ScathaTheWorm

And? Most of the Toyotas there also look similar... Point is, these people DO USE other trucks also. I have seen a photo of an LC70 and an F 250 with rocket launchers somewhere in the Middle East, with the LC70 struggling to hold the weight of the launcher unlike the F 250.. Many also have collapsing bed sides. And yes, they can get blown up like any other truck I do like the 79 Series Land Cruiser...and if ever I stay in Qatar, I probably may purchase one (with an automatic and a 4.0L V6 in addition to a 6.2 GMC/Chevrolet Truck and maybe another SUV)...but these LC pickups are EXTREMELY overrated for what they are....and do HAVE their limitations. In Toyota Qatar's website..they are classed as a LIGHT COMMERCIAL VEHICLE...but I have seen them carry NOTHING here funnily enough other than livestock or similar ...unlike GMC/Chevrolet pickups. For example, they cannot tow as much as a 2500HD Silverado. I drove a Land Cruiser GXR V8 2019 as a rental, and that actually shook at speeds closer to 120 km/h...and it was 100% bone stock. Mine had the 4.6L V8, the sound of which I did like...but plenty of other things I did not. Bottom line- Toyotas are FINE for what they are designed to do...but of course they can be destroyed as well.

Then that is fine then I guess. You can keep your avalanche..to 2 million miles or more.

So you evidently are willing to pay higher prices because of their "reliability" .Sorry, but there are others that cannot afford them. They are NOT the best either...and I will personally NOT risk owning a twin turbo V6 which is VERY complex out of warranty. Your choice. I would prefer an engine that I can work on without issues, and something that is reliable as well. In Qatar, majority of the GMC/chevrolet trucks HAVE cylinder deactivation, and the numbers that fail in general (including in US) are MUCH lower than those that do not. I am tired of repeating this over and over.

They are used because they are GENERALLY STOLEN...and once they break they are thrown away. The truth that Toyotas are "unbreakable" NEEDS TO STOP. They simply are not. I guess you did not consider these...

Still, that does NOT change my mind. Do you want to own an overly complex engine that requires the CAB OFF to service? And turbos to be at the back of the engine? They surely WERE NOT quick to solve the DPF/DEF issues in Australia, nor where they quick in settling the rust lawsuit which they were forced to pay...You can read about the many other lawsuits Toyota has had. Does NOT make them better than any other manufacturer...and there are people who cannot afford their costly products also, so settle for a GMC/Chevrolet product (or even a Nissan) that can give just as good service with proper maintenance.

By the way...there is a DFM Disabler out, but I WILL NOT recommend it at this point as it will void your warranty, kill your lifters eventually and also FAIL inspection where you live. Check your spark plugs or injectors. Those can be the issue also. These engines are naturally noisy...so it would be wise to do a good checkup. FIND a proper technician that can help you also.

I heard one report of an MY24 7.3 gas which had knocking and ticking noises... What will the L8S have? MDS like the 6.4? If that is the case, even the 7.3 Godzilla and the 6.8 will probably follow soon after...

Could be the injectors or even the spark plugs. Replace them ASAP..will help avoid a problem Also, USE PREMIUM FUEL ONLY. and change oil+ filter using right type every 3k-4k miles...

Unfortunately NO. Toyota has NOT fixed the problem because of their goodwill...they did it because of the lawsuits they would face if they did not. And MY24 Tundras as well as hybrids have failures.........also.... The issue is the engine that costs 25k+ to fix out of warranty....? Would you like to take a chance on that? And, it depends whether your Tundra is under warranty or not

I do agree. I recently saw one case a an MY24 Tahoe 6.2 that failed a 320 miles...but I DO NOT know if it its true or not, or whether it had some issues prior to being bought that caused the failure... Build dates of the 6.2s that are failing would be a good start, as we know the issue started from MY22.5 and continues to MY24 models (not sure if the dealers have early MY24s on their lots made in late 2023..or MY24s made in January)....I have heard also they AGAIN had a supplier change and a new part number.

I fully agree with regards to the pushrod engines. My point, is that with regards to the Toyota, being a twin turbo engine that REQUIRES cab off access and turboes being at the very back...does not make it very user friendly if you like to work on it yourself..... I did drive a 2019 Land Cruiser GXR V8 as a rental and the engine almost took up the entire space...We get the 4.6L V8 as well...that was what I had.

The Trailblazer had it that time as well. The 5.3L V8 especially. Only engine that did not get it was the Atlas I6. To be fair, I have not heard about widespread failures of the AFM/DFM here in Qatar aside from very isolated cases...and the trucks we get also have the system on them. Only one 6.2 case recently due to main bearing issues....

Compare that to a 25k+ V6 TT Tundra engine replacement.... Point is, the vehicles MAY have an issue that is being under investigation..which probably will be rectified BY MY26 or so... NOT BECAUSE they are junk. A 19 6.2 going bad either is a lemon, or very badly maintained. Calling them junk just because PEOPLE THINK they are is wrong...either you DO your maintenance properly or you neglect it and you deny it. Simple. Go ahead and argue. NOT GOING to listen.

I am aware they planned to introduce it in MY05, but delayed it. RAM had it in MY06...with their MDS. Still, I am pretty sure the EPA had some specific requirements which they HAD to meet in a set timeline....and would have tried other techniques as well. I would reason with an engineer as well...but the unfortunate thing is...IT IS HERE to stay, with the increasingly stricter standards. Would you prefer a V6 TT Tundra that can cost 25k+ to repair out of warranty, or this? My point is neither.

I disagree. Unfortunately the situation is larger than you think it is, and adding VVT would NOT have met EPA standards, otherwise they would be having it now instead of DOD. You cannot just criticize them since they probably would have tested that in around 2007...but it would NOT have met EPA standards... CAFE standards are there...otherwise why does Auto Start Stop exists. The only option I see personally is to live with it, simple. And if I had a DFM truck, I would change the oil regularly and use the correct filter, fuel type and driving style.

DOD IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE. It will be to stay, and maybe you do not realize that IF they removed it, they would be FINED HEAVILY...so they have to keep it. Only thing I would ask is a better and stronger bearings and tighter and more robust lifters. DOD is a maintenance issue...neglect it and it will make you pay. Even in Qatar here we have it...and it is illegal to disable it. Other manufacturers such as Toyota have had PLENTY of debacles....and GMC/Chevrolet is no different from them. They still sold large numbers in the Middle east, even with the beating they took. 1. Make the 5.3 V8 with 380-400 hp minimum 2. The 6.2 must be updated to have 440-470 or just under 500 hp.

Then I suspect it might have been defective from the factory....or the person was unlucky.

Both of those look abused.... This is not as widespread...as lets say, the 7.3 Godzilla camshaft delamination problems (which I am not sure still happens on the MY24s....).

Ford's Godzilla does not have cylinder deactivation, and has camshaft and lifter problems.... I DOUBT the 6.6 gas will be getting cylinder deactivation anytime soon. MY25 and MY26 will likely be the same. That segment in general is NOT regulated as much as the 1/2 ton segment. Also, the EPA and CAFE unfortunately have control over what they build with regards to the 6.2, so complaining about DoD will NOT do anything.

I suspect it is an issue maybe with user error also, especially if the person is on the third engine. Or maybe, it could be a lemon. The problem is...the break instructions are strict. Mess with that..you will pay the price. One more thing...use premium fuel ONLY.....This is VERY IMPORTANT. And, examine the oil filter for issues after 500 miles....and proceed afterwards to remove the particles gradually. The new Tundra is no better...if anything the entire setup is more complex. Replacing 100k engines does not mean anything when they will likely be on backorder ......and if they cost 20k+ out of warranty.

I suspect it could be injector issue or spark plugs. Run a code scan. Do you hear knocking or ticking?

That food is forbidden in our culture....

As for the oil required...that seems to be more of a government decision.

Some MY24s have failed as well....but there has been a part change recently in the midst of this. I suspect it may get fixed by the end of this generation...or at least reduced to lower levels. I still would not call the rate exponentially high... Toyota did something similar with the Tundras...

I would recommend to steer away until they fix the bearing problems...I hear fewer reports on the MY24s than on the MY23s...and there seems to be a change in the part number as well...so I think it will be sorted by MY26. At this point, better go to a MY22 LTD/MY21 6.2 w/o Auto Start Stop or DFM, or alternatively look at one MY20 or below (better option).