Njmurvin, thanks for you input. I've had a 2015 LTZ 2500HD with the Allison and I hear you, its awesome. I think if they were to install them into the Ram it would be a done deal. I didn't know Ram was having a pump issue, that's no bueno. Trying to stay out of the shop for awhile saves me time and money. Pretty good to hear you were able to get 10k off MSRP. I usually let my wife do the talking. I think the prices are good now but unfortunately I'm not buying till Feb Mar timeframe.