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  1. the wanderer
    Of these 2 images; the chevy is better hands down. Not a fan of that grill or the rims in the GMC, it's what you call "trying too hard".
  2. the wanderer
    I think you missed my point. You're implying that it's stupid or nuts to worry about saving $20 week on gas in a truck that costs 55K. I'm saying "no it's not". Money is not endless, and even if one can afford to spend it, somebody might not want to spend it. The budget can be there, but just not what they want to use that money for. $20 week at 10 years = $10,000. Few people who can afford to drop 55K on a truck, got to that position in life by just hand-waving away that kind of money. I sure as heck didn't.
  3. the wanderer
    Why? Your first problem is calling it an "obsession". There is nothing wrong with wanting and needing and enjoying the max power a truck can offer, while still not wanting to pay through the nose for gas. Nobody is going to say "no" to saving money.
  4. the wanderer
    You've jumped the rails ages ago. "better" when used in the original question, just refers to "better choice". https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/better Either you're just bored and having fun trolling everyone, or you simply are incapable of admitting you messed up and just want to save face by banging out one useless post after another. It's exhausting reading your posts.
  5. the wanderer
    I USED TO GET EMAILS FROM A CUSTOMER WRITTEN OUT LIKE THIS. THE ENTIRE THING. HAVE NO IDEA WHY, HE MUST HAVE JUST LOVED THE TYPOGRAPHY OF AN ALL-CAPS EMAIL!
  6. the wanderer
    I know what you're trying to say, but I thought OP's question was quite honest and understandable. He listed both things in his original question that mattered to him; power and mpg. Think it's fair to suggest that "better" in his case is getting more power without sacrificing mpg too much. Yes, that's still not a 100% exact question, but it's also how discussions happen, nothing wrong with that IMO. Just throw out anecdotes and opinions for discussion, as long as they are respectful. Some questions might have a 100% factual response (how much HP in the 6.2), others (like this) might be more anecdotal and opinionated. The opinion questions and answers are fine, as long as it's obvious to everyone with a bit of reading comprehension that they are intended to be interpreted as opinions. Stating an opinion vehemently as a fact, and refusing to listen, that's just being stupid and childish. The micro penis comments aren't helpful, and keep in mind that there are prius, cuv, and 1/4 ton truck owners who will say the same about guys driving the 5.3 or any v8, just to get groceries 99% of the time. And yes, there is absolutely nothing wrong with enjoying the most powerful engine you can purchase in your favourite truck.
  7. the wanderer
    That depends on what the definition of "is" is: ? https://slate.com/news-and-politics/1998/09/bill-clinton-and-the-meaning-of-is.html
  8. the wanderer
    Oh trust me, we left it pages ago. Now shoo.
  9. the wanderer
    Yes it's OK. And yes you can notice it. I'm comparing 6.2 vs 4.3. Grumpy made the claim that there is no difference as long as both have the power to move the truck at the requested speed. That's what I'm arguing. There IS a difference. And it IS noticable. I'm arguing the fact: "there is a very noticable difference", not the opinion: "it does or does not matter." Whether you care or not, or whether your prefer one or the other, that's not my issue. Just don't claim there is no difference to try and justify your purchase.
  10. the wanderer
    Trust me, I wanted a 6.2 with the 10 speed in the worst way. But GM didn't offer that in their lower trims. So first I'd have to pay extra to get into the correct trim, then pay yet again to upgrade power train. Combine that with the fact that Ram's discounts on equivalent packages were much much higher... yeah, I couldn't swing it financially. I mean I have the money, it just didn't make sense to me.
  11. the wanderer
    https://www.gm-trucks.com/forums/topic/239123-53l-vs-62l-v8/?do=findComment&comment=2421489 The engines make different power at different RPM's. Thus you have to rev/flog the v6 more to get the same power out of it. The revving and flogging is subltly interpreted by us as feeling "weak" and "underpowered", vs an engine that can make the same power but at a much lower RPM. I cannot make it anymore clear than this.
  12. the wanderer
    Guilty. I love trucks, these GM trucks as well, and almost bought one so joined the forum before that. Still check in just for kicks.
  13. the wanderer
    I don't even live here, I own a Ram, lol.
  14. the wanderer
    You missed my point; I'm not claiming that the one truck uses 500 hp to get from 0 to 60 in 15 seconds and the other use 300 hp. What I'm saying, is that due to massive differences in HP and torque, these trucks accelerate differently. You don't ask the truck to give you 150 HP. You push the pedal down until the truck moves at the speed you want it too. The v6 simply needs to wind up higher in the RPM band to make the same amount of power that the 6.2 does just off of idle (ok, slight exageration, but you get the point), and needs to downshift far more often than the 6.2 when you want to get a little more power out of it to pass or to roll up a hill etc. So yes they take the same amount of power to get up to speed (assuming same truck and same weight), but because the engines make different power at different rpms, the one truck needs to scream and rev out, and the other just yawns and loafs at 1500 rpms. The RPMS at which these trucks accelerate at the same speed, is much much different. You notice that in your truck everytime you make it work to make it move. The effect on you as the driver, is that you're always flogging the s__t out of your v6 to make it move. Have you guys not driven a diesel before? Same effect there. Maybe you and Grumpy just have no feeling for this kind of thing. You just want to drive an appliance. All the more power to you (he he), then you're definitely in the right truck for you.
  15. the wanderer
    The point is, you do use that extra power, constantly. Every RPM your truck is at, the 6.2 is making more power at the same RPM. Even mild acceleration, the 6.2 does it easier and more effortlessly. You don't have to be WOT throttle to notice it. Want to go from 0 to 60 in 15 seconds? Yup, both can do it. Want to go from 0 to 60 in 10 seconds? Yup, both can do it, but the 4.3 is straining at this point. The 6.2 is still sipping its morning coffee. Want to go from 0 to 60 in 7 seconds? Oops, You can't. That's the issue; the effort it takes to increase your acceleration. The more you want to increase it, the more you notice the difference. I can't believe this is such a hard concept for somebody who, you know, knows complex things like formulas and sh_t. I have to believe you're trolling at this point because nobody can be that dense.
  16. the wanderer
    The point which you're missing, is "reserve power". You can run both trucks up to 60 mph in 13 seconds and then sustain that speed. But the 6.2 has more to give. You feel it the second you ask for a bit more power, or a hill shows up in front of you, or you dip down to 3/4 throttle. Does the 6.2 not feel more effortless to you? Please tell me where I'm going wrong there. Keep it simple, maybe drop down to 6th grade, too many formulas befuddle me.
  17. the wanderer
    Not saying you're wrong, but as the owner of a Hemi and a guy who has tested the 5.3, I'm quite sure the hemi is more powerful all around than the 5.3. If you have a link to that article I'd love to read it.
  18. the wanderer
    You haven't actually made a point anywhere in there. Smoke and mirrors much? ?
  19. the wanderer
    I'm comparing the 6.2 to the v6, not the 5.3. You don't have to be WOT to notice the difference. Both a v6 and a 6.2 might be going down the same road at the same speed when a hill shows up; as you approach the hill, the 6.2 keeps chugging, the v6 runs out of power and downshifts. Grandma might be holding up traffic and you want to pass her; you drop your foot a little (not even near WOT) in both trucks, the 6.2 shoots forward, the v6 does it more slowly. This is the part of your comment (farther up the thread) which is very very incorrect: We don't drive in a math text book. When you actually get in the trucks and daily drive them, the 6.2 just feels twice as strong. You obviously don't care about it, and that's fine.
  20. the wanderer
    The problem is you're not accounting for torque that is coming out of both engines, at the same RPM. These engines will give you different power and torque at any RPM you pick, with the V8 giving you far more torque than the v6. Put them on a dyno, you will see the numbers. You don't have to work them hard to feel that that the one engine is delivering far more power at the same RPM as the other.
  21. the wanderer
    Let's say you would get 18 mpg avg over the lifetime of your truck with the 5.3. Now lets say you would have gotten 16 instead with 6.2 (most people say it's about a 2 mpg difference, least by what I've read). Don't just look at the small number 2 and think it's insignificant. 2 out of 18 is 11 percent. If the difference is 3 mpg then you're looking at 15 percent. 10 to 15 percent over lifetime of your truck is significant. 5 year ownership at $3000/year of gas = approx $3200 difference in gas between the two engines, plus the initial cost to purchase it.
  22. the wanderer
    I'm not so sure. If you live in really cold climates, water gets in and freezes, it expands, and boom, you have another problem.
  23. the wanderer
    Well, one difference might be the tuning/software. I had one of my cars tuned by a pro back when I thought it was cool, and they can definitely change the tune for different octanes. Exact same hardware, different software, different results running the various octanes. So no guarantees that the older engine would behave the same as the newer one.
  24. the wanderer
    Interesting debate! I'm not sure I buy the argument that it's safe to rely on knock sensors though. I drive a 2019 Ram (but love the GM twins too, that's why I'm still here!) and it's the same deal there for the hemi; regular is required, 89 is recommended. And, while running regular, that thing will ping slightly going up a steep hill in my area, even without really working it hard. I put 91 in now because it's so cheap and after a few tanks, pinging completely gone and truck feels more effortless even at low/moderate throttle. So I would hope that the sensors would prevent my engine from ripping apart, but beyond that, without more tuning, definitely wiser to run the recommended 89. I put 91 in because the guy before is doing regular, leftover gas in the hose etc, so by the time I get a tank it's not 91 but probably 89.5 or 90. I grew up in an 1980 caprice wagon with the v8. Same hill, near the end of its life of 17 years, that thing would ping soooo bad unless we ran really high octane. We put in "ultra 94" for a while, pinging went away. Dunno what kind of sensors it had, but that sound is permanently etched in my mind and when I hear it, I hear it, no matter how soft it might be. Bottom line, I run premium despite the manual saying lower octane is acceptable.
  25. the wanderer
    Don't bother. We got leaks too.
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