OnTheReel

All other things equal, I would expect the 10 speed to be quicker, it has a slightly shorter first gear ratio and better tuning overall in my experience. Might be a product of other equipment between the two trucks. I don’t know what model you have but if it’s a Trail Boss on duratracs vs an LT on street tires, that would make some difference between the lift and added tire weight. Rear axle ratio is another possible variable with the LT has the max trailering package.

Don’t worry too much about Thomcat’s thoughts...he wrecked his truck on a speed bump, ironically blamed the truck and then bought a Toyota Highlander. Now the Toyota forum gets to hear that crap instead. ? Does the loaner truck have the HD camera? I assume you meant LTZ because the LT can’t get the 6.2. If so it has the HD standard.

Hey? When you’re done talking about dicks, can you please review this spec chart from Car & Driver that shows literally everything you said is wrong... https://hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/files/2019chevroletsilverado1500highcountry-vs-fordf150limited-vs-ram1500limited-finalscoringcompletespecsperformancedata-1545396085.pdf Hemi, even with E-Torque... 0-60 in 6.2 seconds. Even your 5.3 is quicker than a Hemi, at 6.1 seconds. But the 6.2 with “no discernible difference,” 5.4 seconds... Ram is 600lb heavier and always has been the heaviest truck of the big three. These are simply facts, not anyone’s opinion.

Painted bumpers have always been a problem on these trucks. In regards to the rest of the paint...it’s no better or worse than any other robot painted, water based, mass produced, non-luxury vehicle I’ve owned. Scratches easy is a relative term. If you go wiping bird crap off with a paper towel, sure. If you keep a good wax on it, and strictly touchless or two bucket hand wash it, shouldn’t really be an issue. Adjust your technique.

Questioning the effectiveness of what the masses consider to be safe practices does not mean disregarding safe behavior. Yesterday I went to the Wendy’s drive thru and viewed one of these newfangled “safe practices”. The cashier held a bin out the window to put my debit card in. And after they dug it out and swiped it, they put it back in the bin and I had to scoop it out. Several hundred people that day had brushed their fingers into the same bin while digging their dirty change and cards out of it. Yeah, that makes sense...literally expose the cashier’s hand, my hand and my debit card to thousands more germs than if we just exchanged currency directly and the cashier washed hands at reasonable intervals. Masks are another thing that I wonder if they are doing more harm than good. Almost nobody wears them correctly...constantly dicking around with the uncomfortable straps, in effect touching their faces repeatedly with dirty hands. Pulling them down to cough or sneeze (yes, I’ve seen this!), pulling them down to talk anyway, re-using them for days at a time, littering germ-filled used masks in the parking lots of stores for someone else to pick up, etc. Also a good chance that the people who wear them feel a false sense of security, take more chances, and ignore other more effective ways to prevent getting the virus. The motorcycle helmet effect. The initial guidelines were very reasonable. Medically proven, common sense, easy for everyone to follow. Things most of us did anyway.

So this thread was created why?

Also, if you look close at the person who tagged her’s profile pic, it says “stay home, save lives”....you can’t make this stuff up!!!! ????

Wisconsin informally opened about 2 weeks ago when the state Supreme Court struck down the order on a 4-3 decision. Make note of this, it’s important later. After the ruling, the governor referred to us as the “Wild West” and predicted a huge surge in cases with being open with his order no longer in place. 2 weeks later, no increase whatsoever. Active cases and positive test % are down, in fact. Hospitalizations are flat. Haven’t gone under 300, or over 400 in months. Heard this one before? We held our primary election back in April 7th. Republicans were said to be killing people by holding the election. National media sensation. They even pulled James Carville out of the freezer to shame us. Well, of 400,000+, nobody who voted in person died. They asked everyone they tested for the following month if they voted, and found only 54 cases between voters and poll workers. Just a funny little blurb here...statistically, you were actually less likely to catch the virus if you voted than you didn’t. Well, media and public officials are back at it again, predicting a massive increase in cases due to people enjoying their freedom over the weekend. If this thread still exists in two weeks, I’ll quote this post and update the figures...think you know where this is going. Oh, and the State Supreme Court case I just spoke about? One of the (leftist) justices, Rebecca Dallet, who wrote an impassioned dissent to keep us locked down until after Memorial Day weekend “for our safety”...well, she was tagged in a Facebook photo, on a boat, with another family, not social distancing over the weekend. This would have been a clear violation of the order she just vouched for!!! Just another clear example of hypocrisy, and how our rulers treat this virus “threat” when nobody is watching.

Lowe’s doesn’t need your help...surely there’s some mom-n-pop garden shops local to you that have been real beat up over this. ?

Yeah, it’s irrational alright. Comparing someone who tests positive and maliciously spreads HIV (which was a death sentence to get in 1996) to incidental transmission of a upper respiratory virus like COVID-19?!? Keep telling everyone else they know nothing of the law while making arguments like that. ? Just for the record. I am self employed, built a business from scratch after a 10 year stint in retail management which I hated. And my business has been virtually unaffected. Wife’s hasn’t changed either. Our possessions are paid for. The point is, not everyone who disagrees with where things are going has only their own financial interests in hand. In fact, most are able to see beyond that. Stop dragging out the strawman.

Keep being mad at those people for doing what you think are stupid things. When they don’t get sick and opening up results in better overall public health, maybe you can re-assess your stance on the virus. By the way, there are laws against yelling fire or waving a pistol at someone. There is no law against giving someone a cold. Laws are constitutional. Tony Ever’s decrees in Wisconsin were not, that’s why they were tossed. We have a system for this and it’s being subverted, not used. The system allows for adequate emergency powers granted to local, state and federal governments for a limited amount of time as defined in the law. We are past that point in a legal sense, and it’s clear there are ulterior motives behind many of these continued lockdowns. I know your responses before you even write them and frankly they are not worth litigating anymore. It’s like talking to a cult, these lockdown supporters...

No one is dragging you to a baseball game, or even out of your house for that matter. What you’re saying (from your own all about me bus) is...”I’m scared to go out so EVERYONE should stay home”... “I’m scared of catching the virus so EVERYONE needs to wear a mask”... I cannot decide which risks you take...but you want to decide which ones I can’t take? Many sacrificed a lot more than dad and grandpa, but they all fought for our freedom and quality of life. Both of which we have handed back to government overlords in exchange for false security. And in the process, created authoritarian regimes not unlike the ones our heroes fought against. They believed in the freedom granted by the constitution and so do I. Have a nice day from your lockdown bunker. I assume you won’t be going to church.

If it wasn’t obvious by now, I intentionally miss your “points” to make my own. People who aren’t high risk will die of many other things as well, most of which are much more likely to happen than having a bad reaction to COVID. Like all of the unintended consequences in the list I made two or three pages ago. You wrote off half of them as being a matter of personal responsibility. The same personal responsibility you aren’t willing to grant the American public with a chance to open back up. Visited my father and grandfather today to make sure their plots were maintained and decorated for Memorial Day. One a WWII vet and the other Vietnam. Can’t help but wonder how they would feel about your form of risk management...that is...having no acceptable risk at all. Lose your American dream, suspend life to remain living at any cost.

Ah yes, the good old days. A warm, sunny open air baseball game. Many hypothesize that the transmission rate in an environment like that is substantially lower than the CDC numbers you pull from. And if high risk people don’t attend this game, and the people who are symptomatic stay home...the death toll drops to zero and the rest of us get our lives back. Wait...that’s not how this works? Well why not?

People just want the option to go!!! Everyone by now is aware of who’s at risk, social distancing guidelines, etc. We can’t be trusted to go to church without getting sick? Amazing how stupid our leaders think we are. And I guess we are stupid for letting for letting them steal all of our liberties in just two months time. That to me is scarier than the virus! What good is the constitution anymore?

Bummer. Frankly I would just have the OEM sensors moved over or buy another set of factory ones on eBay. Not even worth the time wasted on aftermarket sensors.

Doesn’t that also disable rear park assist, cross traffic alert and lane change alert though? Every time I plug a trailer into my 19, that stuff is automatically turned off.

People in high risk groups need to be protected. But you seem to ignore the adverse health effects of locking the low risk people in their homes. This is not strictly a monetary problem, so before you give me the “pushing granny off a cliff” argument or other platitudes, consider the effects of stress, anxiety, depression on the body. Consider the people falling into alcoholism because liquor stores are deemed essential but outdoor activities and productive work is not. Consider the 800% uptick in calls to the suicide hotline because people are isolated and hopeless. Scared well beyond reason by a media who’s only focused on doing what’s politically expedient for a certain party. Consider the increase in fatal drug overdoses as recreational users become full on addicts with nothing else to do (and a government check to support it). In my region, more people went to the morgue for this last weekend, then they did from COVID. Consider the number of routine screenings for other health issues that have been postponed or canceled. Canceled based on flawed models in preparation for hospitals full of COVID patients...never happened. Cancers missed, people having strokes and heart attacks but either afraid to go in, or unable to be seen by doctors. People gaining weight, eating poorly? Domestic violence increases? Child abuse? Everyone stuck at home wearing on one another...you know where that can lead. Is all of this worth it? For a virus that doesn’t effect most people who get it? Who’s really arguing against common sense?

My point is that these so called experts operate with impunity. There’s no accountability for anything they say or any sort of inflated model they come up with. No matter what. Unfortunately this isn’t the kitchen sink. There are downsides to “turning the water off”. We’ve sunk the economy and destroyed lives based on models they came up with. FYI, most of these models took into account the social distancing and lockdowns, and were still VERY wrong....

Same irresponsible crap we’ve been getting from the start. Like the Imperial College model that caused our entire country to shut down and lose their minds. Can never be wrong when you’re a doomsayer. When it comes true, you were right...and when it doesn’t, it’s because “we reacted in time” and you’re viewed as a savior. Even if it’s as bad as he thinks it may be, COVID is going to be the least of our problems by then if we can’t get the country back up and running.

Yup, we fled Illinois years ago and things have only gotten worse. Pritzker locks everyone down and then sends his family to Florida. Chicago mayor tells people that getting their hair done isn’t essential and then gets caught having a haircut on social media. Easy to make rules when you know you don’t have to follow them, and your checks are still coming in. Unfortunately WI hasn’t been much better as of late. Until last week we had one of the most restrictive “safer at home” orders in the country. For a state with just 12,000 cases, most concentrated in Milwaukee. Even after the state Supreme Court shot down the statewide order, individual counties and cities set out to extend and make their own, some spanning until the end of July now.

Cities are in deep trouble all around. The country’s response to COVID built the ultimate argument against mass transit and living on top of one another in a big a city. Since left-leaning people dominate the big city population/ leadership, and also tend (or pretend) to be the most concerned about the virus, they are going to find themselves permanently uncomfortable in the environment they created. People with money got sick of confiscatory taxation and have been fleeing these cities (and even states) for years. Can you imagine 5 or 10 years from now? The people afraid of germs will have left. The people sick of living under draconian orders will have left. They did this to themselves. The unfortunate thing is...we all have to suffer for it as the New York centric media treats the entire country as a high risk COVID war zone.

According to Car & Driver, the 8 speed 6.2 was actually the slowest. All tests are on similar configuration, fully loaded trucks. 14 was a Denali, 15 and 19 are High Countries. 2014: 0-60 5.4s, 1/4 14.1 @ 99 2015: 0-60 5.7s, 1/4 14.3 @ 98 2019: 0-60 5.4s, 1/4 13.9 @ 100 Realistically, on the street it would be a coin flip for any of the 3. The only comparative figures I have from someone else with a Dragy on the 19+ trucks was an AT4 6.2 with the similar intake / exhaust mods as mine. That being a factory lifted truck on A/T tires and with 3.23s instead of 3.42s did 0-60 in 5.71. So really not that far off from mine. Another virtual coin flip. These 6.2 trucks are not any slower or faster than the last gen. 5.3 definitely is quicker though.

The 5.3 did get a little quicker and a lot more responsive vs the K2 version...it really is night and day. But I still wouldn’t expect it to be so close in this instance, especially since both trucks have upsized aftermarket wheels & tires. Unless going from 22x10 to 24x10 will cost you 1+ second to 60??? The 5.3 truck doesn’t seem to be affected very much by it’s 22x10s or altitude. It’s numbers are really close to magazine tests, especially when you do give an allowance for these factors. The 6.2 in this test seems to be way off the grid vs mine and other peoples Dragy results.

What were the 0-60 times? That’s the main thing I’ve been measuring with Dragy on my 19 6.2. I have NHT, GM catback & rotofab intake. Best was 5.46s, rest were around 5.5. Best 60’ time was in the same run, 1.98s. Best launch technique was auto 4x4, sport mode, just mashing the gas. They seem to fall on their face with brake torquing.