ShamrockShooter

I have the gm card top off points so I get an extra $1000 that expires at the end of the month but I still don't think it will be enough to jump into a 19 just yet. Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

Thanks for all the points of view. The current 16 I have now was not the truck I went to buy, but when I saw the white Texas edition with 22 inch black rims with all the options, I just couldn't not buy it (especially for 13 k off msrp). I am affraid if I walk in and see a trail boss it will be all over, and I won't buy the RST which will probably be more practical price and mpg. It will probably come down to finding the right color and options I want. If I can find it in an RST and save $3k, I can always add a lift and swap the grille. Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

I did see the 0% for 72. But it looks like you lose most of the other incentives so it might not be that good of a deal if you give up $3,500 in incentives to save $3500 in interest. I also don't like the 0% as you carry a higher balance and if you Total the car pulling out of the dealer you might be upside down on the loan. I was kind of bummed to see the 0% didn't apply to the LT trail boss as far as I could tell. Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

Good luck. Just hope your dealer doesn't do direct loans for the bank with the 2.7 rate as obviously the bank through the dealer is not going to beat it's own rate. But maybe another bank will. As long as you have a credit score around 800 or higher you have lots of leverage, might as well use it. Also perhaps check some online bank rates Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

It seems like the RST is probably going to be a high market trim and have better incentives than the TB ever will. So the TB might have higher resale, but you will have to spend a couple Grand more to get it. Our local dealer has 40 rst and only 2 TB with almost no markdown for the TB. Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

Or I could get the RST and order the Trail Boss grille and red tow hooks. Pick up a set of TB rims, and a 2 inch lift like you said. Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

Just remember that rear axle gear ratio, tire pressure, ethanol free vs 10% ethanol, winter vs summer gas, uphill/downhill, into wind or tailwind, and outside temp are going to play a big factor too in comparing mpg from one truck to another. The TFL youtube truck guys just did a 100 mile loop in a 19 4x4 with the 2.7 turbo and got 24.2 mpg hand calculated using the same pump and 70 mph speed. Think the DIC was 24.3. Your results are promising for sure. Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

Also some banks and credit unions will knock an extra .25 or .50% off if you setup auto payment. Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

Most of the credit unions by me are based on your employer or where you live. The point I was making is you just need to look around at several local credit unions and find the one with the lowest rate, then use that as leverage to get the dealer finance person to beat that rate. You don't need to disclose to the dealer that you are not actually a member. It's like a small poker bluff. Just be aware that some dealers will deal direct with some credit unions so then it won't work. All of this is pointless if you take the $1500 and finance through gm financial Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

My 16 is still under warranty. Are you saying there was a TSB to swap out the wireless charger for one that works better? Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

The one on my 16 is worthless. It only works if you align your phone perfectly and even then I needed to try about 10 times. I gave up and just plug my phone in. I wouldn't waste you time given how poorly mine works. Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

I am not a fan of chrome but I will say that is a sharp looking truck with the chrome and black. I don't get why everyone is so down on the new Silverado interior. Has anyone actually been inside an F150? Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

I'm torn. I like the looks of the trail boss better, but the practical side of me (mpg, and lower step in height for wife/kids) says the RST might be the way to go. Im not a chrome guy so not much interest in higher up trims. Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

Sounds sweet. Magnaflow has an off-road exhaust with a turn down tip you might want to look at. Are you concerned about exhaust gas heat and condensation with just a regular tip like that? Or do you only open it when you want to hear some extra noise? Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

Finance tip. If you have good credit find a small local credit union with a low rate. Go to your dealer during the finance part of the deal and tell the finance person you want them to beat the local credit union rate or you will just bring a check at closing. They will look at you like you have 5 eyes, but insist they call all their usual lenders to see if they will beat your credit unions rate. I have done this the last three vehicles and each time I was able to get the dealer to find a bank to shave 0.25% off the stupid low rate my wife's small teacher credit union offers. I did this on my wife's Subaru she just bought. The credit union had 3% for 72 months, got the dealer to find another bank to do 2.75% for 72 months when initially they said the "Best" rate they could find for me was 3.9% for 72 months. This had nothing to do with promotional financing just getting banks to compete against each other. Good luck. Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk