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Unfortunately, meat packing plants are past that now, so an Executive Order will be signed for these plants to remain open, some have to reopen. The conundrum, an Executive Order can keep the plants open, but to my knowledge, can't force a worker (sick or not) back to work.

Read the Smithfield meat packing plant was an essential "must stay open" business in South Dakota. Employee interviews said they were getting sick and only one arm length apart without appropriate gear for protection. If state gov and the company CEO (or plant manager) would have allowed one of every two employees stay home to recover, the company would have achieved social distancing by default. Their closed "essential plant" would have produced less, but they would have remained open.

You're right, the recommendation to isolate was theirs. The decision to isolate was not. In a scenario like this pandemic, the decision maker can't be concerned with what people think vs following what advisors recommend what is right.

The pandemic was designated as a war, responsibility can't be delegated or relinquished. Doctors and media are not in charge.

The US gov put out an "idea or plan of consideration" for reopening the economy. Got it, folks have to get to work and make a living. It's understandable why we see states reopening the way they interpret their local data or other reasons. To decrease confusion, there should have been "hard" guidelines from the federal gov on preconditions for reopening, the "Guidelines for Opening Up America Again" is just a proposal. There are some states opening that have an increase of cases vs the 14 day proposed federal gov decrease. Tennessee and Georgia come to mind.

I normally like bits and pieces of a post because they ramble on too long. But everything here are good points. As for the virus, there are tons of viruses, most not as deadly as others, but that is not the reason I will sit tight. Lack of satisfactory information and testing on behalf of this virus will cause me to sit tight. Sidebar; I saw a picture of Trump throwing down a box of Clorox chewables, based on the context just thought that was pretty funny.

Good job. Looks like the water flowed down both sides but puddled on the passenger side.

I'm with you here and I wish I could stay in. Not going to happen, not practical. America is throwing large sums of money to get the economy going and putting some 22 million people back to work. Employees back on the job will happen. I don't see maintaining that 22 million, closer to 11 million. In part because social distancing in some businesses will result in 50% less customers. Unless large numbers of consumers see some testing numbers past 1% and or a vaccine is available, they are not going to mingle. Economic recovery from my perspective is not going to be dependent on employees going back to work, it's going to be dependent on if consumers have the confidence to go out and buy.

I have not seen it either, but I still wouldn't discount the shark fin because you know it has been known to leak. If the shark fin is leaking, you were traveling at speed limit, in decent rainy conditions, it could be the shark fin. The only other items attached to the roof is the two top siderails. I believe the lip above the liftglass is welded.

Don't accommodate more than your location can adequately apply social distancing. Golf course, 20. Gun shop, 2. You open both using the same guidelines.

Both should now be looked at the same, just another business in the state easing into opening. Did the gov give a reason why the gun shops are to remain closed?

Wasn't intended as a complaint and I can't speak on another internet test. BioFire admit they are only an emergency use only test recommended by a federal gov agency agency and sent to a federal gov agency. If this is the type of test a federal agency receives, what level of confidence or quality will there be with tests used by state, city, or rural areas? Don't know the right answer and BioFire may be a one-off, but increased testing is the next phase.

The upside, got my hands on some test equipment (BioFire) which can provide a covid 19 test results in 45 minutes, great. The downside, there was a disclosure notice on the equipment; "this test has been authorized by FDA under an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA), however this test has not been FDA cleared or approved and is just authorized through the declared emergency". What was that in layman's terms? Here is a covid 19 test but there is no guarantee it will be accurate, and furthermore, it definitely won't work after the emergency. This company was cleared by the FDA to distribute this equipment. C'mon man

Cities and counties have to contact employers and have them identify those least vulnerable. When the test is available, those employees need to report to the testing location. If they pass the test, they go back to work. Hopefully that will be enough people to keep a business going until the most vulnerable are able to support.

That doesn't make sense to me. With the small number of folks in rural areas, testing a community would be quicker. If a state could centrally locate a piece of testing equipment for the least vulnerable in those communities, that would ease the load on folks with access to less.

How do you test healthy people like what's on this thread, and put them back to work? I don't think it's just a matter of "getting those people to do it is a little slow". How do you get the test to those folks, don't think they would object.

Because the country doesn't have the capacity to test everyone, let's get the economy restarted with the least vulnerable, those without pre-existing conditions. Let's test those folks and put them back to work and see how that goes. It may buy some time to get the most vulnerable tested.

I could give you that answer if you start a "what wars have you been in lately" thread.

True, I can block it. This won't change my comment. After dodging IEDs, 5.56, 7.62, and rounds from grenade launchers, nah, this is not too much.

The grocery store where I shop will only allow seniors in the store the first thirty minutes of opening. I can get my normal cart load of goodies and be out of the store before the younger crowd comes in. Sometimes it's nice to be older.

Playing with the dog on the carpet and began to wonder where would the virus most likely be, on the floor. Couldn't get off the floor fast enough. Now instead of just taking off the shoes in the garage and spraying the top, I now spay the bottom along with the floors in the truck and house.

That was a spin from another post, but point taken.

It may be brought up but I don't see the race card as far as Coronavirus is concerned. Yes the death numbers for African Americans are terribly high, generational genealogy and essential jobs that keep our society moving, exposed them to unprotected areas more often than others. Although the African American numbers are consistently higher per size of that groups population similar to other cities, Hispanics in LA county performing similar jobs are running 11 percentage points higher than African Americans.

This thread doesn't care if you're left, far right, centered, whatever