Dealer shaded me first. Said I'd get "X" amount of discount and then tried to add a "Dealership Marketing Adjustment", and his explanation for it was a lot of bullshit. So I placed a second order.
That dealer has never given me a buildsheet with a bottom line price even though I've asked for it over and over. Keeps telling me the MSRP can change at any time so he can't give me a bottom line until the truck is built/has a window sticker. He actually ordered the build I sent him without my confirming it, said it would sell even if I didn't want it.
So I placed a third order and that dealership gave me the best deal so far AND a buildsheet with a bottom line. So, nah, I didn't shade the dealers, I just wasn't getting straight answers.
Whereas the first Ford dealership I called gave me an order sheet with a bottom line including discount literally the day I sent them the build. Then Ford sent me an email to track my order and gave me a production week inside of a month. So, I didn't place any other orders with Ford. I didn't need to.
And another thing, I absolutely did get a step by step order process from the dealer I ordered my '22 Ram from back in August of 21 at the height of the chip shortage. Could see everything that was happening with the truck from order to arrival at the dealership (which took about 10 weeks). Would have gone straight back to them but just in the last two years Ram has gone insane with their pricing.