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  1. sorry didnt realize this is 9 months old
  2. Misfire Diagnosis and AFM Lifter Insight Your issue sounds similar to my misfire issue which turned out to be caused by an AFM lifter that was misaligned inside the lifter guide. This happened after I rebuilt the cylinder head due to a faulty lifter in the first place. Once oil pressure built up, the misaligned lifter would deactivate on its own without a signal from the solenoid, which led to the misfire. From what I understand, the L87 engine uses AFM lifters on all cylinders as part of the more advanced DFM (Dynamic Fuel Management) system, compared to the simpler AFM setup in my 2011 Yukon Denali 6.2L. However, the diagnostic process should be similar. How to Check If Your Lifters Are Working Properly Remove the valve cover Start the engine and observe the rocker arms at idle The rocker arms should move up and down normally as the valves open and close. If a rocker arm stops or has insufficient moving after a few seconds or minutes, this usually indicates a lifter issue. Possible Causes Misaligned lifter Faulty lifter Weak spring that no longer meets pressure specs, causing premature deactivation Broken lifter lifters are a complex creation and have many moving parts which can break fall apart or get stuck Worn or damaged lifter guide Issue in the valley cover Bad solenoid Solenoid not managing oil pressure correctly Loose solenoid bolts, which can cause pressure loss (in my case, I was able to remove the first three bolts by hand due to looseness) Restricted oil flow to the lifter Worn or damaged camshaft This one I haven’t had the chance to personally deal with yet. If you have good compression, it usually rules out most valve-related mechanical problems and points more toward lifter or camshaft issues. You can safely perform this check while the engine is idling. Unplug the fuel injector connectors on that bank, or for a less invasive approach, pull the injector fuse to prevent raw fuel from entering the cylinders during the test. There’s no need to remove the spark plugs; they can stay in place. If the issue is intermittent, it’s less likely to be electrical and more likely related to oil pressure or premature AFM or DFM deactivation. This could be caused by a lifter with a weak spring, a damaged or worn lifter guide that no longer holds the lifter in place, or a lifter that has already shifted out of alignment. I assume you did not do a head rebuilt and did not get it machined as this is also possible angle. FYI I performed all the usual steps of replacing fuel injectors, testing fuel injector resistance, testing spark plugs, replaced spark plugs just in case, spark plug spacing, replaced ignition coils and wires, replaced valley cover with new solenoid and ran compression test to confirm everything. None of this was my issue. I wish someone had shared this with me when I began my diagnosis. It would have saved me a lot of time. Hopefully, this helps point you in the right direction.
  3. FYI: You can test lifter installation with just the cylinder head installed, including rocker arms and pushrods, but without the exhaust manifold or spark plugs. I temporarily installed the intake manifold only to connect the fuel line. There is no need to bolt it down, just place it in position. Although the fuel injectors are unplugged and their fuses removed, the fuel pump will still run during cranking and pressurize the fuel line. The intake helps contain any potential fuel and prevents it from spraying everywhere. The engine was also drained of coolant, and there is no need to refill it just for cranking during these tests. I used a battery charger to maintain power during cranking since the engine is not running and it is important to keep the battery healthy. With this setup, I was able to observe the lifters and perform a compression test on each cylinder to confirm the head was installed correctly. This method saves time and helps avoid the extra work of fully reassembling the engine only to find an issue that could have been caught much earlier in the process.
  4. The issue has been resolved, and the engine is now running well. The problem was due to a single lifter that I had installed new into cylinder 6, its alignment was off by a few degrees and not properly seated into the designated grooves of the lifter tray. My Journey of fixing this thing is finally over until next time. Hopefully this will be useful for someone while I was also looking for some guidance myself yet figured it out through the tedious and painful process of taking this thing apart and putting back together 3 times. For reference, here is an example of properly aligned lifters in a lifter tray:
  5. I found the following saying that SMOG will not be affected per executive order in California for AFMD: https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/sites/default/files/aftermarket/devices/eo/d-391-1.pdf
  6. I am also considering to proceed with FULL AFM Delete (here is example kit: AFM DOD Delete Kit), however, I wanted to confirm if this would impact my smog check. Thanks!
  7. I’m preparing to remove the head again so I can pull the AFM lifter (probably all of the AFM lifters i bought since cant trust them now) and return it to NAPA Auto Parts. I’m confident everything was installed correctly and have verified that through multiple tests. I’ve also replaced several components, some of which were likely still functional, simply because it made sense during the diagnostic process and as a best practice. This has turned into an expensive investigation (but less expensive than taking to mechanic), but with the flawed design of the AFM system, there’s no straightforward way to troubleshoot these issues. I’ve even been told that professional mechanics face the same headaches with these AFM-equipped engines. In some cases, they end up processing multiple warranty claims within a short period to replace the same faulty lifters. I’ll need a new head gasket and a new set of head bolts. I don’t trust reusing the (new) used bolts, as they stretch during the torque process, which is especially concerning with aluminum block engines. It's not worth the risk. Any recommendations before I proceed with the expensive process again are appreciated at the risk the new lifter will still deactivate, what else could be causing the lifter to go into deactivation when its visible active for short period of time maintaining pressure, I was told its when oil goes into the lifter during cranking and possible the spring on the lifter is not up to spec then activates which indicates a defective lifter. I don't know!
  8. Yesterday, I performed another round of compression tests. I removed all the spark plugs and pulled the two fuel injector fuses so the engine would only crank without firing. I also connected a battery charger to maintain voltage and ensure consistent cranking. I tested all cylinders, and each one showed 210 PSI+ (some 235 PSI for some reason). However, Cylinder 6 behaved differently: while it initially built up to 210 PSI, it suddenly stopped compressing during continuous cranking and drop to zero. That indicated a problem with one of the valves on Cylinder 6. Next, I removed the valve cover and observed the valvetrain while cranking the engine again. This time, I could clearly see that one of the valves on Cylinder 6 stopped moving entirely after a few cranks and stayed inactive. This valve has a new AFM lifter installed, I replaced all lifters on this cam with new ones during the rebuild. I’ve been told this could be due to either a faulty solenoid in the valve valley cover or a bad OEM AFM lifter. However, i replaced the solenoid and I have new OEM AFM Lifter. I've even heard that GM's expensive original AFM lifters can fail unexpectedly, sometimes with very low mileage. What’s confusing is that this time the lifter isn’t physically stuck or making noise, rather, it seems to deactivate suddenly and causes the valve to stop moving entirely while cranking.
  9. The cylinder head appeared to be in good condition, no warping or visible damage, just the typical carbon buildup. The valves held pressure and moved smoothly during inspection. I did make a minor scratch near the dowel guide while removing the head, but the machine shop corrected it. They fully inspected the head and confirmed it was in solid condition. The camshaft was also in good shape. I didn’t allow the stuck lifter to run long enough to cause damage, and there were no scratches or grooves visible. I inspected the cam using a mechanic’s inspection camera while slowly and manually cranking the engine, and everything looked normal. There was also no sign of metal shavings or glitter in the oil or engine bay.
  10. FYI i installed the new valley cover and replaced the ignition coils later when investigating the misfire:
  11. A few weeks ago, while driving my 2011 GMC Yukon Denali (with 185,000 miles), the vehicle suddenly began making an obnoxious noise. There were no check engine lights, but the engine sounded rough. I later discovered that it was an AFM (Active Fuel Management) lifter failure on Cylinder 6. I was able to drive the vehicle home, and based on recommendations to avoid further damage, I parked it and began researching the issue. With the help of a friend, I started diagnosing the problem. The first step was to confirm lifter failure by removing the valve cover. We identified the issue on the exhaust valve of Cylinder 6 its rocker arm was barely moving, indicating a lifter problem. I tried the Marvel Mystery Oil method, following instructions to let the engine idle and drive it briefly, but after several attempts, it didn’t help. I realized that continuing to run the engine in this condition could cause more serious damage, so I decided to move forward with a proper repair. That meant rebuilding the head and replacing the lifters with new ones. I proceeded with head removal steps by taking out the exhaust, intake, and finally the head where the problem was present. After removing the head and removing the lifter trays i laid out the lifters and confirmed one of them was soo stuck that it prevented the roller from moving: I decided to proceed with using the AFM (Active Fuel Management) version of the lifters to repair the issue. I wasn’t entirely sure what kind of emissions or smog-related problems I might run into with California regulations during the next registration cycle, so I chose the path of least resistance and stuck with the original AFM setup. The repair involved the following: 4 brand-new OEM AFM lifters 4 new standard lifters New head gasket New exhaust gasket and bolts New head bolts New valve cover gasket New valve stem seals Cylinder head machined (0.004” taken off) and deep cleaned New dowel pins for head alignment New lifter guide trays New valley cover (valve lifter oil manifold) with new solenoids New oil pressure sensor Fuel injectors cleaned, flow-tested for spray pattern and resistance, with new O-rings installed New intake manifold gasket New ignition coils, coil wires, and spark plugs All components were properly torqued according to specifications, including the head bolts which were torqued in three stages. Now after all that I am getting the consistent Misfire on Cylinder 6, this is the Cylinder that had the original Lifter failure: I tested the ignition coils and fuel injectors which are working as expected. I did compression test of the newly installed head getting the following readings (around ~180 for all 4 cylinders on rebuilt head): I was told that if the cylinder head wasn’t installed correctly, I wouldn’t get proper compression. At this point, I’m not sure what the root issue could be. The only thing that comes to mind is a possible problem with the wiring harness for the ignition coils or fuel injectors but that seems unlikely and a bit strange. Has anyone experienced something similar or have any ideas on what the issue might be, given everything I’ve done so far? If I can’t get this resolved, my next step will likely be a full rebuild and an AFM delete I'm ready to get rid of that system entirely and make this engine truly reliable again. Thanks in advance for any help or input!
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