Jettech1

And how about we move along to another vehicle. A 2025 Ford Explorer ST line that we own...It has been amazing. Tons of room, hate the tires, they are Pirellis 275/45/21...they always want to follow road grooves...Hate those damn things and they are looking bad now at 24k miles. I've always hated Pirellis. They were on our 2016 Charger SRT. I burnt them damn things off within 10k miles. Junk.....pure junk....anyhow getting back to our Explorer. It really is amazing. Technology is the beast here. We have had I don't know how many recalls, most were done over the air, that's super cool..... but yet the aux. fan died. And there is a nav problem with it. You can tell it where you want to go, it will respond, but the turn by turn directions are spoken so low you can barely hear them. Turning up the volume has no impact. They are in touch with the engineers to try and figure out that problem. We went to the car wash in Tulsa the other day, I hit the button the retract the mirrors, it worked great, coming out, the right mirror didn't extend. Glitchy......That's why we have this amazingly new Maverick in our yard now. I hope you all get where I'm coming from. Anyhow our Explorer is amazing. 25 plus mpg going 75mph. Blue Cruise, holy crap is that too cool or what? I wish it worked on every highway. Rides kind of stiff but that's ok. The ST line comes with the 2.3l turbo not the V6. It does have giant brakes and is amazing. It's bright red so my wife loves it...But it's glitchy....And don't trust blue cruise... you have to always be alert. That thing has dis-engaged on me several times and I had to grab the wheel to make sure we didn't get into an accident. It's cool, but don't let it overcome your attention at all times.

Ok, thank you!

Interesting. Well what I see is not what others see. That was the whole reason for my post.

Why?

But then you actually drive it. That's where things change quickly...

Ok, I agree. I did miss the point. But my point is that 46k for this cheap ass vehicle is good for what? You tell me sir! What is it good for? That's what I'm trying to understand. What demographics, what person or persons would want to buy this and for what? I don't get it's purpose.

Not necessarily. You quoted F 150 and Rangers. This is a cheap ass Maverick sir.

It's not a bad looking little "truck" And without knowing for a fact, maybe it's great offroad. Maybe....it sucks the fuel down, that I know, the engine sounds like a rattle cage, the tires are annoyingly loud, I don't know. I'm old now so this might have interested me years ago, probably not because I loved high powered vehicles. It's fairly quick. I'll give it that. Ok...yes, it will get up and go, aside from that, I can't think of any other plusses. And I'm trying here. Even the seats aren't all that comfortable....I'm only 200lbs but even my butt got squeezed into them....lol...I'm still trying to figure out where the market is for this vehicle? Who would buy it for 46k and why?

It only had 25 miles on it when they handed the keys to my wife. I think they wanted it out there to be seen. Just my opinion.

I can't compare it to the other tremors because I've only seen the badge. But this little thing, wow. It's small, like really Volkswagen beetle small. I'm talking like my first car that was a 73 super beetle small. I will admit that 2.0l turbo is quick, but it rattles a lot when idling. Just weird....to me at least.

Let me preempt this by saying our 2025 Explorer is having some problems. We love it though, it's probably the only Ford product that we actually love. Anyhow, our beloved Explorer is experiencing some problems now with only 24k on clock. It's been to Maine twice from Alabama, been all over Florida along with just recently Tulsa Ok. So we were given a brand new Maverick Tremor (off the showroom floor) as a loaner while our Explorer is being worked on. The window sticker says 46k for this particular vehicle. We have driven it around quite a bit and I don't see the reason this vehicle exists. I'm not trying to be a snob here but why??? The tires howl like crazy because they are truly off road tires, the gas mileage is in the low 20's. If you have passengers in the back God help them with room. It's small, not really efficient, I don't know. I'm appreciative our local dealership gave us this vehicle as a loaner, with only 25 miles on it, but I still don't understand why it exists. Even if you are a hardcore off roader, it might do ok, but it's still a 46k dollar vehicle. Do you really want to get it scraped up or dented after paying so much money for it? The bed is there, it will only tow 2k lbs. What market does this vehicle fit in? Again I'm thankful we were given a new vehicle with only 25 miles on it, but it's like, WTH. Who would buy it? And if so, for what?

Totally agree sir, balancing beads or anything else is not needed. You did call them out, hopefully it didn't hurt their feeling (singular intentionally too bad). LOL

What I love about the 6L90 is, it's a beast. Way over built. Used in racing applications and HD trucks. It's way simpler than the 10L1000. It just works. And keeps on working.

Let me try to give everyone the most simplified aspect as to how an auto trans works. Here I go...There are clutch packs, stators and rotors...these clutch packs need pressure to engage and clamp down to make forward motion. So we add in switches that direct hydraulic pressure coming from the sun gears. Their job is to provide pressure to the pressure switches of which provide and direct clamping force on the clutches. It's really not that hard to understand if you can envision the whole process. This can happen in milliseconds depending on how many gears that have to be changed depending on speed, pedal pressure, etc etc.... Automatic transmissions are a really truly amazing thing. They really are. Here's the down side of any auto trans. They rely on line pressure and clutches that are supposed to work in harmony. The one thing they won't ever replace is the good old, standard trans that might have synchros in them to make gear shifts easier. Totally different beast but they are amazing as well.. I love Automatics, I love the old, shift them yourself...but when something goes wrong, know your stuff...Keep in mind, these autos have electronic shift solenoids. Keep in mind they can go wrong. Keep in mind the TCM isn't perfect. Nothing is! So when things go wrong...well...here we go!!

Sorry man, but that's where I need to call BS. I love conversation but there are huge differences mechanically between the 6L80 and 90. And the TC is different as well. Tell me I'm wrong.