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I saw that happen for real in my father’s 1970 cst hugger orange Chevy truck. It had the 402 engine. His oil guy called him real excited about a new oil called Cristal 50. My father bought several cases and had an oil change party with his brothers. Lucky for them it went in their personal cars that weren’t driven much. My father on the other hand drove a couple hundred miles day between his job sites. This oil guy supplied all the oil and grease for my father’s business. At the time he had 60 pieces of heavy equipment and 80 men. This was in NJ. Before the week was out I heard him come home. When he opened the door I heard his truck running it seemed wide open. It had headers and glass packs. And he looked pretty pissed. I went out open the door and there was a brick wedge holding it wide open. The tack said only 3K RPMs. I heard him screaming at the oil guy saying the dip stick will not come out. It had no oil pressure and the closer to home he got the slower it would go. The oil was for racing to be drained frequently. I can’t remember how often I was 14. The oil guy paid for a new engine. My mother made my father remove the brick. It made a shriek and it got towed. The next day he pulled up in a El Camino SS with a cowl induction hood. My uncle got the truck.

The level of trolling from someone who joined on Tuesday of last week is pretty high. My guess is former member promoted to visitor who created a new account, or is using a shadow account to bypass user blocks. Just a guess. :shrug:

You’re a hoot. You can list yours but I can’t list mine? It does go towards experience. Of which I have lots along with the family business that is on going. But you can have the last word. It seems you need that. Rock on.

It’s very unfortunate your engines use oil mine don’t. I guess you are one of those who can’t stand that people have different experiences. I’m sure there’s plenty of people even on this website have the same experience. Most engines don’t use oil. Spark plugs would misfire, cats would clog. Vehicles wouldn’t pass smog. You should really quit while you’re behind. You’re looking like a fool.

It was the middle of the 80s. It was marketed as being able to extend. We ran it 25K miles in our trucks. My brother put auxiliary filters on his truck ran Amsoil for 50K miles. The only reason he didn’t go longer. He over boosted his supper charger and blew a head gasket. We double the hours between oil changes with my ROW tractors. The biggest changes were the saving with our high pressure hydraulics. If you blew a high pressure hose powering the implement (our cutter head) you could count on the pump failing due to oil starvation (cavitation) . Amsoil synthetic hydraulic oil stopped that. Generally it doubled the life of our automatic transmission in our trucks. It saved us money across the board.

Have you looked at your brake vacuum pump? On the 2017 Chevy 5.3L, a failing mechanical brake vacuum pump can cause excess oil consumption. The pump relies on engine oil for lubrication and a seal. If internal seals fail, the pump will draw oil directly out of the crankcase and push it into the brake booster or intake, where it is burned.Key Symptoms of a Failing Vacuum Pump. Hard or stiff brake pedal: Loss of vacuum assist makes braking effort significantly harder.Oil in the vacuum line: Disconnecting the vacuum line to the brake booster will reveal wet oil inside the hose.Noisy operation: A clicking, grinding, or loud tapping sound coming from the front/driver's side of the engine.Smoke from the tailpipe: Burning oil as it cycles through the intake.

Different state, different business, about 10 years later. The NJ business was sight prep for subdivisions and Great Adventure amusement and safari park. In Texas it was utility, land clearing and Row Clearing. Later equipment sales and services. Featuring our own clearing attachment. Amsoil showed up at shop one day in Texas. I tested it in my equipment and truck first. With oil analysis we started using it in everything. The business in NJ was owned by my father started in the 60s. The second was family owned father and sons. We used conventional oil. Amsoil was our first synthetic.

Great story. Thanks for shareing.

He has no clue what he means. Argues like a child. Somewhere a village is missing its......

I believe I've stumbled across the fix for the volume of oil use that the OP wants to address, a permanent fix at that so it will never use any oil ever again. Sure, the Valvoline Restore & Protect may very well solve some or perhaps all of the issue but it will take time to run through a few batches of oil on a low oil change interval where as this other solution is cheap, quick and permanent. However like its said, sometimes its better to work a little for the reward .... I posted it elsewhere on this forum in the appropriate place where with a little effort it can be found.

Speculation of course but I bet it would not only prevent oil from leaking out of the engine as explained here, but probably would prevent any future oil use within the cylinders as well once it gets a chance to work its way through the engine for a few minutes

Ha Ha. Sometimes I don’t understand you. I do value your input.

$4.19 at the place I get it from in Leominster. Cheaper if buying in bulk, so I could get it for $4.16. 40 friggin degrees out there today, so I'm running the mini split to take the chill off. I've got enough oil to take care of hot water for the next month - after that, I'll have to pull the trigger. That'll be a $2,500 bill ± for all 3 of my tanks right now. EDIT - I COULD fire up the coal boiler, but that'll be one more thing to do besides taking care of a couple acres.

kNut, I hear ya. Minivans are extremely functional vehicles, they get gas mileage more like a car than a truck and have amazing hauling ability and are comfortable on trips. We can agree on that.

My minivan. I use for trips. My wife has to travel in the back seat so she can lay down. It’s a long story. I hated it for about an hour. I always had high performance vehicles or modified them. When it wears out I will get another one. If you spend time in one you will understand. I’ve never had a regular vehicle this long. And never replaced a vehicle with a same model. I answered because the topic was changed.

Yep. Idle time can wash the cylinder walls and dilute the oil and add volume to it over time. On a smaller scale, the owners manuals for small diesels and gasoline direct inject engines for cars tell owners to limit idle time. EGR is a different subject but I agree. 8 quarts of fresh translucent oil in a modern diesel with emissions and it turns instantly black. When DI systems malfunction they can leak fuel into the oil system...not uncommon for people to see another half to full quart over full on the dipstick before they realize there's a problem. EEK

If you want to be technical. They use all fluids because you change them. But that isn’t what the thread was about. I’m not going to list all the vehicles I own or have a percentage of ownership in the family business. It’s enough.

My engines use oil, yes. As do yours. However, you lack the ability to perform higher resolution analysis of data points in relation to your own experience. It's OK to acknowledge your blind spots or where you need to incorporate information to change your incorrect views. I've got 7 vehicles in the fleet right now, two are diesel. Four of the gas engines use virtually nothing; we'll call it "nothing" but oil usage is actually non-zero, it has to be. They burn completely healthy amounts of oil for their use and design which really isn't noticeable during a typically oil change interval. That doesn't mean they don't use oil. You? You'd say they use "no oil" and it's not possible that they burn any oil. And that's simply untrue. The only vehicle that doesn't burn oil is our EV. The diesels I described above. The small diesel is too new but is explained to burn oil during early mileage by the manufacturer and that matches my experience with other new diesel engines. The medium diesel burned when new and now burns acceptably normal which is almost nothing--but it's never zero.

What I find far more disturbing is when I see an engines oil level slowly rise because that is NOT a natural occurrence of a mechanically sound engine and fuel system, or engine design to begin with. In one instance I sent in an oil sample to the Cat lab because its here in Alberta from a diesel tractor and sure enough it came back that it had a certain percentage of fuel dilution and I called the lab and talked about the results and he said with this particular engine it is a known common issue and that the engine does NOT like idle time even if fully warmed up as it make it worse yet for fuel dilution issues. The answer basically was to monitor it as per the level, try not to let it idle any more than I have to and ultimately change the oil more often before the diesel dilution gets to a critical point. Of course this engine in question has the idiotic EGR that makes the oil black as tar after running it for one day, thankfully it was before the dpf and def was forced onto farm equipment. I'd much rather have an engine that uses a bit of oil because its typically natural for engines to use some oil over time and that the oil does not get black instantly vs an engine that is forced to swallow soot down its throat and due to weird fuel timing for emissions purposes end up with fuel dilution in the crank case.

All combustion engines burn oil, literally, by design. The cylinder walls have to remain lubricated between strokes of the piston which means the rings can't and shouldn't totally wipe the cylinder walls clean when they pass. As such, oil on the cylinder walls is present during the combustion phase and is also susceptible to combustion, i.e. burning. And that's in a perfectly healthy engine with perfectly seated rings with perfect maintenance, whether you use Valvoline or Amsoil or whatever snake oil of your choice. Anyone with such experience with multiple vehicles should know this; if you are the guy with the most experience and knowledge in this room, we're hosed.

I joined this website to gain knowledge and entertainment. I like most people lived in a bubble. Like minded people with different talents to build a thriving business. I share knowledge and experience with no agenda. When I retire I did Uber for awhile because I like to drive and you get paid to do it. I wanted to experience different personalities and life experiences. I got an education. The common theme it appears some people don’t want to learn anything. They want parity. Your experience can’t be true. Mine is reality. It’s really simple if you can’t deal don’t read it.

everything is politics ...

GM is having a problem with the 6.2. It started around 2020. It’s been reported even in the 2026 models. Driving style has little to do with the failure. The mileage varies. The service duty varies. The failure event varies. So is it possible it’s happening with this engine with little driver input? Duh!

So you rather people think everyone has an oil burning problem? There’s not many people who have had more experience with multiple vehicles than I have. Through my hobbies and my business. If you have a vehicle that uses oil that’s not normal. Most people don’t have an oil burning problem even going by the manufacturer’s recommendations. Your service intervals aren’t normal. You’re what is called an outlier. Most people don’t have time or the inclination to do as you do. I’m not saying to you that you have no input. You seem to have an issue with a person who has a different experience than you. My experiences are real. Maybe it all comes down to using Amsoil. Even during my extended days. If you don’t like it block me once again. I don’t need your approval.

Oil consumption free for 20K miles then BOOM, it starts? And YOUR driving habits, environment, fluid maintenance had nothing to do with that? Some GM Engineer come into your yard at 20K and sabotage it? But your going to use Valvoline to free/clean the rings? Those are YOUR words I quoted. GM gave you an oil tight motor. Your inputs fouled them. If you believe those rings can be freed/cleaned by use of Valvoline's Restore and Protect then their fouling could have been PREVENTED GENIUS! If you don't believe it will work and your going to try it anyway.....WHY?

Sounds like relevant experience. Also in line with the OEM Engineers of both GM and Ford. Ford makes note in their oil consumption test that they will use oil for the first 10 K and not to do a consumption test before that point. https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2019/MC-10169811-0001.pdf GM defines things like aggressive and towing. Break in, excessive idle, ect. https://dot.report/bulletins/11007091

Then you haven't any relevant input for those that have had that experience, right?

Compress the springs and rotate the shock 180 degrees so that the angle of the bar matches the angle of the LCA.

Compress the spring just enough to ease the pressure so that it can be rotated

My LZ0 is burning a little bit during break-in, but they come with an extra quart in the sump for exactly this reason. Had a weird one...a 2.8 diesel in a Colorado. Didn't burn anything of concern until I towed a car on a trailer across the country. Was battling headwinds and mountain passes all day and it consumed almost an entire quart. I just about fell over. Refilled it, burned a little on the leg home, and then the next OCI, back to almost nothing. The L9 in our motorhome burned oil on break-in but has stopped. It's got 35k now, some people say that's not broken in on a Cummins, but I think the rings are fully seated. It spends a lot of time pulling a vehicle on a trailer on mountain passes with the throttle buried. Good little engine it is, even though it's slowww. Had an LLY Duramax in the previous rig but it was used, and it did consume some even with 50k on it. I keep my rigs filled to the "full" mark on the dipstick. When they drop below that, i consider that refill territory.

Cant fix stupid

ENOUGH!!!! The rules say no politics

Same part = same warranty. If making the change to do so results in the cost skyrocketing it was a lousy part in the first place. I recently bought a temperature sensor for the Yukon. AC/Delco, GM $40 with a 2 year warranty Duralast $23 with a lifetime warranty Guess which one I bought. Squeezing out a customer today might save GM a little now, but no customers tomorrow will cost them more. They will eventually run out of 'loyal' customers to squeeze. Where are the new customers coming from anyways (another manufacturer they had a bad experience with)? A race to the bottom of who is the least awful to deal with.

Only one that hit their head is the left - you and your entire world view. Keep hitting that bong, genius.

IF we don't point out the negative, WHO is going to FIX it??? You're ok with scumbags running SEVEN DECADES in a statehouse & screwing the populace at every turn?? You LIKE high taxes??? WTF, seriously!

Yeah, a BIG one. Didn't your state have a CHAZ / CHOP zone where not even cops would go? Real nice. Ever wonder why all the leftist run left-coast states have THE HIGHEST fuel costs in the Nation? MA has the third highest electric rates in the nation, thanks to the green-eyed moonbats running the state. Green can't win on merit ... so they FORCE it. Kinda like communism. Funny how they love communism & socialism, and legislate in lock step with both. All your buddies bleat about how "great" MA is, as every road in the state tears your motor vehicles to pieces, the healthcare system bleeds us dry and then steals our tax returns if we don't have APPROVED insurance! (Ain't communism great? How does THIS help the POOR??) I can afford to pay cash for any procedure without insurance ... but for some reason I'm forced to buy it. Must be why auto insurers have to get a green stamp of approval from the state first before they do business here. That's not shady at all. Then any big city you go to is lined with homeless encampments full of addicts & criminals - they're even living on the bike trails they wasted millions on ... yet, still can't find a dollar to fix any of our roads ... Taxes are through the roof, there's a half-million fees on every damned thing the state FORCES us to buy, the People get ZILCH while illegals get put in 5-star hotels / motels ... and nobody seems to know where the money went or how much money has been spent on that whole fiasco ... the generational welfare crew gets free EVERYTHING - all paid by the state at OUR expense- and the weather sucks, too. Your idiot buddies also claim we have "the best" (there's that word again!) education in the nation. That's funny ... because NOT ONE KID knows ANYTHING about American history when they graduate here ... but know all about gender ideology and who George Floyd was. You're ok with that???? WTF man ... You & your acid-trippin' buddies definition of "best" is flawed.

Sold them.

I can't see them being all that serious about ramping up inventory after eliminating the 3rd shift in Oshawa.