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Multi-pro Tailgate Flaw
GMCShack replied to DianaNeal39's topic in Troubleshooting, Warranty & Recalls
You can buy bed or tailgate seal from a few different manufacturers in bulk rolls from 10' to 100' for about $2 to $3 per foot if you really want to completely seal it from water or dust. My GMC dealer offered a tailgate seal which they sell for the gap between the bottom of the bed and bottom of the tailgate when I bought my GMC tonneau cover for my 2019 Sierra Denali with Multi-Pro tailgate, but I refused as I wanted any water that may be present in the bed to drain out there as designed. None of my other trucks (Ford, GMC or Chevy) ever had a tailgate seal and they all got some very minor amount of water in them when I went through a car wash but not otherwise, and it was easily wiped dry with a towel. However my 2005 Tahoe SUV did have a seal around the rear tailgate door and did not let water, dust or even air in it. This is not a design flaw and GM will not be changing it but instead will leave it up the end user to add whatever bed or tailgate seal they prefer, or not, as they and all other truck manufacturers always have for nearly 100 years. -
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2019 CTB
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Replaced Chrome caps with matching painted ones
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What did you pay for your truck?
GMCShack replied to fishingtruck's topic in 2019-2026 Silverado 1500 & Sierra 1500
No, I understand perfectly. First, the dealership gets kickback money for all loans that they sell, but they must stay open at least 90 or for 3 full payments, whichever occurs first. If the loan is paid off as in a refi, they lose that money, commonly a fixed amount of $500, but these deals vary by the state due to financing laws and if not also between the manufacturer and dealership based upon the volume of sales or something similar. The dealership made a deal with me to pay my interest for 3 months if I took $1500 financing rebate/bonus/incentive which also came off the price of my vehicle, lowering my taxes, by adding that amount to my trade, lowering my purchase price which the taxes are based upon except in Montana, Alaska, New Hampshire, Delaware, and Oregon, where there is no sales tax. So all total I got another $500 off on top of the $1500 financing rebate. GM Financial loans are not technically tied to any rebates, bonus, incentive cash, or other such deals, and they normally do not have pre-payment penalties. They technically cannot do anything unless you signed an agreement outside of the GM Financial loan documents. My agreement is not in the loan documents, my dealer paid my finance charges which lowered my taxes so I would qualify for the $1500 financing incentive and they would get their $500 kickback for selling the loan. It was a win-win deal for both of us. I don't know how much the finance manager gets personally, but the dealership gets a total of $500 to distribute as they please I suppose. Probably nothing to the salesman since he is not in the room when the financing deal is done and gets his commission on the sale of the vehicle anyway. I also have FREE lifetime oil, filter, lube, and tire rotation/balancing deal that I have to go back to that same dealer to receive, so I don't want to screw them (or anyone else) out of $500 or any other amount of money and expect them to be happy about it. I don't operate that way anyway, they were very good to me, always have been, and they have a great reputation in the community. Model year and summer clearance deals are everywhere now and they will change rapidly from state to state and from dealer to dealer. I will not be following or replying to any further posts in this forum, as "How much did you pay" is no longer relevant to me in any way whatsoever as this topic has now officially been beaten to death. Good luck everyone and may you get the best deal possible for you. Peace. -
What did you pay for your truck?
GMCShack replied to fishingtruck's topic in 2019-2026 Silverado 1500 & Sierra 1500
That all depends upon your finance interest rates which are based upon your credit scores, etc. You have to do the math to see if it works for you or not. I intended to buy cash deal, but GM offered $1500 finance incentive to take out a loan with GM Financial. The interest rate was high even though I have excellent credit, so I paid $50,000.00 on first payment which was maximum online payment amount, then paid all but a few hundred dollars 30 days later, and paid off entire balance on day 91 so I would not lose the GM $1500 finance incentive which cost me a hundred bucks or so in interest, but the dealership finance manager added $300 to my trade to cover that and I paid less taxes that way as well. YMMV -
What did you pay for your truck?
GMCShack replied to fishingtruck's topic in 2019-2026 Silverado 1500 & Sierra 1500
GM Financial loans are simple interest loans with no prepayment or refinance penalty of any kind, in any state, but if you get a GM Finance rebate or finance bonus cash or finance incentive cash, you must keep the loan for at least 90 days or you forfeit that GM Finance “bonus” money. -
What did you pay for your truck?
GMCShack replied to fishingtruck's topic in 2019-2026 Silverado 1500 & Sierra 1500
Lucky you being a resident of Montana, but like most places, they usually get you somewhere it seems, other than maybe Montana. You can take the GM Finance deal and transfer the loan after 91 days with no penalty other than 3 months interest and keep the $1,000 finance bonus which would lower the taxes for the rest of us. Alaska, Delaware, New Hampshire, and Oregon also have no sales taxes. There is a reason that Montana LLC's are so popular, but it can cost you if you are not a resident and get caught by your home state when they add on fines, penalties, and interest for not paying the vehicle tax in your home state. -
“Climate Control Off” message?
GMCShack replied to FirstAscent's topic in Troubleshooting, Warranty & Recalls
Wow, opposite experience for me, Wyler would not come down from msrp other than same rebates everyone got, told me “these new 2019 GMC trucks were so hot we can sell them for any price we want, as matter of fact they sell themselves.” I told them that at least 2 other dealers were coming down around 10% off msrp and they laughed at me and said I “better jump on that deal but it was not going to happen ar Wyler.” Okay. Chesrown not only beat the other out of town deal I had working but threw in a couple of extras and gave $3,000 over the best price quote I had received for my trade which I did not mention until after I had best price on my new truck. I was prepared to pay cash and just sell my truck myself and had a written quote from Carmax for close to what I wanted already, but Chesrown wanted to keep my business, and that they did. They are all friendly as heck with me when I come in for my free oil changes, parts or accessories. Wyler is from Cincinnati and maybe they treat customers better there, but not around Columbus where they have a bad reputation with everyone I know, the exact opposite of the reputation that Chesrown has around the north side. Dan Tobin Chevy GMC Buick was as bad as Wyler, or worse, no price break on 2019 GMC Sierra Denali and low ball price for trade, didn’t return phone calls, never again for them. I should have just stayed with Chesrown in the first place and saved time and money while staying as happy as I have ever been with a car dealer, plus they are within ten minutes from me, what was I thinking? -
“Climate Control Off” message?
GMCShack replied to FirstAscent's topic in Troubleshooting, Warranty & Recalls
Hello from the other side of Columbus! I’m glad Chesrown Chevy GMC Buick in Delaware does not treat me that way, especially since I have lifetime oil, filter, lube, tire rotation and balance from them that is not transferable. Wyler does not have the best reputation anyway, but I would talk to someone at GM about the experience to see what they say. Then find a way to get them to say in an email that your added accessories do not invalidate your warranty in any way whatsoever so you have documentation to back up their words and your warranty. You paid a lot of money to have a dealership employee declare your warranty invalid due the installation of some minor accessories, and then be threatened that way. I’m sure GM does not want that word spreading whether Wyler cares about their reputation or not. Maybe you start your conversation with the general manager or owner before you go to GM, but somehow you have to protect your investment and without threats from employees. Just my 2 cents worth and good luck! Keep us posted. -
What did you pay for your truck?
GMCShack replied to fishingtruck's topic in 2019-2026 Silverado 1500 & Sierra 1500
In my experience they won't do much if anything on a demo. A dealer once gave me a better deal on brand new with 50 miles (most were by me) than they wanted for exact same demo with almost 4,000 miles. They have usually been driven hard and put away wet because people are doing test drives and employees drive the heck out of them, then they are sold "as new" later, and usually no extension to the manufacturers' warranty. You can always get an extended warranty for a price, but I would stay away from "demos' and just buy a good, low mileage used vehicle for cheaper if going that route. Hard to beat deals at Everett Buick GMC in Bryant, Ark where I once knew one of the managers before he passed away. Laura Buick GMC in Collinsville, IL (near St Louis, MO) is a pretty good volume dealer located in that part of the world with good prices as well. -
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What did you pay for your truck?
GMCShack replied to fishingtruck's topic in 2019-2026 Silverado 1500 & Sierra 1500
Heard a few folks getting great deals this Memorial Day Weekend, great news guys. I had to buy a new car unexpectedly Saturday due to a fender bender that totaled the wife's car last week, long story. Anyway, we got over 20% off on a brand new 2019 Nissan Rogue SL with tons of features, free 3-year maintenance plan (oil, lube, filter plus tire rotation and balance), and they had free food BBQ going on! I sprung for the 10-year/150k extended warranty plan for $1499.00 added to the 36-month 0.0% loan with disappearing deductible. I must have been high on the BBQ sauce. Anyway, it is what she wants, her 3rd Nissan in a row and she is happy, and a happy wife makes a happy life! Have a safe Memorial Day Weekend out there guys and please do not text and drive. Peace. -
Wow, that LTZ Redline is a beauty, obviously well taken care of as it should be. That's the kinda truck people like to admire and ask questions that make you know you have something special. Thanks for posting and thanks for joining us. Please feel free to post more nice pictures, ask questions, or show off your bling (accessories). Welcome!
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VIN Decoder & RPO Codes
GMCShack replied to 2016 Sierra Owner's topic in 2014-2018 Silverado 1500 & Sierra 1500
I removed the picture showing your complete VIN, but it appears to be for a 2017 Chevy Silverado. You might ask the Moderators to remove the others if you have concerns. My 2019 GMC Sierra Denali does not have the 2nd label on the left as in the picture, only the one on the right. I looked for other places on my truck and could not find one, so I looked in here. Cannot tell if yours has remote start or not, try submitting your VIN number like I did to get the rundown on included features. I opened a live chat session at gmc.com and input my name, VIN and email address. The Build Sheet was posted into my chat within 1 minute. I also requested an email copy of the chat be sent to me by selecting the "+" symbol just to the left of the conversation box and was asked for my email address to send a copy of the chat which I received as soon as the chat ended. So that method still works, they only asked if I was the owner, and for my full name and email address, then the information came within seconds after responding. I was also told "If you wish to get a hard copy of this information. You visit https://www.gmheritagecenter.com/. Be informed that this may incur an out of pocket expense for the conservation cost and shipping fee." It came in the following format (cut way down) just so you see an example of what is on the Build Sheet: Vehicle Information: VIN: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Model: TK10543-2019 SIERRA 1500 CREW CAB 4WD Order Number: XXXXXX Gross Vehicle Weight: 3223 Build Date: 02/20/2019 Option Codes: 0ST VAA/COMPONENT REL FRONT SEAT ROW 1SZ OPTION PACKAGE DISCOUNT A2X SEAT ADJUSTER, DRIVER 10-WAY POWER INCLUDING LUMBAR ATH KEYLESS OPEN AND START BGP SAFETY PACKAGE II BTV REMOTE START CF5 POWER SUNROOF CWM TECHNOLOGY PACKAGE * HD SURROUND VISION * REAR CAMERA MIRROR * MULTI-COLOR HEAD-UP DISPLAY DEZ MIRRORS, OUTSIDE HEATED POWER-ADJUSTABLE, POWER-FOLDING AND DRIVER-SIDE AUTO-DIMMING DRZ REAR CAMERA MIRROR, INSIDE REARVIEW AUTO-DIMMING ENL ENG CONTROL DISABLE START/STOP F48 CHASSIS DRIVE LINE-FOUR WHEEL DRIVE(4WD) G1W WHITE FROST TRICOAT JHD HILL DESCENT CONTROL JL1 TRAILER BRAKE CONTROLLER, INTEGRATED K4C WIRELESS CHARGING MCR USB PORTS, 2, SD CARD READER WITH AUX JACK NQH *2-SPEED AUTOTRAC TRANSFER CASE WITH OFF-ROAD MODE PDJ DRIVER ALERT PACKAGE II * FORWARD COLLISION ALERT * LANE KEEP ASSIST WITH LANE DEPARTURE WARNING * LOW SPEED FORWARD AUTOMATIC BRAKING * FRONT PEDESTRIAN BRAKING * QK2 MULTIPRO TAILGATE SAF TIRE CARRIER LOCK T3U FOG LAMPS, FRONT, LED UD5 FRONT AND REAR PARK ASSIST, ULTRASONIC UKJ FRONT PEDESTRIAN BRAKING VLQ CHROME FRONT RECOVERY HOOKS VTI SHUTTERS-FRONT GRILLE, ACTIVE, VV4 4G LTE WI-FI (R) HOTSPOT (SUBJECT TO TERMS SEE ONSTAR.COM) Z45 CHASSIS PACKAGE-CONTINUOUS DAMPING CONTROL -
What did you pay for your truck?
GMCShack replied to fishingtruck's topic in 2019-2026 Silverado 1500 & Sierra 1500
Agreed, best I have heard was $14k off msrp for a loaded SLT, but $75 doc fee is unbeatable. Grab that baby if it is exactly what you are looking for otherwise make them find one, no regrets. Sign up for mygmrewards.com and get a boatload of points that are worth double during the month of May only, good for parts, service, and accessories for any vehicle. There should be 0% for 72 months financing through GM Financial still going at least through the end of May. Good luck! -
What did you pay for your truck?
GMCShack replied to fishingtruck's topic in 2019-2026 Silverado 1500 & Sierra 1500
I do that all the time, prices scare the beejesus outta me, then I realize Canadian dollars, not US. -
What did you pay for your truck?
GMCShack replied to fishingtruck's topic in 2019-2026 Silverado 1500 & Sierra 1500
My finance rebate requires that you keep loan in good standing for minimum of 3 months before you can transfer, payoff or otherwise terminate their loan or you lose the incentive deal. I paid $50k (maximum online payment amount) to GM Financial on 1st payment and left $500 after 2nd payment, then called for exact payoff amount on day 91 to pay off loan in full as interest is compounded daily, but there are no early payoff penalties. If I were paying loan over long term I would switch to Credit Union rate which is as low as 2.990% with a $250 refinance bonus on top of that. If could have still got the $250 bonus if I wanted to go to the effort My Federal Credit Union offers auto loan applications to anyone who lives, works, worships or attends school in Franklin, Licking, Fairfield, Pickaway, Madison, Union, Delaware or Morrow County in the state of Ohio. Let me know if you are interested and I will hook you up. -
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What did you pay for your truck?
GMCShack replied to fishingtruck's topic in 2019-2026 Silverado 1500 & Sierra 1500
I walked in prepared to write a check for full amount of previously negotiated best deal with Costco price, rebates, dealer incentives, etc, but when they said I could get $1000 more off by financing at least $10k at some jacked up interest rate of only 7% or so, I jumped on it. F&I Manager offered an even better deal, finance full amount at even higher interest rate with $1000 down and he could get me $1500 off final negotiated price and they would take cost of financing the loan for 4 months off the price. He computed interest on the loan for 4 months with equal payments made each month and subtracted that amount rounded up from my price, then refigured the loan amount and payments so I was coming out ahead on both ends. I made a $50k payment online (maximum amount allowed) as soon as I got paperwork from GM Finance and paid all but $500 in next “early” payment, then called for payoff amount after 90 days total loan days as required for finance incentive, paid that amount and made even more money off my deal. Don’t do this type deal if you do not have the money and if they don’t “pay” the interest by lowering price to cover it, and most of all you must make those payments for as much and as early as possible to sweeten the deal for yourself. It could even help your credit rating. As always YMMV. -
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