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That would be an interesting test. That's what our last discussion in this thread was on though: ride quality. You attributed it to a changing spring rate or stiffened spring, i think it's simply the shock itself combined with the change in geometry of suspension. At stock application the spring is compressed by the weight of the truck. Move the snap ring the displacement and spring rate stay the same and truck's height moves as a result. This is because the only force weighing on the spring is the truck itself once mounted. We're both agreeing in the method of lifting, just disagree in what causes this "stiffness or bad ride quality" people are complaining about at max height. Which it's beyond me why i'm arguing i actually quite enjoy my 5100s at max height lol. Take the 7000mt just like the 5100, both lift about 2", both use the OEM spring to do so. Yet it supposedly rides softer than the bilstein from the only review i've found. Now i have no anecdotal evidence to prove his statement. Take your ranchos and put them on the highest ride quality setting and tell me if it compares to the harshness of your old 5100s. http://www.wranglerforum.com/f274/rancho-7000-mt-shocks-253720.html#post3939515 "The 5100's and 7000's are pretty much the same shock. Same type of valving, but to reduce the harshness that a lot of people complain about- Rancho opted for less PSI. 75-100 psi is a big difference as far as harshness. Imo, If you "like" the 5100's. you will "love" the Rancho's" All that said i don't find my 5100s to be rough of course some might. Do i feel my stock ranchos were softer on pavement? Yup sure do but they were just that: a pavement shock. Going off road with those things or even a bumpy road was pretty annoying.

Yes that was my point.The displacement of the spring is the same if it weren't there would be no lift. Once mounted to the truck the only thing compressing the spring is the weight of the truck itself. Hence the term preload. I think we're agreeing about the same thing. Maybe I misread your statement, didn't meant to come off offensive i thought we were getting into that "beating the horse" topic again. Pretty much, which is weird because i couldn't find any coil spacers for these trucks yet there are plenty for every other manufacturer.

Where did I state that it makes the shock longer? I never said such. I was letting Marino know it doesn't change the length of the shock. It only compresses the coil more on the strut. Once the strut is mounted the displacement of the spring is the same, since the weight of the truck is the only thing compressing the spring once mounted. We've been over this.

No the snap rings are directly correlated to lifting the front end. I had 3" of rake on my sierra. I got 1.85" of lift in the front. Here is how it turned out.

Maybe it's stock, .5, .75, and 1.85"? Idk i can't remember

I think the second to highest notch is 1.75" IIRC. Though I love mine on 1.85. And got exactly that much height in the front. I will agree small bumps it bunny hops over but the larger ones like rail road tracks and turn roads on the farm it glides through. Speed bumps are just speed bumps to me but I ease over. But hey depending on your need you might not need max height. My little brothers friend just got a 2015 black crew cab Chevy LTZ and he only needs maybe an inch in the front if that to be level. Best to measure. My truck is perfect to me. I have an inch of rake for towing, it looks level to the naked eye, and rides better than my ranchos or my brothers 2" spacer kit.

Lol man that bothers me. What in the hell kind of name is that if the height of the truck hasn't been adjusted at all. They might as well have called it the "leveled edition" I'd be just as dumbfounded.

Wonder why they call it elevation edition? I was assuming it came leveled or lifted.

So what separates the elevation edition from others? I mean I realize it sits higher but how do they achieve it? Spacers? shocks? Body lift?

Damn i love method wheels!

Meh I like the bullbar especially on a lifted truck. You guys forgot to put in your opinion it ruins it...

My buddy got the AT3s but he isn't a really a truck guy so i doubt he can tell me how they handle. Everyone has KO2s, solid AT, good wear, great looking tire as well. But as you said pricey. I'd save 40$ a tire between the K02s and grab 285/55/20 Toyo ATIIs

Agreed it does look good.

GTALLDAY has similar Moto wheels like that on his iridium build and it looks quite good, i'm just wild about the Shiny-ness. http://www.gm-trucks.com/forums/user/129441-gtallday/

accident double post.

I forgot you had mentioned you had 18s. I'm not sure what the offset is on those but I'm pretty positive 285/65/18 will fit even without level. with level I would probably try 305/65/18.

What wheels are you looking at Asells? I'm looking at method NV or Mesh just can't decide on color. On one hand i think i'm going to go machined face and on the other black. Then if i want something a little lighter powder coat them grey/black.

34" diameter max but you will need to make sure you can fit that first. Thickness is going to be entirely based on offset i wouldn't venture over 11.5" of width for the stock rims which are +27mm offset. 295/70/18 is likely pushing it. But you can always trim or pull the fender lining up to clear room. The real issue is at full lock do they rub the UCAs or sway bar?

Iphone didn't do that day justice. Should've gotten the DSLR

Want to see more pics as well lucky.

Huntster that is a beautiful truck man. To post images hit the image tab and copy a direct link from your photobucket and paste.

Lucky you just made me want black rims again instead of machined face! That looks great!

Thinking i'm going to go method NV machined face, and if i don't like it i'll have them powder coated black. Or vice versa get them black and have them powder coated anthracite or matte grey if i don't like it. Looking at the link turns out these were powder coated Wish i could buy those NVs from method looking just like that.

4" lift and 295/60/20 terra grapplers