Grumpy Bear

One of Dizzy's new tricks it to lock/unlock about three times before it will STAY locked. I understand.

Funny you should mention that. I've actually done that but it was East St. Louis. Off ramp to a ghost down town full of...um....lets say interesting people best viewed like lions at the zoo and best not interacted with. I see your point and thank you for expanding my view. That said, Kewanee is just 'price fixing'. IMO, naturally. Every price the same on every pump selection regardless of brand or location? C'mon man. I had to Google the Griswold reference. Never saw the movie. Cute....

You learned how to do this... Assembly required! What is Algebra? Look it up if you forgot. But it's usefulness is in finding the unknown with what you do know and it's how I made my living for most of my adult life. Fixing stuff smart people break or didn't finish completely enough to be useful by using what I did know and measuring what I didn't then applying the 'laws of the universe' to extract the truth. I didn't learn this skill in a conventional school room. But in Bible study at my mothers knee. That will draw some ire but it is the truth nonetheless. Oil is cloaked in "Intellectual Property" which means SPECIFICALY, "I don't want you to know how to fix a thing I need to fail to make my living." Yea, $$$$. Problem is, if I allow this, I lose money I don't have to support another's debt. Here's the thing. We can work Algebra because it's principles are set in stone and laid on the foundation the Creator established. Ditto the 'rules' of physics and the methods of science and the language of math that explains it all. Something I have complete confidence in. That foundation is unshakable. Newton knew this and he is a damn site smarter that I or anyone else that visits this forum. 2 + 2 will always = 4. There are no "Alternate Facts" no "Subjective Reality" for this truth and I deal in truth. When I don't know a hidden truth I FIND IT by the indirect means of what is indelible and factual that I do know or can be found out. Then, I assemble it. It is required if you want a thing FIXED someone else doesn't want fixed. This is what this tread is about. Learning to learn a thing NO one wants you to learn. But some assembly is required.

No sooner out of my mouth that it jumps back up 30 cents across the board. Glad I filled up early.

E85 pricing within even 25 miles is nuts. $2 to $3+. They all get it from the same plant a few miles down state. Yesterday I was near Kewanee Ill. Every station within 20 miles of there and in that town had identical prices on every product. LOL. (da fix is in) And the highest in a dozen counties. I've noticed that the poorest districts in our state also have the highest gas prices, highest food prices and the fewest services. Why steal from the poor? I've also noticed that the quickest way to see lower gas pricing is to have a LOVES truck stop spring up. There's some downward pressure.

Some Assembly Required Data Mining https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/voa-database.360118/ Not an exhaustive list and from an array of labs but the only thing I was attempting to assemble on this dig was oxidation values. A number than indicates presence of Esters. Not analogies to Aniline Point but directional compatible. Aniline point I've learned is a $300 test that would be the cats pajamas, however I will not invest that sort of resources on such a broad spectrum. That said we have boxed in some aniline values that are valuable. Aniline points over 90* are non-polar and at the mercy of short OCI selection to maintain cleanliness. Aniline points between 60 and 90 are polar enough to prevent deposit formation with any reasonable OCI. Aniline points between 50 and 60 are quite aggressive cleaners capable of removing even hardened deposits with time. We know that Cummins Valvoline Premium Blue Restore 10W30 clocks in oxidation between 109 and 140. ( I have 3 separate reports) That's a real cleaner and a point toward what it takes to get an Aniline point in the cleaning range. We have the other end of the scale pinned down by Lake Speed Jr. at an oxidation value of 30 as a minimum which I assume means minimum to be effective as a prophylactic. ( I base this on his earlier works siting a value of 25 now revised upward ). I like his flexibility and willingness to course correct as he learns. Use of AN's and other polar materials will not permit a straight across Aniline to Oxidation correlation but again, directionally it would be easy enough to make the case than a fully formulated PCMO with an 80 to 120 oxidation to be more aggressive than a 30 to 40 oxidation. And to that point scrounging around in the data base I find PCMO's grouped into some pretty distinct segments with a few gems emerging. Most Full Synthetics fall below even 10 oxidation. Mobil 1 ESP formulations and HPL various fall in that 30'ish area. AMSOIL in the 45 range. And while not in this data base Red Line is clocking in between 80 and 124 or just below the CUMMINS product. Compare below CUMMINS and Red Line HP at the same UOA intervals on oxidation only. Note sample one submitted earlier above. Focus. Lab work done by Dyson Labs LLC.

Harvey Elwood P. Dowd: You see, science has overcome time and space. Well, Harvey has overcome not only time and space, but any objections. Dr. Chumley: Fly specks, fly specks! I've been spending my life among fly specks while miracles have been leaning on lampposts at 18th and Fairfax! Elwood P. Dowd: Harvey and I sit in the bars... have a drink or two... play the juke box. And soon the faces of all the other people they turn toward mine and they smile. And they're saying, "We don't know your name, mister, but you're a very nice fella." Harvey and I warm ourselves in all these golden moments. We've entered as strangers - soon we have friends. And they come over... and they sit with us... and they drink with us... and they talk to us. They tell about the big terrible things they've done and the big wonderful things they'll do. Their hopes, and their regrets, and their loves, and their hates. All very large, because nobody ever brings anything small into a bar. And then I introduce them to Harvey... and he's bigger and grander than anything they offer me. And when they leave, they leave impressed. The same people seldom come back; but that's envy, my dear. There's a little bit of envy in the best of us.

A VOA of Red Line HP Euro Spec 5W40 Some Assembly Required Elemental sulfur is in everything. It's in the detergent (Ca, Mg) and it's in the AW package (ZDDP/ZDTP), it's in the moly and sulphonated ash is under attack. These two packages are tied together. The AW package is not just a good at wear control but a MAJOR contributor as an antioxidant. Pull back on ZDDP and detergent at the same time and the oil does not last as long. TBN crashes. TAN increases if esters are in play. The rush to Group III and higher base oils and their synergies was a partial cure so oils with large contents of Group II and lower chemistries were getting left behind. Unable to make the spec is some cases. But like always, the increase in oxidation resistance offered by the improved bases was largely offset by operating conditions as noted earlier and complicated by a reduction on SAPS. There is also a competition between the AW and the Detergent package on active surfaces and polar oils like that space too. This idea that oils have advanced and are far superior is half smoke and all mirrors. Not that some don't exist, just not a mortal can get his hands on nor are approved by the OEMs and the API for licensing. And still not the full story. RING seal is the elephant in the room. If they seal the mater doesn't matter. Poison that hasn't asceses to the Cat's poisons nothing. Low tension rings with DLH faces are still hit and miss in oil control and cylinder seal. Get it right and it's a beautiful thing. Get it wrong and disaster. As the later is more common than the former they crutch the oil to get it past emissions warranty. It's a mess. In the example under assembly the blender has reduced both calcium and phosphorus and added back next to nothing for Magnesium. Added some boundary chemistry, Moly and a good dose of EP additive, Boron. By lowering the Ca it makes the Zinc/Phos package more available. In part why I prefer the Euro blend in the HP series is this feature. Although this example is 'suggested' for Porsche C40 (mid saps service) it actually straddled MID and Full Saps. As my rings seal I haven't a worry nor a dog in that fight. I actually add a bit more ZDDP to tip it into the Full SAP arena. That addition increases oxidation resistance making an oil with a lower TBN act as if it were heartier. Moly also contains some sulfur and you would see in earlier versions of these oils a bit more Moly and allot less boron. The trade was a good one. I'm not selling or promoting this oil. I'm showing an example of an oil I have history with, experience with and took the time to stick with to learn what it is I know. I could have done the same with any other oil that gave me the access Red Line did. So let's stay on point and focus on the additives and the synergies between them and the base oil selections. It's a lot of moving parts and it takes time and lab work to fret out and it isn't for everyone. Any top boutique blender COULD do this sort of thing but a few are relenting to the pressure from an uniformed public to compromise. That does not mean you give up. It means you may wish to modify your choice. Modify your expectations for longevity of the oil. You can't continue to remove all the chemistry that prevents wear and long service life and keep the same maintenance intervals. BITOG has a pretty large VOA data base. Some current and some older. A tool nonetheless. One of the bigger eyeopeners was oxidation levels of various oils. Anyway...enough for tonight.

If you mean how long the oil will hold up? Generally, no. Oil is under attack by many more forces than shear rate. Thermal, oxidative, chemical, contamination and so on. Most of the list is dependent on power cylinder integrity, ring seal, and environment, both eco and operational. What it does indicate is how much safety margin you have against a few of these, like fuel dilution. Or coolant loss, overheating. One to be considered, towing heavy and fast. In those cases that answer to your question is a qualified yes. When we look at the link on these Polymers you notice that OCP polymers range in shear related losses between 22% and 60% at 10% by weight thickening at 100 C. That is the ASTM D6278 test. This is the permanent loss, not the temporary loss. The high shear 100 C losses are even greater, ASTM D6616. That 'feature' ranges perhaps 2 SAE grades! But it is how they hit their API requirements for fuel efficiency. Now look at the example of the Styrene-OCP MG 1000. What Torco calls in advertisements the 0-5 SSI polymer is literally taken right from the data sheet. Shear is 0 - 5% under the D6616 test an only 15% after a 20 hour KRL injector test. Red Line HP and HP Euro use this type of polymer. To determine then, using HTHS as an indicator, you need to know not the tested value at 150C but the polymer type and it's response at 100 C to all three measurements. D445, D6616 and D6278. When I buy an oil from the bottom shelf at Wally World, I'm aware the polymer MOST of the time is a OCP and so I vis up hard. At least double. If I buy a Euro spec bottom shelf oil that has an actual certification then I know the polymers D6278 is what they call 'shear stable'. I'm a bit more comfortable. When I buy from the top shelf (boutique) AMSOIL SS in example, and am getting top shelf polymers then...... It is a 'feature' of SS to be shear stable. That can't happen with an OCP polymer. I ran Red Line HP and AMSOIL SS 5W20 in Hondas for decades with great results. MPT30K avoids the whole mess by not using polymers and sacrifices low temp performance. And it's not just which polymer but how much and how much depends on the "Reach" of the oil not just the distance between the first and second number but the natural VI of the bases selected. Because I can't know for sure in every case what is being used, how much is being used and how hard the marketing department is lying to me....I bulk up. What I do know is that the original GM wear studies did so with polymer free Newtonian oils. More that you asked for and not straight on but we are working with professional liars and know it. I can work with that. Thanks for the thoughtful question

A VOA of Red Line HP Euro Spec 5W40 Some Assembly Required I always start with the Hersey number and the Stribeck Curve. Because that is the starting point. Viscosity. Speed and load are built in to the vehicle and the right foot. Viscosity is what is left. Every additive in the add package is SUPPORT SYSTEM and that fact escapes allot of people. Viscosity used to be a base oil property. The property the Hersey Number has it's roots in. Used to be and should be, because a truly Newtonian Fluids viscosity isn't subject to changing based on shear or shear stress. Only on temperature. I work with what I have access to and true performance straight weight oils are history. So what is the 'next best' solution? I'll leave the boredom of history to your research and others. Next best solution is a base oil with a very large viscosity index. If that is possible then ever smaller amounts of VI Improvers, VM's, are required and the smaller the volume the smaller the impact when they do what they do. Break down. It's what polymers do. There is also the VM Polymer quality and stability to look at and the most stable polymers are rarely used in OEM spec oils. But they do exist and are used in more costly boutique oils. Sometimes called 0-5 SSI polymers or 'Star Polymers'. SSI stands for Shear Stability Index. That would be the ASTM D6278 test and good luck getting those results from those that use the cheap stuff. It is hideous how unstable they are. Which brings me to my first point. Why I choose to use a higher SAE viscosity grade. Because I know that Wally World oils of OEM spec and API certifications are actually only the SAE grade they say they are under the least severe conditions of the basic ASTM D445 conditions and are obscured by the change in reporting methods under the HTHS ASTM D5481 test that report in cP instead of cSt. The density adjustment is killer. In other words I have to start with way more than I think I need to get "In Operation" the value the machine demands to good Hersey Driven wear protection. So there isn't a single base oil that will provide both the required viscosity AND the required Viscosity Index as a stand alone in anything above a SAE *W20 and that isn't heavy enough to get the heavy lift of a million miles done. Much less protect from process upsets...which brings me to the second reason for my viscosity choice. The OEM has, if any work is done beyond following the company EPA mandate at all, provides only protection for "Normal Operating Conditions". The days of Engineering use of a "hefty safety margin' is gone. But multiple ways viscosity can be compromised is growing in leaps and bounds. Start with fuel dilution of GDI and failed GDI pump seals that go undetected for tens of thousands of mile when there isn't any UOA protocols. That means target value must be reached in blending bases. Bar Bell Blends provide a wide viscosity envelope. High VI stacked on high VI. This can not be done with Group III's in anything above a SAE *W20. Ring a bell? Group III bases have a very limited and very low natural viscosity but a pretty good VI which means the go much lower than mineral oils giving cold start protections but fail to deliver hot work protections and you can't bar bell what you don't have. That job is left to either Group II's for most of the SAE range OR m-PAO's and Esters. Why Lake loves his mPOA's. A little 100 vis goes a long way, and pure PAO blends are so non-polar it can't be added to any great extent. Both of these better bases and not allowed in the read across. Esters provide both film and polarity. Addition of AN hinders oxidation so now the base is beginning to take on some other properties we find useful that will, once again, limit the amount of SUPPORT additives required. In the above VOA use of such materials limit the volume of VM to under or about 5% or roughly 10% to 15% less that that required in a Group III base set. Lets do a quick look at the total. PAO/POE/* give a very good natural viscosity, viscosity index and shear stability before any VM is added at all. This blend also provides exceptional Oxidation and Thermal resistance. In some cases better before adds than some Group II/III blends afterwards. It has a synergy that provides better lubricity than any single component alone can and the same is true, once again of thermal and oxidative resistance. Cleanliness due to polarity is very good as is additive solvency. Look how close you can get to very good without chemicals. But chemicals indeed will be needed. WHY? Because every ounce of advantage this blend brings to the table is offset by the OEM's control strategies of using killer heat and ever lower velocity. Hersey again. Big loads, (turbo on small motors), low cruising rpm and hotter than a BBQ pit and we have extended the OCI yet. I'll work on the adds in the next post. As good as this fluid is, it isn't perfect. No ones is. But we can get close..... Late Note: VM are the fastest thing to break down in any oil formulation. Everything you want to know about VM's: https://functionalproducts.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/fp-viscosity-jan2025.pdf

Now you're cooking! There are a few cooking shows I like to watch because they go into the chemistry, physics and mechanics of cooking. Once you know how, why and when certain things happen you can become a participant in an entirely new way. One that shapes the outcome instead of accepting one. It's also the reason I like to delve into those same aspects of motor oil and sometimes even fuels. Those things I mentioned, the LAWS of chemistry, physics and mechanics do not and will not change. What will change is your access and/or availability to the 'known, to the available. Having such a knowledge allows you to 'work with what you have' instead of 'what I prefer' to get to a nearly equal result. Super easy examples are influencing oxidation / viscosity and/or fuel map with water temperature or air temperature or oil temperature or head temperature, depending on the OEM strategies. Exacting best possible outcomes with operational modification. Even making 'best choice' within a limited selection or when you can't, make something that does from what is around you. MacGyver it. None of which is possible if you stay ignorant. Go back just a decade or two and "Professionals" were telling us not to mix this with that down to, "Don't top Mobil with Valvoline except in a dire emergency; then change oil at your earlies possible opportunity". And today? Anything goes with anything. For about 50 years knowledge got stuck in the myth mill and promoted like it was the word of God. It really depended on what was for sale and not based in truth. Now they tell us that you can lubricate with sacrificial chemicals for at times what they call "Life Time Fills". Yep, water viscosity fluid with tick chemical assistance. If you say so... https://www.motortrend.com/how-to/1906-whats-inside-that-bottle-of-oil-really-does-make-a-difference

I'd love to @garagerog. I have him ignored and blocked six ways to Sunday. I don't write in the threads he starts. A courtesy I am denied. I have his number blocked on my phone. Blocked to PM me. I don't want to talk to him. Don't to see him. Don't want to know him. But I expect you've notice the creative "Work Arounds" he's used to 'Be Seen' and continue his "Bait and Bat", and there is no shortage of individuals willing to quote his replies to me with whom I have no particular issues. He has manage to derail almost every thread I've created. He now has an entourage who tag along and tag his every word. They are all blocked. I've let a few of them, including him, back in from time to time on encouragement from better angles. Never do they fail to disappoint. They have options. Don't read my stuff. Block me. Ignore me and I've even suggested they do. I expect a sky writer any day now. He will respond to this Frankly I don't know what more I can morally do to deter this STALKER.

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When you bite on the bait of pleasure; make sure there isn't a hook in it. Thomas Jefferson Me thinks it applies to accepting invitations from those whose favorite hobbies include "Bait and Bat". Fall for it once and your adventurous and unassuming. Fall for it twice and your forgiving and eternally hopeful. Fall for it thrice and you need your stupid. I do not consider myself stupid. I do consider myself forgiving. Not the same thing as naively trusting. No!

In the Above Note that ALL Group V fluids are boxed out? Esters, Alkylated Naphthalene. O-PAG's. So unless the original qualified oil contained them to begin with, then replicating is as good as it could possibly get. You could not add a Group III or IV to a Group II oil whose original 30 W rating was brought about by natural viscosity. That equal to or greater than symbol precludes it use. m-POA excepted but wasn't really a mainstream thing in 2011 when the rules were drafted. Ops! Still it would be boxed out on economics. Oh, this is a well thought out plan. Oils like those mentioned in the first paragraph above live on reputation to survive. It also says that IF the percentages were low enough to qualify for a read across it would have a donut. So..... ya kind'a have a basement. Put on the coffee and open the link above and stare until the lightbulb turns on. Read each qualifying test. The only thing that prevents a POE from being API approved is the rule of interchange cause it blows the original bases out of the water in every test that matters. Much the same could be said of the AN's.

API Donuts and DEXOS base oil requirements Study this and contemplate what this means about getting an API certification. Then perhaps you will understand why oils like AMSOIL SS, Red Line HP, Torco SR-5 and many HPL oils don't have donuts. https://www.api.org/certification-programs/engine-oil-diesel-exhaust-fluid/~/media/files/certification/engine-oil-diesel/publications/appendix-e-rev-09-01-11.ashx Go to Practical Lubrication and Filtration and note the POSSIBLE viscosities producible for each base Oil Group. Then note at the bottom of the chart how interchange is tied not only to Group but to the original blends base oil viscosity and finally to a qualifying percentage. Give cost of certifications for coloring outside the line it should be easy to see how the industry 'protects' self above actual wear protections. Also note, as an aside, that the more refined the base the lower and narrower that base oil become meaning? You are not getting more than an SAE 20 from a straight up Group III. That oil is not just specified to meet EPA CAFE requirements but to meet the lowest cost bar possible while boxing out all challengers. Only the largest or most well equipped blenders will be able to meet the financial burdens. Mobil and Valvoline examples. DEXOS follows the same rules with slightly tighter standard on a few tests which make it look like something more than it is. It has darn little to do with how great the OEM Engineering staff is and a whole lot to do with $$$$ and exclusivity.

Whining or FACT? On what basis is a 7.5K, 10K 12K OEM OCI based on? In what world can an OCI be the same regardless of environment or operation? How can one standardize an OCI when so much variation exist in oil chemistries? Let's work that backward. Variation is limited by licensing. It's how the military did it. You fence the vendors in on base oil types and additive chemistries to the point that the blenders label means nothing. Then you fence in the user with warranty threats. The stepping back a level you divide environment and operation into two schedules. Normal, which does not exist but satisfies regulation and severe which is discouraged at every turn in marketing, fine print and even elimination so that most will use the inappropriate schedule. And finally testing. Testing that gets the OEM 'just' past it's legal obligations at the 'normal' scheduling. Oh, I'm complaining but it is not whining as it is not childish nor inappropriate to call out a system bent on destruction for profit. What it is, is fact. API standards are the bottom of the 'regulated' barrel and OEM standards are one quarter rung higher on that ladder of dozens of rungs. People are so used to having someone think for them that is pains them to even 'consider' a thought that is not in the mold. This has led to a bar set so low that over decades of practical experience even those inclined to be a bit more diligent and thoughtful are lulled into accepting crap products and crap services and happy with whatever that precipitates. So much so that reason leaves the barn. 200K is no big deal spouts the guy without one in his history. Nothing matters and you can do as you please says the AMSOIL user who is fearful of anything with more than 150K on the clock of his gas motors. I've been doing this way for fifty years and never had an issue says the guy trading every three years dumping them before the warranty expires. Where did people get the idea that the bottom of the barrel is as good as it gets. And when did liars that spend all their time in court defending crap builds become the touchstones of excellence?

$2.17 E-85 test E-75 at BP in Rochelle. Cheapest 93 is a Shell in Rochelle at $3.90. Mobil is up around $4.68. Most other in the $4.25 range. Saw stations today at $2.89 for 87 E-10.

A few have dipped below $3 but as many over $3.48 Our new gas tax took effect yesterday. Only a few cents more but made us second only to California in gas tax rate.

Oh Donstar, thank you ever so much for the quote. You have a good heart, there is no doubt. "cast aspersions," To "cast aspersions," which means to make unfair or disparaging remarks about someone or something. It is often used to describe criticism that harms a person's reputation. So as long as the rocks thrown only hit this old dog....... Disparaging remark is a remark according to The GNU version of the Collaborative International Dictionary of English is: 1.) Expressing a low opinion of; Fair: Fair means being marked by impartiality and honesty, free from bias or favoritism. Looks like the rocks are headed towards this old dog. Lets have a look see. Customboss disagrees with anyone who doesn't agree with him, which means he disagrees with EVERY EXPERT and LAB not bearing his name, in the field...and criticizes them all and anyone who prefers the methods they promote. I happen to be one that agrees with those experts (most of the time) and so he has repeatedly cast doubts on and belittled my work experience and my education, my earned opinion and advice to others and even has PM'd a PHYSICAL THREAT. He courted me like a Prom date to joint his club, couldn't do without my "expertise" then put me to the wall and shot me for exercising it and refusing to allow him to continue his BAIT AND BAT. My response to this absurdity was to leave his club and my works behind for him to mall and belittle (he did not disappoint) and state that I wouldn't let him grease a Radio Flyer wagons wheels following his insufferable behavior. That he had turned his Club into the thing he claimed to hate. Was that UNFAIR? UNTRUE? Was it dishonest? The punches I threw was COUNTER. Proverbs 20:11 Even a child is known by his actions, Whether his behavior is pure and right. Look to the posted images section for the pack reaction Point, set and match Now was that the best ME? It was not. The Radio Flyer comment was catty. I could stand there and let him strike me until I have no cheek left to turn. I left the room and he followed me...EVERYWHERE and his little band. Fact is I've used every tool available and he/they just keeps coming. He has sought out and destroyed my every thread. He's on a mission.... FAIR has no part in this.

23,941 Mile Service 2024 Mitsubishi Mirage G4 Sedan Raven 7/1/2025 3A92 motor, JATCO JF015E CVT transmission 1,933 mile OCI 2 quart drop and fill Red Line Non-Slip CVT fluid.

273,000 Mile Services Dizzy 7/1/2025 2015 Terrain 2.4 1K mile OCI About 12 ounces of makeup oil 5 Quarts Mobil 1 10W40 High Milage No filter

My my, what a ruckus. I leave for a few days and the kids are drawing on the walls with crayons again. Did I even mention that I like cats and dogs more than people? A cat does not judge you on your worst day. A dog loves in spite of them. Perfection is a demand of those incapable of perfection and those so inclined are incapable of seeing the hubris in that. I've made mistakes. I've changed my mind. Those two things are hardwired into progress. I like progress. So I don't mind making either mistakes or changing my mind. Fact is, it would be pretty stupid to not learn from a mistake. The primary difference between mine and my haters mistakes is I set my up in NEON so others don't repeat them. Ya never hear of a haters failures and they've made a bunch of them. Dizzy was more than a mistake. It was a perfect storm of mistakes. Lessons learned from that continuing nightmare have prevented the repeat in a half dozen other machines which are excelling BECAUSE of that experience. Really, how bad is it? A 300K mile failure? Twice as far as 'Team Hate" will trust a vehicle they've "expertly maintained".

273,000 Mile Service 7/1/2025 1K OCI and again only 12 ounces of make up! Less than a quart in 2,500 miles. So still OEM "fine" 5 Quarts Mobil 1 HM 10W40 No filter change this time. 6 oil changes ago I switched from 5W30 to 5W40. The first change was as horrid as the 5W30 but the next change was a significant reduction and it improved, incrementally then next few changes. Then I switched from Castrol Euro to Mobil 1 Euro. Not planned just the store was our of my usual. Not oil did it reduce consumption once more but at 1K miles, twice in a row now, it is no longer 'inky and stinky'. Oh, it's black in the bottle but on the stick looks pretty darn good. I'm not switching to Mobil 1 HM for any other cause then CAUSE I had a jug unopened. Be back to the Euro stuff next go. Fuel economy has dropped while the oil has improved but it is almost all mixed driving now. No changes after changing plugs and filters in that regard. But it has improved the more tanks of Nitro + I feed her. Offset in the fuel meter is dropping like a stone in a well. That's a good thing.

https://www.triaxlubricants.com/pages/about-us Not produced off shore. API licensed products along side some others that are not due to not having 'read across'. ISO certified. Same story as Red Line HP/Professional grades and AMSOIL SS/OEM and Torco and Evolve...and BioSyn....and... Where did all the hate come from? I'll bet someone peed in someone's Cheerios.