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I have seen that there is much debate here over oil filters, at one time I used only OEM filters, but that was when I drove fords, now that I am driving a GMC I do not have a source for the AC filters close by. Anyway, my truck now has 110K miles on it and I have used K&N oil filters since the first oil change, I also use full synthetic oil. I know it is a little late to be asking now but does anyone have any negative experiences with the K&N oil filters?

 

I have had no problems at all so far but I got into a discussion here at work about oil filters and was told that the K&N filters were junk, I argued the point because I have always found the K&N products to be high quality, am I wrong?

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I have seen that there is much debate here over oil filters, at one time I used only OEM filters, but that was when I drove fords, now that I am driving a GMC I do not have a source for the AC filters close by. Anyway, my truck now has 110K miles on it and I have used K&N oil filters since the first oil change, I also use full synthetic oil. I know it is a little late to be asking now but does anyone have any negative experiences with the K&N oil filters?

 

I have had no problems at all so far but I got into a discussion here at work about oil filters and was told that the K&N filters were junk, I argued the point because I have always found the K&N products to be high quality, am I wrong?

 

 

 

 

I would say that whoever told you that K&N oil filters are junk does not know what he is talking about. I have been using them for a few years and never had a single issue. There was a test done on oil filters (cant remember who, maybe someone can provide the link) and the K&N filter ranked up their with the Mobil 1 filter for best filtering ability and construction. I like the fact that it has the 1" nut welded to the top which makes removing and installing a breeze. When 99% of people hear "K&N" they think AIR FILTERS. Since K&N's air filters have been shown to allow more dirt into your engine, some people make the wrong connection that their oil filters must be bad too. This is not the case however.

C & A s Dad Senior Enthusiast

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Just would like to clear up one thing about AC Delco filters. A C Delco is not linked to GM in any way. They once were but are now no closer to GM than Fram, Wix or anyone other co.. This idea is hard to accept because since the beginning of time, GM owned all or at least part of AC and you could buy an AC filter at a store or the dealership that was identical to the one that came on it from the factory. New GM vehicles do not have an AC filter on them from the factory. Some of them do not even have AC plugs from the factory anymore.

 

I am not saying it is a bad filter, it is just not OE anymore. They are produced for AC by different filter companies and to my knowledge, this can change from year to year.

sc4808 Enthusiast

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Thanks for the info.

 

I guess in the OEM world things change, I had not heard that AC Delco was no longer affiliated with GM but it does not surprise me. I'm pretty sure that I read somewhere that Motocraft filters are now made by Purolator, didn't Fram make the filters for Motocraft at one time?

 

Also, the only parts store where I live is a NAPA, NAPA filters are made by WIX right?

 

OK thats all of the questions about filter trivia, I guess I will stick with K&N unless someone tells me they have had an issue with them.

 

Thanks

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Yeah, my 2003 did too but I just assumed that the break up between GM and AC must have happened after that.

C & A s Dad Senior Enthusiast

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I can understand the 2003 coming with an AC because I thind the change happened after that. I am not disputing the '06 came with a AC Delco but the last new truck I had been under, the filter was black and used a GM #.

 

Maybe one of the GM techs who are under these new trucks everday can clear this up.

 

However, I do know there is no ownership in AC by GM. I guess they could still use AC filters just like they use AC Plugs in most of their vehicles.

 

 

I guess it does not make a lot of difference, the AC filters that I have seen cut open all looked pretty good. I have seen some inconsistency in the media and I am assuming this is because different mfgs could be supplying them.

 

BTW, Wix does supply NAPA with their filters. their premium line and their second line.

C & A s Dad Senior Enthusiast

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Hey Sam, that is why the ice cream store has 50+ flavors. I would agree that there is usually too much discussion on filters, but some people enjoy that.

 

I do not want to start another "filter quality" debate, but I will have to respectfully disagree with the 8.00 and 2.00 does the same thing theory. Most are decent filters, a few not worthy to screw onto a 25 year old lawnmower and a few offer some advantages over the others.

 

Being in the auto parts business for 25+ years, I have had the opportunity to see many brands "disected" by filter reps. This is why I will stick to what I just said above.

 

In the end, it is your truck, you paid for it and you can put whatever filter you like on it.

 

Nice looking truck BTW.

Schmids5.3l Senior Enthusiast

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Thanks Trey. After I read my comment I thought it sounded kind of "out of line" so I put the smiley face under it. I guess I dont do enough research on this kinda stuff to make any kind of judgement. I was kind of the beleiver that everything's the same, but you pay more for the name, but that doesnt apply to everything.

 

Since I have an oil change coming up in about 1200 miles I'll look into the "Wix" filters, I havent noticed them. As for oil im not sure, In my old Ford I usually ran Pennzoil 10w40, I think it was partially synthetic.

 

P.S. since you were in the auto parts biz, I might ask you about parts stuff down the road

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I have seen that there is much debate here over oil filters, at one time I used only OEM filters, but that was when I drove fords, now that I am driving a GMC I do not have a source for the AC filters close by. Anyway, my truck now has 110K miles on it and I have used K&N oil filters since the first oil change, I also use full synthetic oil. I know it is a little late to be asking now but does anyone have any negative experiences with the K&N oil filters?

 

I have had no problems at all so far but I got into a discussion here at work about oil filters and was told that the K&N filters were junk, I argued the point because I have always found the K&N products to be high quality, am I wrong?

 

 

 

 

I would say that whoever told you that K&N oil filters are junk does not know what he is talking about. I have been using them for a few years and never had a single issue. There was a test done on oil filters (cant remember who, maybe someone can provide the link) and the K&N filter ranked up their with the Mobil 1 filter for best filtering ability and construction. I like the fact that it has the 1" nut welded to the top which makes removing and installing a breeze. When 99% of people hear "K&N" they think AIR FILTERS. Since K&N's air filters have been shown to allow more dirt into your engine, some people make the wrong connection that their oil filters must be bad too. This is not the case however.

 

 

 

 

Not to change what this post is about but do you have any proof that K&n air filters allow more dirt to pass by the filter i would gladly agree with you if you have decent proof that k&n air filters let more dirt pass by. OO and i love all of K&n products have never had a problem with any of the ones i have owned so u know what type of oil filter im using :uhoh:

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