I may just give it a try. Sure would be something if this fixes the problem.

Discount Tire in Bellingham has the road force and charges 165. They said they will force match my tires all inclusive no extra charges. Much better deal than where I live in Canada, will probably do this in Sept.

Here is an interesting post from another forum about road force balancing tires. It would seem that toyota FJ's had issues with vibrations. Re: blood boiling over road force balance!! I remembered i had copied the post and was going to have it done by a local shop with the Hunter 9700 but decided it was not worth it.Here it is so you wont have to go searching for it on the forum. There seem to be a lot of people posting with tire vibration problems through the steering wheel around 60mph. i was one of them. i've had my FJ for a while now and have gotten it fixed with the help of another member. The problem seems to be related to a very big and heavy wheel/tire combo, and the suspension not soaking up the small vibrations. The cause of the vibration on the road is not actually the balance, but the Road Force Number (basically if the tire is a little out of round). No tires are perfect but Michelins are historically the most round because of the way they are made. The roadforce number can be reduced. Also i have noticed that the wheel locks sold by Toyota are 1 Gram off weight compared to the lugs. i noticed a difference on my Fj. Make sure the tire shop has the Hunter 9700 balancer. Here's the fix to print and take to your tire shop. if they follow this properly your vibration will be gone! Please print this out for your tire tech, not many techs know how to do this. This will fix your steering vibration, once & for all, but allow up to 1.5 hours of actual labor & maybe replacing a tire or two. Why some FJ's are sensitive & some aren't, I don't know. I've heard many explanations & I dont know what to believe. Below is our best fix to date. Start by using a wheel with 15mm or so of offset(on a 8.5" wide wheel), zero offset wheels dont seem to work when using a custom wheel, try to stick to a 275 or skinner tire, we've had some luck with 285's, of course the bigger the badder. Using the Hunter GSP9700 with the latest software (older 9700 software wont work, uses a different mathmatical formula) with the Smart Weight feature: First, disable the smart weight, very important! Back cone the wheel and use the 6 on 5.5 front finger set up. Road Force & ForceMatch, must Forcematch the wheel & tire combo &/or the set to get each below 15 pounds of road force, the lower the better, even if it Road Forces pretty low, ForceMatch every tire any way, no reason to do it half ass. Also, it MUST only be out in the 1st Harmonic, if any tire/wheel combo is out in the 2nd, 3rd, ot 4th Harmonic, change it out, its not fixable. After this is all done by turning the tire on the wheel &/or swapping tires & rechecking the road force( write this # on each wheel), use the Dynamic balance mode to zero out the balance, then check in static mode, if needed add the 1/4 ounce or so, shouldn't need more than 1/4 ounce if any. If weight was added in static mode respin in Dynamic mode & make sure it still says zero zero (0.00 0.00) if it says OK OK it is still in SmartWeight system & it wont fix the problem! After all this you can put back in the SmartWeight mode and the two tires on the screen should just have a sliver of green on the bottom of the tires, this is good, if it shows more than about 1/10th of the tire in green then it need to be redone or replace the tire or wheel. Now put the lowest road force numbers(hopefull 6 lbs. or less) on the front of your FJ with Hub Centric wheels or with the Hub Rings installed(must be hub centric)! Road Force Variation is : For every 10 pounds of road force in the assembly = 1/2 ounce of vibration at 50mph or 1/4 ounce vibration at 70mph, so 30 pounds of road force would equate to 1.5 ounces of vibration at 50mph but only .75 ounces at 70mph, this is one reason most vibration problems begin at 55ish and go tend away at 65ish & this can NOT be fixed by balancing! Let me clarify the Harmonic thing, if an assembly is bad in the 2nd-4th Harmonic then that assembly it is NOT usable, but that doesn't mean the tire or the wheel is bad, just that that paticular marriage is no good , quite possibly the same wheel with different tire is okay or same tire on different wheel is okay. (9-1-06) One other trick I forgot to post. On sensitive cars we like to raod force hot tires, drive on them for 4 miles or so & do the fronts, drive again & do the rears, it will road force way different hot than a clod tire, more of a real world fix.

I was told they came off a 15 model. Not sure what model it was but it doesn't matter cause whatever my dealer put on cured the vibration.

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Thanks, I will wait til my next trip to the states if it's only $20 a wheel. I'm sure they must have a road force 9700 somewhere in Bellingham, or Seattle. Not interested in paying $200 plus in Canada.

First thing I did was take mine to the dealer and showed him the vibration while out on a drive. The mechanic swapped out my tires and rims for a brand new set off of a 2015 model. He let me take it out for a ride with him and it was smooth all the way thru to 160kph. At least for me It turned out to be 2 defective tires. I'm gonna also hang my hat on and say the stock Goodyear tires and or rims on the 2014 are garbage.

My tire dealer did happen to mention that they make these new trucks lighter for better fuel efficiency and more rigid to handle more like a car and they are real sensitive. He said the tires he replaced on my truck probably wouldn't have caused nearly any vibration on an older heavier truck. He also mentioned that low profiles tires and deep dish rims are the hardest to balance because the weights would look horrible on the outside of the rim where they should be to truly balance properly. He mentioned that Porsche and BMW have weights on the outer rim from the factory but they are paint matched and not as noticeable. I read an earlier post here that someone mentioned they have had the weights put on this way and it worked out for him. I don't like the look and will probably put up with this small vibration. When I say its small, I mean its equivalent to the last small car I had with19 inch low profiles. Almost any vehicle I have ever owned with over size rims and low pros have all had a slight vibration of some sort. It's really nothing for me to worry about anymore unless it gets worse. When my ass or foot gets vibrated to sleep again then I will have them road forced. At least my dealer proved out that it was my tires and rims that were and are causing my issue. Still think he will be seeing me again when I put the stockers back on for the winter.