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    ^ So I guess all the rock buggies I used to wheel with in the rock pits running 44" tires with coil overs and Dana 60's front and rear with Lockers were SUV's with no bed. I'll test drive the Sily and Ram. Make my own decision. I'm not paying top dollar for a 1st off F150 either. and the current F150 is pretty outdated. So that leaves Ram and Silverado.
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    Frame beaming in a 2014 new 1500. Wow. That's a tough pill to swallow when Ram and Ford's ride silky smooth. I really want a new Silverado b/c it's got the better interior, quiet cab and highest safety ratings and good brakes. But Jeez.
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    Just by a RAM. They have better suspension and cost less. and come with 20's standard.
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    Silverado-Hareek. That's what I found and posted 2 or so pages back. Frame beaming. There is no fix. Hence why GM can't and won't come out with a fix. On my F250, that was "normal" for a big truck like that. and it wasn't bad really, 45-50. On the hwy it was RV smooth.
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    Pretty sad the big 3 1500's all have a Achilles heel. I saw a good video last night where they compared the front ends of the Tundra and the Silverado. The Tundra has much better approach angle and clearance.
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    Lets see. Toyota has c channel crap frame. Ford has EB engine problems. GM's shake and vibrate. Ram's need 16 plugs every 30k and still have questionable QC. I'm not sure WTF the right choice is here.
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    It's frame beaming. There is a TSB out for older model trucks. If you put 300-500 Lbs in the bed does the vibration go away? Someone needs to post up the results!!!!! If so, it's frame beaming. That's the term I was looking for with my F250 45-50 mph vibration. Frame beaming. I'm betting that's the issue here. But on a 1500, consumer truck they should of fixed it on the new models at least. They knew about it on the old trucks, there was a very good well written TSB for it. I'd like to see the new '14 Silverado on the F150 25mph speed bump strip test they call silver lake or whatever. The test where the Tundra almost lost it's bed. I can say Toyota frames suck. my '09 Tacoma TRD off-road with C-channel frame twisted like crazy. but my 1994 4runner had a fully boxed frame and even with my 38's and straight axle conversion never twisted off-road. So we can all relax now, road force balance your tires and enjoy your bobbing frame. GM is never going to come out and say "the frames we make suck". And for the price GM is asking on the new '14's I may wait and see what the new F150 is priced at. At least with the F150 the only issue I'm aware of is the EB engine collecting water in the intercooler and some engine failures. but most people are not used to owning turbo engines either so between Ford's learning curve, 87 cheap gas and the average sick pack joe now owning a direct injecton twin turbo truck... it's going to be a train wreck.
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    Does this issue affect the bucket seats w/console also? Or just the split bench deal?
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    2strokesmoke- That's been probably the most helpful post I've read. No wheels or tires on a lift and it still vibrates. It's got to be the Driveshaft, Ujoints operating angle or something like that. Has anyone measured their rear/front operating angles? We should start posting that. You can get a angle finder for $10. Measure the angle of the driveshaft and then the angle of the pinion flange. Same for the front. They should be within 2* and each less than 10*. Example: Front angle: 8* Rear angle: 6* Pinion is -2* pre-loaded. I may bring my angle finder with me to the dealer when I look at trucks. On my '07 F250, they all had a slight vibration around 45-50mph. Everyone knew it. Those trucks have a 2pc shaft. I worked with the center joint side to side and shimming it up/down. I actually got it "almost gone" after about 2hrs of fiddling with it. Dealer didn't even mess with it. Two magnetic levels, mason string and a angle finder and some paper and common math made it much better. Point is these trucks may have something inherent in the frame design. The F250's had C-channel frames and they flexed like twizzlers off-road. One reason I rid the truck. Ford added a motor mount looking vibration dampner to the side of the hitches to absorb some of the vibration. It helped.
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    I won't let them just throw parts at my truck when I get it. I'll take it to my local shop that has a Hunter 9700 and I'll get out in the bay with the tech and help him use the machine properly and personally verify the road force Lbs. I had bought a Lincoln car back in '11, with 30k, CPO from the dealer. I had them put new OEM Michelin tires on it, which are like $950/set. Car had a vibration. Took it to my guys, we got all the tires down to 9-10 Lbs of road force, and I used my personal torque wrench to put the wheels back on. That Lincoln rode out at 120 like glass. In my experience Michelin make the best tires, and they happen to be the most expensive also. That's one other item that may be affecting this issue. Warped rotors. I know it's a 1/2 ton truck, but you can take a brand new Lexus off the lot, and put a num nut with an impact on it at the local tire shop and you're cooked. Warped rotors. I always bring my own Click type 1/2" drive with me. Impact off, torque back on in 2 stages. Torque sticks suck also, I never let them use them. So yes, may cost me some cash, but the funny thing is I will find the issue and I won't spend my weekends and evenings playing the tire dance with morons who are stuck in 1970's auto tech school either. I'll pull the D-shaft myself and measure the pinion and Tcase angle and operating angle on the shaft if I have to. I have all the gear from when I built my rock crawler.
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    Tires may definitely be junk. I want Michelin LTX2's on my truck eventually. Seems like now a days the manufactures are putting junk tires on cars from the factory unless you buy a BMW/Benz etc. Benz and BMW know how to put nice tires on a car. Be a shame to lose potential buyers over some cheap skins. If we knew for sure it's the tires, then I wouldn't be so hesitant to buy a new truck. I'd go in there with the mind set, use them until they shake, get LTX's and witness road force balance them at my shop I normally use. But buying a new truck that has a vibration that nobody knows what the issue is, nor if it's even fixable is worrisome.
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    ^The F150 is still a good truck, and a lot of the EB failures are from abuse, tuners etc. I bought a new '07 6.0 F250 and everyone told me it was junk. I had zero issues, never put a tuner on it and always kept the PCM updated with ford. Never had an issue. The new '15+ F150 looks really bad to me. Their logo looks like it's borrowed from Toyota. I have still not ruled out buying a '13/'14 left over F150 with a huge discount. Jennifer- What is GM's formal stance on the vibration issue with these trucks?
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    Let's stop ****** in the wind and get to the point. These are $40-$50k trucks that vibrate and shake like Smokey's car from the movie Friday. I personally know another co worker of mine that bought a new Silverado Z71 back in late '12? and it vibrated so bad they bought it back from him. So I'm not so sure this issue didn't carry over from the old platform like baggage. What is GM's official stance on this issue? If a column switch cost them over a BILLION dollars (Yes Q1 reports were out today) I can only imagine how expensive it would be to put new driveshafts, or axles etc. in these trucks. Just seems like GM doesn't really want to address this vibration issue. If GM doesn't come out with a TSB/Recall the dealers will never find the true issue and just keep throwing everything including the kitchen sink at these trucks. Which costs them money and loses customers. I have more respect for companies that say, here is the issue, here is the fix. IE- BMW. my '07 335i was part of that big HPFP capper. They swapped it out, some injectors and threw a good warranty on top for 120k/8yrs or something crazy like that. And nobody is reporting failures with the new pump. painless, and properly executed. GM could use a few neurotic attention to detail people from BMW. I might just wait for the new Titan.
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    This vibration issue alone makes me not want to buy a new Chevy. This should not be difficult to find. You can put a frequency counter (?) on the dash and it will show you the frequency of the vibration and based on your speed you can see what part the vibration is coming from. There is also proper 9700 road force balancing which 99% of shops that have them, don't know how to use them properly. That's why I always stand there while they do it and help the tech and witness the Lbs of road force. Pinion angle is also critical. Pinion and u-joint angle to be more precise. I built a straight axle Dana 44 early 90's 4runner with a rotated front axle and rotated rear axle and CV shaft setup. Running 38's, That truck would do 100mph and not even shake your cup of coffee. Driveline tech is not something the $10/hr tire monkeys at the dealer know how to do. and the Silverado has leafs, so you have to deal with pinion pre-load also. IMO, the driveline is not setup correctly. The tires being balanced at the factory, in my experiences are spot on. This is a driveline math error. I'm thinking when the truck is unloaded the angles are way off, they probably have the thing setup for full load, or half load conditions. And yes, the longer the wheelbase/driveshaft the lower your operating angles will be, which mean smoother running driveline. GM should of coughed up the extra $20/truck and put a CV setup on the driveline.
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