Stex
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^ most stick very good. Can be hard to get off I find. About as likely to come off as the rim weights. I have posted so many times so hope no one fries me. If you have vibration that is fairly regular (esp at certain speeds) or on certain roads, get a good balance. On the truck if you can find it or a good road force where they will rotate the tire on the wheel if necessary.
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It is the tires. I had vibs over 70 mph and was corrected by tire trueing and balance on the truck. If such is not available to your area, recommend you find a shop or discount tire that knows how to properly road force balance a tire. If it takes too much weight, have them rotate the tire 180 on the wheel. Or just stay below..80..if you are kidding about this
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Good news and some redemption for my many postings on check the tires like my post #91. All vibration would go away on yours if you could find a shop that knows how to true a tire and balance on the truck. Short of that, road force where they rotate the tire on the wheel if necessary is your next best bet. Having drive shaft balanced is the second step if still mild vibration. Replacing OEM is highly recommended but trueing and on truck balance is still recommended on the non-oem. I find Michelin LTX, M/S-2 or A/T-2 to be good. I find the M/S-2 to be just as good or better then the A/T in mild off road and mud. I test drove a '14 cc, z-71 4wd and it had what I though was flat spotting as the tires ride was as bad as I have seen. We drove about 20 miles in very warm weather and it did not clear up. If I was going to buy that truck, I would have had the dealer swap out oems for Michelin and if road smooth would then buy.
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^ what is strange to u?
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As it is so mild, It may well be wheel balance or more possible the out of round tires. I was having my subs tires high speed balanced on the truck. Would be smooth but start to fall apart (vibrate) at 70-75 etc. The shop finally talked me into trueing my fairly new Michelin tires; then high speed balance on the truck. Results, Smooth as glass at all speeds. All tires are some what out of round. that is one of the reasons a shop doing a road force balance may rotate a tire on the wheel 180 degs if it is requiring too much weight. Also some road surfaces can cause an out of balance/not round tire to show a greater vibration. If it bothers you, I would find a good tire shop that can do a good balance on the truck. If a shop has that ability they probably can tell you if they need trueing . If not that find a place that knows how to use a road force machine. Warning, most dealerships are not in the tire balance business and cannot do a good balance. I find the oem Goodyear wranglers on the trucks to be a very poor tire and deserves replacement as soon a pocket book allows.
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Please let us hear back. Dang, this thread has me concerned and I do not even have a '14 and this is slowing my decision on a possible new truck. May just cool my jets tell the Yukon XLs hit to see price etc...dang
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Sorry for the bad luck. On my 09, I replaced the OEM tires the day I bought it. Drove straight to discount and put on Michelins LTX M/S one size up. They gave me a fair price for my trade in new tires. Their balance was fair. Had them trued and balanced on the truck the next week. Smooth as glass. If one would do such you would know for sure it is or is not the tires AND you will have much better tires even if not the fix.
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Yes Really, have they can they fix it? Just trying to help you get the truck fixed. Good luck with your dealer. Outside help for checking the tires etc is cheap compared to the price you paid for the truck.
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Just take it to a good tire shop and have them jack up the rear and run the tires at 30 or so and they can tell if tires have straight tread and if far out of round. Hopefully you can find a shop that can then high speed balance on the truck. Trueing would help more too but hard to find. If you cannot find such go to discount tire or other good shop that does road force balance and have them check the balance. If out pay for a balance. tell them to rotate the tires on the wheel 180 if too much weight required. Trust me, most dealers have little experience properly balancing a tire. If you get a good balance and the tires are not way out of round and still have problems, THEN go back to dealer.
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^ Yes, and rear tire/wheel issues and drive line issues usually make the front seat back move.
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I understand but based on all the comments GM and Dealer cannot fix. That is why I would look beyond the dealer for a check up/fix. Most dealerships are not skilled at tire/wheel issues. the same with drive shafts etc. Just a suggestion. good luck.
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If my truck was at the dealer for a month, I would have posted many more duplicates. Maybe GM will address it. Hope this is not the oil burner issue for the '14s. They had heck with that on the 900s.
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Has any of the nine owners tried having the tires trued and balanced on the truck(they could also tell you if wheels are bent or tire tread not running true) AND drive shaft/u-joints/shims checked by a good independent drive shaft shop? I would be well beyond the dealership for solutions based on the lack of GMs ability to solve this.
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Still could be the tires. I had vibration problems and it has always been the tires or drive shaft. If dealer cannot get it done, I would find a good drive shaft shop in your area. Have them check the shaft. If not a fix then I would go to the tires next. Even a road force balance is not always reliable. If at all possible, find a shop that knows how to true tires AND high speed balance on the truck using a strobe. The truing and on truck high speed balance has corrected vibration problems for me. And this is even with Michelins. It is the only way I will balance a tire. We have had the road force from Discount when putting on new tires. Not good on large truck tires. True and balance on the truck and all is like glass at all speeds. If in the San Antonio area, PM me and I will give you the only know shop here. Oh, heck it is Southwest brake and alignment.
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I have had wheel balance trouble that came and went on different roads. If it rides smooth on smooth roads and seems out of it on not so smooth roads it could be balance. Rough on smooth roads with passenger seat shaking is rear balance or drive shaft, Did the dealer check to see if tires out of round? Even discount tire has replace a Michelin for me that my independent on the truck balance shop said was to far out to even true. Discount agreed. Just hunting here. Hope solved soon.
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Dang Good question. I think they would be the same but??? One could call around. I got mine from 4 wheel parts. Could not find the '14. would need to call. http://www.4wheelparts.com/Lift-Kits-Suspensions-Shocks/Shock-Absorbers.aspx?t_c=1&t_s=90&t_pt=3306&Manufacturer_PQ=Bilstein&kw=bilstein%205100 Toll-Free: 800-257-5629
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Do u have 20s on or 18s? I could not get 20s on my 900 with Z-71. Claimed it would ride too rough. I would not wait for manna from GM. Really, go online and fine the best deal you can on Bilsteins 5100s. Get your independent repair guy to put them on. May not fix the problem but your ride will not be harsh. Not sure where you live, but look/ask about for some wheel/brake/suspension place (ask the truck aftermarket guys in your area) that can true and spin balance the tires on the truck. Most places, esp dealers and even joints like discount with road force cannot get a good balance on wheels/tires. If you can find a place that balances drive shafts let them drive it. Probably square tires. Not sure why C T 77 mention a shim on the motor mount. Maybe he can explain.
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Rain403, my 09 CC 4x4 5.3 was I think 15 and 21 on the window. At 52000 miles my dic shows an over all average of 17.0. I am about 50/50 hwy/city and do a lot of pasture slow roll that hurts mpg. The best hwy by manual method (filling up at same pump etc) has been around 19 at 75mph. So I would figure the window mpg to be a couple mpg off on hwy and maybe one off for city. Maybe some one can do a normal city 25 mile best reading for you.
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with that type of short drive your mpg will never be good. Make sure to get some long open road miles and use BG 44k every 20,000 or so.
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Would think most of the loss is from the tires?? Did you use the DIC for the #s and/or check it at the pump?
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Agree. I have driven my friends Ford and the shifter is a pain. I do not mind it in my cars. In the truck a column shifter just works better and gives more usable space.
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I think you are correct. GM will only sell about 6-700,000 of them a year.
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One cannot really see it unless you bend down and look for it. The tundra's have it much higher on the door and you can barely notice it. My 09 has many chips all the way up to the lower door trim. Have tried 3m and it will discolor, show dirt around the edges and guess what it to will chip/tear/gouge when hit with the rocks thrown by tires. I wish the no-chip was all the way up to the trim and behind the rear tires.
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If you run much on non-paved roads it is great. The no chip paint is barely visible while standing (two or so inches high in area) and looks a hell of a lot better than the rocker paint on my 09. That would be the look of a shot gun blast to the rockers. Paint chips by the hundreds. I would prefer the toya application of up to the belt line. I do agree that there are things that I do not like about the over all truck but the little bit of no chip rocker finish is not one.
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Same here. Just finished looking at the GMC and Chevys (dealer side by side and closed so I got to really look). I just do not like the lines of the crew cab cabin. The door sizes and shapes look distorted to me like the tundras. I think the double cab will be the better looking truck. The front end is massive from head on. And I really do not like the hot to touch, dull looking bed rail covers. And you cannot remove as they have many thru the rail clamp holes. The carpet liners will be hard to keep looking sharp if you are into clean rides. Under the hood is not very impressive unless you like yards of plastic covers. The oil dip stick is now at the back left of the engine and a very hard reach for me at 6' 4". Some folks will need a step to reach or maybe a long left hand reach while dripping oil. The inside was ok. Very industrial looking center stack and plug outlets. 900s SLT/LTZ dash is much better. Moving the B-pillar forward 2 inches allows you to get your foot in easier in the rear door. But the b-pillar is now in play for longer legged front seat folks. I guess I will go to Justin at Blackbear for my 09 as all I seem to like about the new ones is more T/Q and H/P. Edit: And yes these trucks are way more expensive than the 900s. Something close to my 09 CC slt 4w dr z-71 will be about $2-3,000 more. But they do have more tricks on them. A non-nav fully loaded 900 slt 4wdr z-71 at say $46,000 will not happen in this new truck.
