Chuck FB

You certainly didn't miss out on anything with their regular price, just a fluke they happened to have a sale on them just to piss me off LOL. Certainly not worth 20.00 for a special trip and find they don't have any as their tracking of what the store website says they have and what they actually have are pretty sad at times and part of that is there system and part of it is certain items that walk out under someone elses power. Some of what Princess will have in the way of scan tools are there because they are out of date and on their way out, not made anymore etc and probably got a smoking deal on them to flog off. The 508 isn't there yet in that category though.

I had bought my TS508WF from Napa and I got a little off of it so it was 325.00, then early this month Princess puts it on sale for 280.00 and actually that sale ends tomorrow as per April 20th. However with Princess you can either possibly get a raincheck if they don't have one in stock or if you have that sale catalogue you can typically walk in after the sale and point to the price in your catalogue and they will sell it for that price. The regular price at Princess is 400.00 so that was a crap price. Good question about the 501 vs the 508, I am guessing that the 508WF would be the wifi difference but a regular 508 I have no idea.

My comment won't really be helpful in the sense of repairing power boards but last fall when I ordered my truck and was going through the list of things I wanted as well as making sure certain items were not mistakenly put on the order, the topic of power running boards came up. The salesman's comment when I said I do not want them, just the standard ones that come with this trim of a truck and he said good because they do not work up here in the winter with all the salt that flies around and gets into the motors and ends their life in fairly short order. Of course some people get them as some people want them and not all sales people are going to tell the customer its a bad idea if the vehicle gets used during the winter. They are a fair weather on pavement product ... I've seen those that have gotten their power board to go down and left it unhooked or set in that position so it behaves like a normal bolt on board, also heard power boards making horrible crunchy noises because they drove on a little gravel.

I noticed the tailpipe looks so shiny like it has a chrome/stainless end, but it isn't is it ? These HD trucks with no running board look taller yet than if it has running boards hanging down. Good thing with the trim and package you went with that the wheels have the nice center hubcaps that don't cover over the lug nuts, what a pain those would be to deal with any time one wants to check the wheel lug toque etc and they don't look near as nice as these wheels/hubcaps. Perhaps someone at GM saw this thread and decided to get their butt in gear and get the truck delivered !

If only our township roads were actually paved LOL, they grade them and finally put some much needed gravel on the one past our farm but its a courser gravel they laid down and it seems worse yet for sticking between treads and even on mud tires and flinging rocks like crazy. I am quite surprised with the shallow tread of these goodyear factory tires that they are picking up rocks as bad as they do, granted they can't pick up very large rocks but they sure pick up smaller ones and also retain some of them even after highway speed, I was not expecting that. But I hear you on road chipping, depending on how they went about it the job can be crap and even after its brushed off the chips if not bonded properly are flying and we had that mess happen on a secondary highway in the area within the last few years and that was causing a lot of windshield damage. I don't have any plans on putting wider tires nor rims with a different offset than the factory very positive offset wheels. Going with wider tires and a different offset, the particular part number of flap I bought would not be right. These were made specifically for a stock truck so they center with the tire. If one was changing the wheels/tires then a wider and non pre drilled flap would have to be used to center the flap to the tires. These are 12" wide which is the standard ( narrowest ) width that is made for flaps on these trucks, I think the weathertech said theirs are 12" also.

I had seen a 2022 model truck for sale on the used market on kijiji in this area and it was the same color but it was used after all and it had some missing items I was after as it had no fifth wheel prep but did have the spray in liner as it was a High Country, I think it also had the sun roof and I didn't want that. I saw that ad a year before it sold and not sure if he had it for sale even before that. I never jotted the first price down but it was high, made no sense at all to buy a used truck for what he was asking and then his price dropped some on the next ad and finally months later another ad and a much further reduction in price and I assume it got sold. Something didn't quite sit right with me about the guy selling the truck, I talked to him as well over the phone. But sadly that theme of a gas HD truck dropping in value around here is a real thing vs if one was selling a duramax. Yes that seems odd that such a setup is not being used to paint all the colors ( I often use the US spelling ! ), there was some other color as well I think that Oshawa was not using for the trucks. So there is Flint painting all the colors, doesn't make sense to me but must make sense to them with their system.

I agree with that statement, flaps like this are not needed nor desired for trucks that don't plan on doing much if any gravel driving. Because of the set back bend and that would apply to the other brands out there made very similar, the road crap plasters into the fender and runs behind the metal portion of the flap and down onto that flat area and then oozes off of that down the flap. Also and maybe not a big deal but it was rather surprising how heavy a box of a 4 flap kit to do a truck weighed, it was not a feather weight box. Flaps like those Weathertech or Husky that are made from a thin material would weigh a fraction of thick rubber flaps or rubber/metal combo flaps. While this statement may be rather biased by BulletProof themselves, he claimed that some of his customers who trade trucks often and are using them in the oil patch and bought the same model of truck each time have taken their flaps off and put it on the next truck and so on to save on the cost of having to buy new flaps each time. A set of these is just over 500.00 at the manufacture level, then aftermarket shops put a markup on them as they have to pay for shipping costs as well and it becomes a 575.00 or so flap kit. I believe gatorback is sold through the GM aftermarket accessory system and I think they are charging 1000.00 for a set of what is very similar to these. All mind blowing, for a set of mud flaps !.

You should get a tracker put on the truck ( unless the trucks system is on and its being tracked ) and see how many states and dealer locations and startups to unload and reload it does by the time it reaches your dealer.

At the time I never thought to ask how far he really searched, if he did search Canada wide or for all I know he could have searched just between the dealers that are tied to that dealership as I was not seeing the screen when he did this search. However I tried what seems to be the useless GM website search and that went nowhere either. How many things he plugged into the search is a good question as I don't know what the dealerships search gives them for criteria to narrow down a search. At the time there would have only been so many 2025 models around to choose from and the rest being 2024 which I at least expressed to search for given the discounts at the time on the outgoing model year. From the searching I had looked prior right on various dealer websites in western Canada, I don't know if I even saw a High Country gas truck as diesel is the theme in a big way when it comes to higher end HD trucks. I had a color preference and engine, not sure if the double alternator/double battery was stuck in there and the fifth wheel prep and standard box. He said its a unicorn and I really didn't expect him to say different given the list of what I said to him even though I don't know what of it all he stuck into the search. Had I been after a diesel I expect there would have been more trucks close to my spec choices out there as in theory more of them would have a fifth wheel prep etc. Oh and as I discovered just the other day and I think I had mentioned that elsewhere on this forum, my color choice automatically forced it to be a Flint build but he never said anything about that aspect and commented after that a lot of their trucks come from Flint. But yes, my color put me in the Flint only line even though I had no idea it was that way at the time, as I even assumed it would come from Oshawa, well that was wrong thinking on my part. Even at the time of my finalizing the deal when the truck came in the salesman kept on calling it a duramax in comment to other staff as it just went to show how the high end trims were almost exclusively diesel trucks around this area. I would not doubt that GM even knew how it would confuse customers by creating the "Allison 6.6" hood plates and I could honestly tell someone I have a 6.6 Allison truck and they would probably assume its a diesel.

The other day washing my truck and its not that its even been plastered yet since driving it off the lot but there was a bit of dust and crud in the gas tank filler area so because of that plumbers cap firmly on the filler I flipped open the filler access cover and gave it a quick wash with the spray held back so its not intense. After I pulled out of the wash and had it parked I pulled the rubber cover and not a sign of moisture around the filler flap. I am so used to taking fuel caps off of everything to fill that its second nature and its so easy to do with this rubber cap and it sits nice in the pocket area of the filler area when gassing up.

Its always good to walk out of the dealership with a small victory and the liners of your front pockets in your jeans not turned inside out !

I ran a bug deflector from new for many years on what is now an old truck ( the deflector is still on the truck although not for any good reason I can come up with ! ) and it accomplished two positive things, it kept any bugs from hitting the leading edge of the hood so instead the bug deflector was all plastered with bugs, and would have prevented road salt/sand or a possible rock from hitting the leading edge of the hood. Did it keep rocks from hitting my windshield *laughs*, did it prevent bugs of all sorts from hitting the windshield from top to bottom and becoming sticky bug splatter *laughs*. Put another way, on the truck I just bought I had a company put paint protection film on the front area of the hood and A pillars and upper portion of the front fenders for protection from people leaning over the tall fenders trying to work on the truck and that includes myself. I also had them install it on the lower grill surround as its painted as well as the painted front bumper as they all take damage from that salt/sand that flies on the roads up here in western Canada. On a hood that is as high as this HD Chev is for judging what is closer in front, anything sticking up at the front isn't going to help that situation at all. Mostly what that old bug deflector did was prevent me from sweeping off the engine hood from snow as easy. Many people up here get the plastic film applied to the front of their vehicle, its costs a lot but its protecting the front from being literally sand blasted with wet sand/salt flying off of vehicles coming from the opposite way. Our windshields literally get sand blasted over time and that includes semi truck windshields that I own as the sand slop flies that high up in the air. Bug deflectors are a small area of protection and if one likes the look of it that's great. But deflecting bugs and sand or rocks so they won't hit the windshield, I'll admit it was a good marketing ploy. I live out in a rural area and its all gravel roads out here and the key to vastly lowering the risk of getting smacked with a rock while driving gravel roads is to slow right down and move to the right when a vehicle is coming from the opposite way because otherwise your vehicle is literally driving right into the rock that the other vehicle flung up. Also if you see your going to get passed on a gravel road from behind, slow up some with your brakes to warn them and to force them to slow down a bit and then move over and really slow down once they have moved to the left and are about to pass. Those practices drastically reduced the odds of rock damage when on gravel. Unfortunately driving on pavement, that is where we get most of our hits because gravel gets tracked onto the pavement and there is no way of knowing where that random rock might be that another vehicle will go over and happen to fling up. Having a decent set of mud flaps that have good tire coverage goes a long ways, if everyone had mud flaps on their vehicles ( and like a semi/trailer legally has to have although some run theirs up way too high ) , that would help reduce damage to other peoples vehicles. There's my two worthless Canadian cents worth of thoughts

This thread has been a bit of an exploration of a few topics but has been blended with mudflaps for the last couple of pages, it wouldn't be my fault would it LOL. I thought the rear wheel wells of those trucks I looked at today had liners although I can't claim that with 100 percent certainty. The front definitely has the liners since that is the way the truck is designed. But as to what I stated about these units only fitting on the standard length factory splash guard bolt on pieces, that I am sure of as they look exactly like the factory pieces on the rear of each wheel well as the ones I pictured of my truck with the kick back style flaps I decided to buy are through a non GM outfitter as they are popular here in part because they "Bullet Proof" brand are made in Alberta but a few companies out there make their own version of a similar thing. If you had a chance give them a call and quote those weathertech part numbers and see if they even handle them and if so what feedback you can get through them, and if they do fit on a rear wheel liner truck ( and he can confirm about which GM factory rear splash guard its designed for ). You will soon find out if its an item they even bring in. Here its a popular thing to put mud flaps of some sort on a pickup front and rear unless its a city dweller that never goes off the pavement, same with running boards to try and protect the rocker panels from rocks and also assists in preventing some mud spray up the body sides.

I was at the dealer today and noticed a couple of customer 2500 trailboss trucks sitting in the parking lot and both of them had those same flaps I mentioned that I had seen in the show room on a trail boss. So I went to parts to inquire what the story was as per who makes them and it is he claimed weathertech and gave me the part numbers of the front and rear sets respectively. From what I see they are only meant to fit onto the standard length factory splash guard and they do not look the same as the ones weathertech puts up in their photo. As I mentioned before they are thin so very little to them and they use the stock holes for hardwear. I have no idea how they perform but they do have that factory fit look to them so they don't look out of place. I had him print off a quote with the part numbers and Canadian prices but a search of these flaps show US prices and they can be bought as a kit of four for a bit of a savings it would appear like also. I don't know if this is just a random dealer thing that they stock them and probably at a higher price but sometimes it can surprise with some items they sell a lot of through the dealer. Front set 110118 weathertech part number and 130.00 CAD Rear set 120118 weathertech part number and 130.00 CAD Again definitely not cheap in Canada for what there is and I didn't have a camera on me to take a photo but if someone likes that style of no drill flap, this is a starting point to dig into it further to get your eyes on these actual units rather than all the generic photos that get put up on the weathertech site.

I was mistakenly picturing the truck being used in the more southern states where frost isn't an issue on roads. Having said that, this is 18 years ago I would have been on the stretch of interstate 40 between Petrified Forest National Park and Kingman and then it seemed quite fine. Of course things can change a lot in that many years and your speaking of a section I had not been on. Also I guess highways in general I have been on in various of the lower 49 united states during that time and prior, I never happened to encounter anything that was was bad. However Alaska as per west of Whitehorse to Tok was another story LOL. So that goes back to my initial thought of doing some measuring and a visual of the space at the jounce bumpers and if they look beat up. Also to see if there is any leaking showing up on the shocks or rubber bushing eyes getting beat up and loose. Good to know some tint is legal in Arizona, however due to your drive across several states makes it a tough one as not all states would see it the same way and "look the other way". The particular company that supplied the tint to the outfit that applied it, in what they called a ceramic film which of course is more expensive, the two tints they were mentioning were 35 and 55 percent and that company didn't make one in between. I saw a truck with 55% they had done and while it certainly was there it also wasn't anything that jumped out as dark at all. Their claim was that the ceramic film was far better in heat rejection p;performance with light shades of tint over a traditional type of film, I just went on their recommendation since I don't know much about tint and put on the 35% but still have not driven the truck in the dark with it.

Low miles and if you haven't hit the frost heave highways I can't see the front end having had a hard life at all. Never the less it would be interesting as to what the factory set your height at and if even from side to side. The other day I saw a HD pickup ahead of me on the highway and holy crap did that thing have a lean to the drivers side, reminded me of a pickup I bought new years ago and it had that crazy lean. My new truck didn't stand out as leaning from the back but the measuring tape sure showed the front end was leaning and the jounce bumper gap difference confirmed that. It will be interesting to hear what the fellow who on here is putting the ZR2 lift on his truck with the cognito bars, what his ride impression is after although there are a lot of mods with different shocks and so forth though and different sized tires, so hard to compare. On another thread we were talking about the legality of aftermarket window tint on the drivers/passenger windows as officially its not legal here in Alberta. Is it legal in Arizona due to the extreme heat ( but I know, its a dry heat LOL ).

LOL, that is no surprise that a few out there would try and pull a fast one but I just don't see how the insurance company would even do that for them as if its not on the insurance as per being a farm vehicle, the licensing branch isn't going to issue a farm plate. Its hard to say as it is possible that magic is happening accounting wise that you can't see that makes it look like he has farm income, even though actively you see nothing. But a small suv with a farm plate, that sounds a little out there. I have to wonder about the flaps I saw and were on all four corners, Husky makes flaps out of thin plastic that are meant to mold to the lines of the existing short splash guards, its possible they were that brand. I wouldn't even know who to ask at the dealership to find out what the story was. I did notice something very odd though on that trail boss, the upper A arm on at least one side was complete rust, like it had never been painted.

I looked up the weathertech and if they showed the correct photo for the chev, that did not look like the ones on that truck at the dealer. I am pretty positive that trail boss had the standard factory length splash guards and then who knows where they got those flaps that had a molded line that fit the profile of the splash guard perfectly. I don't see them as a listed accessory on the chev site, maybe the dealer sourced them from elsewhere and for all I know that truck might have been sold and sitting in the show room like I requested mine to be stored for a few days as it was gone when I picked up my truck.

In Alberta I can't say for sure about true commercial vehicles as per requiring a sticker yet, while I have vehicles that are considered commercial in a sense, my 3500 as well as all other pickups and highway tractors on our farm are farm plated and have a "farm" sticker on them as well as a different number/lettering scheme. I got a letter in the mail from Alberta registries after licensing it and the wording was totally confusing so I called the office as it made it look like I had to get a safety done on it, well that is not what it meant but it meant "if" I was to be hauling something out of province I would need to be running a log book and all of that crap just like a commercial vehicle. The same would apply for our highway tractors and why we have never hauled out of province as its all an expensive hassle. So I said if this truck is out of province it won't be for farm business but being used as transportation or as part of an RV and she said then its fine, not to worry about the warning letter I was sent. Unless one specifically buys a 2500 that has the special under weight GVW ( just under 10000 pounds I believe ? ) most 2500 trucks these days are over that weight class so still fall into the same potential commercial classification anyway. The cheapest license fee in Alberta I believe is for under 5500 pounds but its not much more for vehicles over that and so again with the farm theme all of our highway tractors would be licensed for 140000 lb and that is the same as the fee for my 1 ton truck. If the highway tractors were licensed commercially, I've lost track but its probably over 4000.00 or more a year.

The same crap is going on here too in Canada, how odd that is that both of our countries seemed to be in lock step with how they are handling the criminals ... its like they want them to be out on the streets causing crime. We never used to have tent cities either, that all changed when the liberals got into power 10 years ago and then started handing out free drugs to keep those hooked .... hooked. Oh and on a note about your pickup, I imagine at some point you might want to change the model of the truck you drive as yes I have noticed various ones on here talking about a totally different/newer vehicle than what their description lists although some list past vehicles as well to give a background history.

If I get a ticket I'll let you know, at least then you won't feel quite so bad LOL. For quite a few years now the front side windows do have a slight factory tint as years ago glass was always clear. The side windows in the rear seating area and the rear window have a darker tint although up close can still look into the cab as you know yourself from your own pickup. What these custom tint companies do though for customers who want it is really darken the legally darker factory tinted windows for example and then in the one example they showed me of a truck they just completed that sat outside was 15% tint on the drivers/passengers windows and with the rear windows really dark it just darkened up the interior to even look into the windshield to see who would be inside the vehicle. I said to the owner of the business, doesn't that just scream "Give me a ticket Officer !" and he laughs as he agreed, it did. It looked very nice but that would be asking to be stopped or if stopped for another reason to have that thrown at one as well. I am only guessing in the hot southern states they allow some tint on front side windows ? Speaking of the tag on the license plate for showing its valid for the current year, Alberta did away with that three or more years ago which I imagine means their computer system in their cruisers are able to figure out if its valid etc before they even get out of their vehicle to then ask for the registration, or that is my assumption ?.

I was thinking of traditional mud flaps when you mentioned putting some on, now I see what you were speaking of. What I had seen a bit ago at the dealership on a trail boss that was sitting in the show room were the thin plastic molded units that looked very much like they could have been weathertech but might be GM's answer to that. They were fitted to a truck that came with the standard length splash guards like what your truck had come with from the factory. Unfortunately I don't have a photo of them but thought for some coverage and looking like they were made to be there, that they were a viable option. That safety inspection sticker theme in Alberta is for commercially licensed trucks, nothing is required for a personal vehicle. We don't have annual personal vehicle inspections, only an inspection if buying a used vehicle over I think its 10 years old or if the vehicle is bought out of province no matter how new it was, it requires a one time inspection to licence it in the new province. Do those stickers go on the outside or inside of your glass, inside would really suck if you have tint film on your side windows. Actually its supposed to be illegal in Alberta to have tint on front side windows ( and certainly on the windshield ) but aftermarket companies make their money putting PPF on and window tint. I decided to get some 35 % tint on my drivers/passenger window that isn't insanely dark and hope I don't have an issue with that. I imagine that probably varies from state to state too ?

That would be fantastic if it does, for sure bring this up as warranty to the dealer and see what their response is. Which brings up a comment of what I had just booked my truck to have the dealer deal with and that is the steering wheel is off to the left some. I was physically there at the service desk and said the truck was off like this from the day I bought the truck and so I want to book it in for an alignment to sort it out. What I had not said as I thought it was self explanatory given that my truck has few miles on it, that of course he would book it in as a warranty claim. I thought today, I should just check and make sure and this time I called and happened to be talking to the lady that is the service assistant manager and said I was just checking to make sure it was written up as a warranty claim ... nope, it wasn't by the service adviser. I have a feeling he did that on purpose because the way I explained it he knew it was this way from my purchase of the truck. If a dealer can slip out from a warranty and get money in their hands, they will. Slight of hand actions like that do NOT impress me and yet this is what one seems to have to deal with. Anyway she made the change of status on the booked in work order and she said they do cover it on warranty for the first 12000 km.

Isn't that ridiculous, why 19 states do just fine running one plate and the rest have some issue with one plate, yet the states that have one plate are fine to cross through states that have two plates. The number of provinces/territories in Canada are higher that only require the single plate but you happen to live across from a province that does demand two plates. Politics and logic, it seems hard pressed ever get the two to come together to agree on a common logical agreement. I still wish I had gotten the K03 tires, Chev made it totally unclear as to what the optional tire was and the sales guy claimed for sure it was some off road mud tire ... nope, it was indeed the KO3 of the very same size as your trim comes with as a package. Does that sound right that I think your truck came with the optional longer splash guards by the looks in the photo, I think. Not sure if there are some add on flaps that also work with those as I imagine so , all I know is my aftermarket flaps I bought were designed around the standard length splash guard extensions.

Those are sharp pickups with the red and black. Its easy to tell it does not have the shutters which follows that theme it seems of the snow plow prep. Oh and just donned on me that they would bring them all in with front license plate brackets which few have here as we only require a rear plate.