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Thought I had a dead rear door speaker in my 02 ECSB. Pulled the door panel, checked speaker, no sound. Bought new 5-1/4 coax Pioneer speakers, hooked one up, still no sound. Ran a jumper from the head back to the speaker to verify the head unit was OK, and it was.

Pulled head unit, found the dark blue wire to the speaker was open. Buzzed it back from the speaker thru the flex tube into the pillar, and it was good.

Looks like I have to run a new wire from the head unit back to the pillar.

 

Has anyone found a similar problem? Perhaps there is a common spot where this wire breaks?

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...Perhaps there is a common spot where this wire breaks?

 

 

 

The wire gets the most abuse in the door jamb where the rubber boot is. Might be able to save yourself a lot of work if yours broke there.

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...Perhaps there is a common spot where this wire breaks?

 

 

 

The wire gets the most abuse in the door jamb where the rubber boot is. Might be able to save yourself a lot of work if yours broke there.

 

 

 

 

Checked there..it was good thru the flex tube into the pillar.

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I'm pretty sure they run to the back of the cab in the raceway under the driver's side threshold panel. It just snaps off. Maybe it got injured there or by the emergency brake.

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I'm pretty sure they run to the back of the cab in the raceway under the driver's side threshold panel.  It just snaps off.  Maybe it got injured there or by the emergency brake.

 

 

 

Great tip...I pulled the threshold panel and the kick panel by the parking brake. Behind the kick panel are 3 connectors, one of which was not snapped tight. It was the connector with the rear speaker wires. Now all my speakers work. Thanks.

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Now there's something you don't see every day...

 

Mission accomplished. :thumbs:

 

I'm glad it worked out. I appreciate being thanked. It was a pleasure helping.

 

Plus now I know there's a rear speaker connector under the driver's side kick panel. Didn't know that.

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Now there's something you don't see every day...

 

Mission accomplished. :thumbs:

 

I'm glad it worked out.  I appreciate being thanked.  It was a pleasure helping.

 

Plus now I know there's a rear speaker connector under the driver's side kick panel.  Didn't know that.

 

 

 

 

Mike, you are very welcome. That's what this forum is all about!

I think there were 3 connectors behind that kick panel, which can be a bother to remove; I broke the plastic/tang thing in the process.

 

I'd like to upgrade the sound system, but don't want to mess with extra parts to make the OnStar work. If those annoying chimes go away that would be blessed. I'm looking at the new Pioneer DEH-P4800MP head unit as a replacement, and I'm open to suggestion about speakers, and I guess a subwoofer will be required to make Mannheim and TSO rock.

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Mike, you are very welcome. That's what this forum is all about!

I think there were 3 connectors behind that kick panel, which can be a bother to remove; I broke the plastic/tang thing in the process.

 

I'd like to upgrade the sound system, but don't want to mess with extra parts to make the OnStar work. If those annoying chimes go away that would be blessed. I'm looking at the new Pioneer DEH-P4800MP head unit as a replacement, and I'm open to suggestion about speakers, and I guess a subwoofer will be required to make Mannheim and TSO rock.

 

 

 

I bought a "last year's" DEH-9400MP on Ebay about a year ago for $320. And I bought a Metra GMRC-02 interface to allow the chimes to continue to work and to preserve the ill-begotten retained accessory power.

 

But the more I experience it (RAP), the more I'm sure it's stupid.

 

If I had it to do over again, I'd only care about the safety implications of the chimes, and not RAP. I'd get the Metra GMRC-01, because it uses its own speaker instead of the driver's side door speaker for the chiming. That would be good, because then I could adjust the Metra speaker (built into the adaptor) volume to a level that's appropriate. The door chime is too loud.

 

Then I'd figure out a way to not have retained accessory power. In my opinion, it's retarded. It's just some engineer's way of making things work differently because they can. It's technology (the self-important "data bus") looking for a reason to exist. Well, they missed the mark on this one.

 

Check the "view vehicles" under my sig. You'll see my DEH-9400MP along with my Cobra CD, demonstrating that despite GM's clunky efforts to do so with "factory" radios, the double-din receiver opening in the dash can be put to good use, holding both the receiver and the CB. (I used a Metra kit to do this.)

 

You'll also see my speaker setup, as it existed about a year back. I've replaced the subwoofer boxes since then, with an Infinity Basslink. I wish I had done that in the first place. Could have saved myself a lot of money and screwing around. The Basslink is excellent.

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Mike, you are very welcome. That's what this forum is all about!

I think there were 3 connectors behind that kick panel, which can be a bother to remove; I broke the plastic/tang thing in the process.

 

I'd like to upgrade the sound system, but don't want to mess with extra parts to make the OnStar work. If those annoying chimes go away that would be blessed. I'm looking at the new Pioneer DEH-P4800MP head unit as a replacement, and I'm open to suggestion about speakers, and I guess a subwoofer will be required to make Mannheim and TSO rock.

 

 

 

I bought a "last year's" DEH-9400MP on Ebay about a year ago for $320. And I bought a Metra GMRC-02 interface to allow the chimes to continue to work and to preserve the ill-begotten retained accessory power.

 

But the more I experience it (RAP), the more I'm sure it's stupid.

 

If I had it to do over again, I'd only care about the safety implications of the chimes, and not RAP. I'd get the Metra GMRC-01, because it uses its own speaker instead of the driver's side door speaker for the chiming. That would be good, because then I could adjust the Metra speaker (built into the adaptor) volume to a level that's appropriate. The door chime is too loud.

 

Then I'd figure out a way to not have retained accessory power. In my opinion, it's retarded. It's just some engineer's way of making things work differently because they can. It's technology (the self-important "data bus") looking for a reason to exist. Well, they missed the mark on this one.

 

Check the "view vehicles" under my sig. You'll see my DEH-9400MP along with my Cobra CD, demonstrating that despite GM's clunky efforts to do so with "factory" radios, the double-din receiver opening in the dash can be put to good use, holding both the receiver and the CB. (I used a Metra kit to do this.)

 

You'll also see my speaker setup, as it existed about a year back. I've replaced the subwoofer boxes since then, with an Infinity Basslink. I wish I had done that in the first place. Could have saved myself a lot of money and screwing around. The Basslink is excellent.

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Basslink looks intriguing. The reviews I have seen rave about it. I may get one and disconnect the rear speakers (now that I just got them working!) to hook it up.

Then I'll replace the front door speakers with something better than stock.

 

I noticed the Plato equalizer; if you don't mind my asking, are you in the audio field?

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...I noticed the Plato equalizer; if you don't mind my asking, are you in the audio field?

 

 

 

Nope, just a gearhead who walked into the audio toystore one day about 10 years ago and saw that puppy sitting there without its box for $99. I didn't realize I could control each channel individually until after I got it home and had fabricated a power plug for it.

 

My Pioneer head unit has a monaural subwoofer out, which I split and send to both channels on the Plato. I use one channel to trim the signal going to the basslink, and the other channel to trim the signal going to the Aura Bass Shakers. The trim was quite a bit different between the two.

 

I started a thread about 6 months ago about Aura Bass Shakers that shows my install.

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