I can second that newer vehicles are more likely have electrical or computer issues before mechanical ones. Thanks for the recommendations too, Donstar pretty much summed it up when he said this would be a "nice refresher" from my current truck. My current truck is as base as it gets. I miss having cruise control and power windows very much. This truck (I am interested in) has cruise control and I am looking at making some kind of commute in the near future so it definitely interests me. Also no offense to anyone but do not think I would buy a truck without 4x4. I do not use it often, but when I do it is most definitely worth the extra money and little bit of impact to fuel mileage. Also I like that the 4x4 sits a little higher than their RWD counter parts. This truck is definitely going to need new tires pretty soon and would still like a more reasonable offer. So like others have mentioned if they get closer to what I want to pay and I can talk them into new tires then we might have a deal. Plus I am going to put a nice bed cover on it right after I get it too. Probably the new Revolver cover from Bak Industries. I have the F1 Bak Flip now and have been happy with it overall. My main complaint is having the long bed means more cover. So when I have to flip it all the way to the cab it becomes heavy and blocks my rear window. The Revolver looks like it solves all those complaints.
Yeah definitely, a learning experience that I will not soon forget. I am anxious to see whether or not it is sold into the near future. If it is, that is okay with me. I cannot remember what user recommended speaking to the sales manager awhile ago, but that is what I should have did. It may have been you. Like I said he seems more easy going and less like failing to sell the truck will send him to the gallows.
Yeah it makes me very uncomfortable to say the least. I just did not want to talk completely bad about them, the only reason I have put up with them this long is because I am interested in the truck. The entire atmosphere they create just makes me get out of there as soon as possible. Not to mention they just lie through their teeth. I can say I now know why people use the line "it was like a used cars salesman" etc etc.
They convinced me to bring my truck in today to see what a trade in would be and we were way off. They offered me $4,500 for it and I know it is easily worth $8,000 so that was a no go. I made them an offer of $19,000 and the saleswoman got very upset. It is not like I have not told her that before and that has been my highest offer yet. I guess she just thought she was going to talk me into it if she saw me in person. The first thing I asked her was whether or not I could bring it home for a day and she said it was probably not something they could do. Thanks for all the replies. For now I am going to stop thinking about this one and check back in about a month from now. If they still have it then hopefully they will be more willing to deal. I believe I talked to the sales manager and he was much more professional, he acted less like his life depended upon selling me the truck. So I am going to ask to talk to him in the future, if the truck has not sold in about a month or so. If you could not tell, this is a big move for me. The Silverado I have now was my first ever real truck and making the move onto something that costs twenty grand just makes me nervous. 1.) They keep using the lifetime power train warranty as a selling point, can anyone attest that they actually come through? A buddy of mine said they would not, especially if I decide to service the truck myself. 2.) Back on topic, can anyone tell me advantages/disadvantages of the 4.3 V6? Such as oil changes being more complicated on these models?
I like having the long bed in my truck and to be honest I just like the look of the regular cab. It can be a pain in the @$$ sometimes since you are limited to your passengers. I have to admit that is a good deal for that truck. However, I would not buy one like that because of the limited rear seating, not sure what it is called but think it is a total waste. No offense to anyone that has it, but if I have a truck with four doors the rear seating should not be limited like that. My plan is to just let them sit on it over the weekend and contact them again early in the week. I am going to offer $17,500 for it and might consider it for $18,000 or even $19,000. I am in no rush, I have a truck right now that is fine, I have plenty of time to wait for an upgrade.
I am not wasting my life on this at all. Not only do I think it is worth my time I personally enjoy it, even discussing it. Also I have gotten some good advice from users that I can use now or in the future. Secondly, I have only been to the dealer twice. The first time I was there I was not even interested in this truck because I overlooked it because I did not think it was 4x4 and the 4.3 V6. Now that I know the engine is comparable to mine in performance and saw it is a 4x4 I am interested. Also I have only talked to them on the phone a couple times. My next move is going to be talking it over with my father, coming up with reasonable number, telling her what it is and asking if I can bring the truck home for a day.
That is understandable. I plan to keep it and run the miles up on it. I may have to consider a job that is a considerable commute so the cruise control and fuel economy over what I have now is a big turn on for me personally. Many of the people I have talked to that know the subject have recommended the 5.3 V8 but said the 4.3 V6 will give better fuel economy. I think it will be very similar with both of them being EcoTec I hope to notice at least a couple extra miles to the gallon with the 4.3 V6 overall. I absolutely have to have a truck. I guess I could consider an SUV with a trailer but not something I even want to think about right now. She told me to text her anytime but I am scared to now. She does not have my cell phone number yet but has been calling the house a lot lol. So the main reason I am getting rid of my truck is because it was originally from Pennsylvania. So it is starting to show signs of rusting, it is not bad right now but my friend said I am definitely going to have trouble with inspection in the future. It is also coming up on needing new brake pads and rotors too. None of that is a huge deal to me just would rather not have to deal with it, especially the rust.
I wish these Michelin's had a better ride to them. I will not doubt they are superior tires that will last but I had a softer Good Year Wrangler tire on it before and the ride was noticeably better in my opinion. However, I am happy I went with Costco and Michelin and did not get talked into something cheaper somewhere else.
Yeah I know it varies from locality to locality. I did not know it was that much though. If it is the 5.3 V8 with 4x4 it is pretty considerable. Anyway, that is one reason I sent the link I did before, it should display prices in my area. I am just throwing this out there, but I would never have anything like a motor vehicle shipped to me. I just personally feel uncomfortable doing that. I could not justify paying for something like that without seeing it first. Just like I would never buy a vehicle with that much damage for any reason, whether it was a collision, deer, etc. When I bought my Ferris IS2100z (zero turn) I payed almost exactly $10,000 for it. I could have saved about $2,000 with free shipping if I would have bought if offline and had it freighted to me. I seriously considered it but decided to go with the dealer. Even though it would have had warranty I could just not justify spending that much money to have something arrive at my door step that I had not seen yet. Now that I like Ferris I may (as in probably not) consider buying my next one offline.
I am looking for advice from reasonable people. Not morons. Also I am still waiting for you to show me where you can buy this truck with options, brand new for $23,000? I am trying to get advice for buying what I think is a nice truck and you come suggesting one that is wrecked? Like I said go waste someone else's time.
I love people on the Internet that know everything. My friend what you have posted is a from a salvage yard. The front of that truck is literally destroyed. If you would have taken literally fifteen seconds to look at that before posting instead of scrambling to make a point you would have been a lot better off. So who is out of their mind?
I definitely want a better deal, but I have been doing research and the MSRP for this truck is easily $30,000+. It looks like with options it is closer to $35,000. Now I realize you could even negotiate that offer lower. I talked to a friend in the business I trust and he said the lifetime power train warranty is pretty much a scam. He said it is especially true if I do my own maintenance because they are not going to accept my records/receipts as real evidence. Every single time I talk to them they mention the lifetime power train warranty over and over again even though I have told them it is not a big selling point for me lol. So if you were me and wanted this truck, what number would they have to come down to interest you? Also here is a link to Cars.com when looking at similar models. This exact truck I am looking at is listed there from this dealer too. It is confusing because there are base models that are brand new there listed at $23,000 but have nothing. When you look at ones that have options like 4WD and cruise control you jump up about $10,000. The price listed for this truck is good but not great. That was another argument I made last time I was on the phone with them. This one already has a spray in bed liner which I like too. https://www.cars.com/for-sale/searchresults.action/?bsId=20210&cylCntId=28108&mkId=20053&mkId=20061&page=1&perPage=20&rd=50&searchSource=GN_REFINEMENT&shippable-dealers-checkbox=true&sort=relevance&zc=25414&localVehicles=false
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