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    2014 Silverado High Country 4x4 CCSB
  1. Though I'm not a fan of it, there's a LOT to like about the new Navigator/Expedition. GM needs to revamp pretty strongly - the existing 5.3 shouldn't even be an option on the suburban/yukon XL.
  2. 2019 V8 Horsepower ratings.

    Well my dad's first "new" car was a 72 Dodge Dart with the slant six, so I don't think there were tons of sexy options but that was a few years before my time... The past 40 years for cars has certainly been interesting - from the mid 70s to the early 90s most American cars seemed like garbage. Luckily the trucks have stayed pretty good for the most part.
  3. 2019 V8 Horsepower ratings.

    You're right as well, it's about efficiency. But that's not mutually exclusive with ASP. There's a double benefit for the manufacturer - they save time by bundling "popular" packages together (ie - rear backup sensors and power adjustable pedals) but that also benefits them by raising the price of the vehicle. And of course they have to do the bundles with all the feature options now. When my dad bought his first car in the 70s, there was a single option column - automatic or manual, color, power windows and door locks package, and cloth or vinyl basically. About 8 different things you could pick. Now there are hundreds.
  4. 2019 V8 Horsepower ratings.

    The logic is that if somebody wants that specific feature, then you force them to buy all the other stuff they may not necessarily want. For example, on my 07 Sierra, I wanted bucket seats but not leather, which was a huge pain in the ass, because there was like one trim line that made that possible, and it also required you to have power adjustable pedals and backup sensors, which I didn't give a shit about. They do bundles to force the average selling price of the truck higher. I always had the 5.3 in my Sierra, my Tahoe, my Suburban. Now I have the 6.2L and the difference is shockingly noticeable. I really like it. Which is gonna screw me when my wife's 2010 Suburban finally shits the bed because the only way to get a Suburban/Yukon XL with the 6.2L is on a luxury package like Denali. And the Suburban REALLY could use that 6.2L. It's heavy as hell, especially fully loaded. That 6.2L would be awesome.
  5. 2019 V8 Horsepower ratings.

    Man, I don't get this mentality at all, you guys. I've owned a bunch of GM products over the years. 04 Silverado, 07 Sierra, 07 Tahoe, '10 Suburban, '14 Silverado. I love GM as a brand - and the look of the '19 Sierra is awesome. Can't wait to see the 2020 Suburban/Yukon XL so I can upgrade my wife's car. But in the meantime, I'm still disappointed in these numbers. I've switched before (had a 00 Durango, 87/89 Ramchargers, etc) and if I have to, I will again. Right now it seems like Ford is leading the way on the engine/technology side and GM is behind them. There's a lot of great things about the 2019 trucks, but these engine HP/Torque numbers basically submarine a lot of those things.
  6. I think they were actually out a year earlier in 07.
  7. Completely agree with all of these things. Especially more room in the cab and the 36g fuel tank.
  8. I really like the phone integration and heated and cooled seats. Park assist I don't need but I don't care, either. Agree with better suspension, higher sitting, better looking wheels, and better stereos on lower end models. There's no reason that the touchscreen on a entry level $25k truck should be less capable than a $200 smartphone.
  9. In general the discounts on Tahoe/Yukons are never quite as good as the pickups. In my experience the best time to make deals on them is as the next year's models start showing up. So if they've got some 2018s on the lot and a handful of 2017s to get rid of, that's the right time. The only time I've seen better deals is when they do a significant body change. In 2015 when they launched the current version Tahoe/Yukon a neighbor bought a fully loaded 2014 Denali XL (one of the last three on the lot) for like $51k (sticker was almost $70k).
  10. My wifes suburban 1500 has about 125k Miles on the original shocks and struts. They arent leaking or anything but they definitely feel less robust during driving. Anybody have any suggestions? Ive heard people recommend Bilstein, any specific models to look out for? Or to avoid? Thanks.
  11. 6.2L

    Holy shit this thread turned into garbage quickly. I've had three different trucks/SUVs with the 5.3L (07 Sierra, 07 Tahoe, 10 Suburban) and one with the 6.2L, the 6.2L is worlds faster. That may not matter to you. That's fine. I definitely would have said nothing negative about the 5.3L - it's a great motor and has plenty of power to spare. But the difference as a daily driver is pretty significant. My 07 CCSB 2wd Sierra SLT (4spd) was great, but the 14 CCSB 4x4 Silverado HC (6spd) is hilariously powerful in comparison. Roughly the same weight, the same dimensions - slightly different gearing but the biggest difference is the ~100 extra horsepower and torque. And real-world MPG is only about 1mpg worse on the 6.2L. If they offered that 6.2L in the LT packages for a $1k upgrade people would be buying it all day long. I'm secretly hoping they dump it in a RCSB 2wd to make a race truck.
  12. 6.2 fuel milage?

    Like everyone else, 14-15 city (stop and go traffic, stoplights, etc) and 20-21 on long trips. Love this motor.
  13. Now that I have the 6.2L I don't know how I could ever go back. So spoiled. Love the blue color with the cocoa dune interior. post some pics when you get a chance!
  14. So, if I HAD to sell.....

    Utilitarian is one thing. Just plain boring and cheap feeling was another. I was so disappointed. I only owned it for 7 months. And it was nicely equipped, too. Leather and everything. Crappy stereo, crappy seats, crappy interior plastics, crappy glass on the windshield that was loud as hell (apparently they improved this in the 2017 versions), etc. The CVT in my 2.5 was kinda blah, and the engine was tolerable but not exciting. Even the test drive of the XT with the turbo was kinda borderline. I'm sure the car is reliable and efficient - it'll get 20-30mpg all day long and do 300,000 miles if it's treated right. Tires and maintenance will be cheap. But man, I couldn't wait to get back into a full sized truck. I have gone from: 1989 Dodge Ramcharger 4x4 (318) 1987 Dodge Ramcharger 4x4 (360) 2000 Dodge Durango 4x4 (4.7L) 2006 Silverado Crew Cab LS (4.8L) 2007 Sierra Crew Cab SLE (5.3L) 2007 Tahoe LTZ (5.3L) 2016 Forester (2.5L) 2014 Silverado High Country 4x4 (6.2L) So maybe my expectations are a bit wonky, as I don't really like "car" based vehicles. I prefer the truck ride height and stiffness. Right now, my current truck has one major problem - the 6.2L has basically ruined me for driving my wife's 5.3L Suburban.
  15. So, if I HAD to sell.....

    As a note, I owned a Forester for a while. Similar to a Crosstrek but with a larger body/bigger interior. I was not impressed with the overall feel of the vehicle. It felt kinda cheap and light. Noisy on the freeway, weirdly rough over bumps, things like that. Decent from a MPG perspective but nothing exciting at all to drive. Really, a quite boring vehicle.

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