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Sorry for the long title, but didnt feel like making three threads. 2022 GMC AT4 6.6 gas. Picked in August. 1. I have complained of this truck being a dog, and it is, only quick off the launch. Either way added a pedal commander and the truck and made a world of a difference. Didnt hurt MPG really, and its not a tuner for those that are worried. 2. Installed the lighted GMC grill emblem lots of videos out there on how to do this, but found an easy way, hardest part is getting the emblem off. Either way you need to take the top shroud off on top of the radiator and take the hood latch off on top there is two hex bolts. Get an oscillating tool, with a thin cutting blade. Gently pry back the emblems and you will see the flat fingers that go into the grill, and just cut them off. Be careful doing it, but this is a 5 min job now Honestly your going to break the emblem or something anways. Now just plug it in. 3. Am I missing something? After doing the above job i noticed the truck doesnt have the front end louvers, the little black louvers in front of the radiator that move? Is this truck suppose to have them. my 21 diesel did, different motor I know.

I have a complete set of seat covers for sale off a 21 2500HD. Should fit 20-23 GMC and Chevy and would think all HD trucks, color black. Front bucket seats and rear 60/40 bench with center arm rest. Brand new with 0 miles when taken off. Sell by the piece or all together.

Alot to go through here. With that said the mirrors are to big, they create frontal blind spots specially on the right side when looking right at certain conditions. Great mirrors but GM needs to rething the ergomoics of these. They probably need to be brought in an in or two and shrunk up and down and left to right by another inch or two

Yes this. And true, this is a very slow forum

usually they jump about 1k-2k a year. The issue is for 24 is they will have the 1-2k increase and then the onstar will be added into the base price for 24 from what I read. So same truck before options will be at least 4-5k more from 23 to 24

Have to find the build codes, which a dealer can do. 3400 and 3800 is what you are looking more. Somewhat mispoke, my 3400 was 11JULY, which says thats the day it was loaded into the PC and works its way down the line. My 3800 code is when the vehicle is done was like 16JULY. at least what the dealer can give you, you wont get a date time group by hour or day when it was actually completed. Combined with the fact the codes could be a day or so behind. You are looking at really a week span of when it could have been built.

My 22 was built July 11th and I picked it up 3 weeks later. The 1500 Charge was an option believe that is the case for the23. Read the 24 the cost will be built in. So theoretically the same configured truck in 24 will cost you 2k more than a 23. Crazy thing is with that 24 is that will probably cost about 7-9k more than a 22 before they added the onstar charge.

All in what you want. Never had the 3.o but have had half tons and had a 21 2500 diesel. now a 22 GMC 2500 gas. How much do you haul around weekly in weight? Keep in mind the bigger trucks just dont handle like the 1/2 tons, and they simply cost more to operate and purchase.

gas would be six speed and 3.73s

Well GM is about selling more units and ensuring people actually get the vehicle. If GM waited on complete trucks they would sell a lot less, potentially making it so you wouldnt even have one. Look there isnt no lawsuits. You were told the card didnt have X when you bought, you cant sue for an option that you didnt buy and were notified about.

I had a 21 Midnight edition LT trim. It had a descent look much likes yours. Like I said it has to be color match, if not its fugly.

lol. inspiration was a freight train apparently. Ugliest front end on a truck in a long time. It was ok when color matched grill and bumper.

They are all good trucks TBH year to year you cant go wrong. With that said I have owned all three brands and have HD type trucks with GM and Ford both and here is my opinion. This goes back to 2007 when I bought my first truck and have since had 4 GM trucks, 5 Fords and one ram. A lot of people base their opinions on pre 2000 models or old stuff which isnt really relevent, all of these brands have made major leaps in the last 20 years and in their own ways make good stuff. 1. Ram to me has always won the looks contest and if anything continues to win the innovation awards and option packages, including the paint colors. ram has always been good on the power packs and never seems to be lacking. My one con is the rams to me have just felt and looked cheaper in away. 2. GM makes a solid product and you cant go wrong. GM has always developed power plants that just last, not always the best performance wise, but do work well. My chief complaint with GM is they are 5-7 years behind the other two in lots of ways. My 21 2500 and now 22 GMC AT4 2500 while nice is the same interior that my 2014 silverado had, of which the 14 was only a slight upgrade from my 2007 silverado. GMs optioning packages and how you can order just sucks. 3. After owning them all Ford is just a better truck at the end of the day. Only reason I am in GM is because I get the discount, and this coming from a guy that worked at GM and my whole family has. Drive a Ford for a month and I am talking current as in something from the last 10 years or so you wouldnt buy a GM product.

Funny is the GM seem to refine their front end and kind of go to what Ford looked liked, and Ford went to the ugly block end GM has now. Almost traded places. 6.2 is retiring. But yeah 6.8 or 7.3 not sure why there is two. One will probably go away. What I would to see for the HD is a small block, 5.0, 5.3 twin turbo set up much like fords ecoboost, and something that pushes 500hp 600 Torque. I know people talk reliability with turbos, but the ford line has been pretty stout. The other is smaller displacement diesel something that does 300ish hp and 600 torque but is more fuel efficient. Two reasons you wont see this stuff or a big leap going forward. 1. If the electric stuff holds true which which the real test will be in two years at election time. But if it does companies are not going to invest in new motors. 2. While companies want to provide a cheaper version to power their HD trucks, which good idea thats why I bought it, I also dont think they want their cheaper motor competing with their diesel engines. Its entirely possibly today to put an efficient and reliable 500hp, 600tq motor in an HD with a 10 speed tranny. That set up would make a lot of people think twice on going diesel.

6.4 is a really good motor, been out for 8 years now. But has aluminum parts and coated rods and such.

For sure, but your talking minimal numbers here. And if you look at the dyno numbers of the 5.3 vs 6.6 they are very close. At 2500 the numbers are identical and at 4k-4500rpm the 6.6 is minimally better by 30-40 ft lbs. Again not going to argue longevity between the two, but I can promise you will not notice the difference between the two in practical applications. Only GM puts a motor in a truck that has less juice then the dodge 6.4 that has been out for 7-8 years and the ford 7.3 tremor. Then again GM is usually playing catch up Only hope in the 24 model, GM mates the 6.6 with the ten speed and programs the motor to put out more power, which would probably make the power pack satisfactory or better in class, which as of now its not.

No I get that. But doubt you notice the difference on the average given the performance specs for both. 50hp more isnt doing much

If I was wanting a truck I would probably go into a hold pattern until after Xmas. And if I am putting deposits down they better refundable. The fed just raised the interest rate and some point this bubble has to bust and if you combine that with mild to high gas prices it wont be food for the car companies. Probably wouldn't really see it until spring time, but the conditions are ripe for a downturn in which would drive 23 prices in 6 months and get 24s back on track with incentives. Or things could keep going up

No i get it. But the stability portion has more to do with 3/4 1 ton frame rather than the motor. Put the 5.3 in the HD truck short of longevity you probably wouldnt notice a large difference motor wise. These engines probably have the capability and should be pushing 450-500hp with 500-550 torque

What gets me is the 6.6 is has a minimal advantage over the 5.3 in hp and torque numbers. I get the 6.6 is more HD with the iron block and all but that motor shoud be pushing 450 plus along with the torque.

Yeah I was never a fan of the 5.3 had an 07 and 14, moved onto Ford and Ram after those and which had better motors. While there is some lag I feel, the 6.6 seems strong out the whole, really just mid range sucks bad on the truck. I expected sub par towing experience when towing compared to the duramax, but sort of disappointed in all around performance while not towing. Definitely not as quick and nimble without a load as half ton unloaded.

I guess I have to ask, why?

Id call onstar. The fin on the roof handles onstar items which should be the antenna. I might be wrong but NAV, internet or anything related to onstar is satellite driven and not tower driven.

doubt a short year. With production issues still going on.

Maybe. But i have driven other gas trucks in the past and it seems on par tbh. Just compared to a diesel or half ton its really slow all around.