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I'm hung up on numbers because GM is last in this category . As I mentioned before the 6.0 is a fine great motor , a rock . Only issue i have is that its super dated . Last time i checked no one is flipping me off but I do appreciate your concern for me. Who said anything about a fast truck ? Who said anything about racing the truck ? While i agree its a truck and its all about capabilities , there is also something to be said when your last in every performance category when it comes to your competitors. With or without the truck loaded the 6.0 was inferior compared to its counterparts. The below is a nice report http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2017/03/whats-the-best-34-ton-work-truck-for-2017.html

Great discounts on the 18s. But man do they already look and feel so dated. Just my opinion. Can’t wait to get my 19

You think fords have no issues ? Or dodges are perfect ..please take a moment to go on f150forums and see their issues. Leaking Moon roofs, trans issues , doors that don’t lock , sync issues. Trust me when I say no truck is perfect. Also keep in mind gm sells about 800k trucks a year. We only hear about negatives here. While I feel your pain about your 15 and it’s problems , it’s just a small percentage

Great points sir

The new 2.7 is a truck based motor that gm built specific for truck applications. It will be a strong engine. , it ain’t no Malibu 2.0 turbo if you know what I mean. 348lb of torque before before 2000 rpm is impressive, and it keeps this impressive torque through out the band. You know a tune will easily out thing thing at 400/400 with forged internals. It’s not for everyone but something tells me it will fit in nicely when it come to sales. And it’s anothef option which we all like. Love the midget comment though. 😂😂

So are you also saying that the new 2020 Tahoe will have the same 355/383 output ? Along with obviously the 420/460? see I’m thinking the new 2020 base Vette will get a new 6.2 and then that will trickle down to rest of gm line up. When I mean new I mean with this new dfm technology but with a power bump.

Wow worse then gmt800? Hahaha Cmon now. Anyhow when I look at a loaded gm truck and loaded ford truck , the inside of the ford is just nicer. I completely understand that you have had problem with yours but not fair to generalize all. I just had a gm buyback on my last gm truck which was a 14 , problem after problem. Yikes but I know not all gm trucks are like that.

Well my eye test tells me different. And so do every other truck magazine/website.

Yeah yeah yeah i know the 6.0 is a rock , its dependable , its been out for years . I get all that and agree 100% But how many more years will GM stand pat on being last when it comes to HP/TQ/TOWING for the gas HD motor ?

I also think the trucks will get their new 5.3 and 6.2 after next year when the new suvs come out. By the way anyone see the new irs on the new full size gm suv coming out next year ? Finally!

I meant just a longer running board. Not the ones you described which are bad ass btw the current gm twins running boards stop right at the back of cab instead of going a little more down the dodge has them currently

Is it me or does the running board extend a little more giving access to bed ?

Cmon guys , we all know gms strong suit has never been interiors. Always last when it comes to interiors

Pics or it never happened:)

With 2019 MY, RAM is now the undisputed leader when it comes to interior/materials/screen and overall A+ on their interior. Ford comes in close second, and Gm is always last when it comes to interior. Its just how its always been . Biggest grip about new GM trucks is how they didnt spend enough time with the interior. Looks on the outside are always subjective so to each his own. Power train was a little disappointing given they dint do anything but add the E-Torque We still have yet to see this E-Torque in action , so it remains to be seen. Same with GM here. would have been nice to get a 15-20 HP/TQ bump on all models. Either way the new RAM is a home run in my book, I'm not a huge fan of them but you cant deny them their due. It just seems like RAM and Ford pay a little more attention to detail when it comes to the little things. Hey I love my GM truck ( my 4th one now) like anyone here but i'm also not a blind nut hugging brand loyal guy. Props is due to RAM