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From a manufacturer standpoint once you dont control everything inhouse, whats to stop the 3rd party IT from selling some of your intellectual design? They will claim it theirs after a few edits. We had Dxxxxxs (not getting into that publicly) doing ours for years until we seen our system running competitors machines. We only buy the components now and like you said we can do needed software updates instantaneous now vs 6m to a year for all the approvals plus $$$ charge before. Many more points to be made but I dont have the time. You also dont want to drown everyone with tech, figure the % older guys who are buying them now. Gotta find the happy medium.

I understand where you're coming from, but those guages all use stepper motors which also have a life expectancy. Give me a mechanical gauge any day but the mechanical I'm referring to are 100% mechanical. No matter what we get nowadays is overfull of computer chips and technology.. your grandmothers stove and refrigerator would last 50 years and it wasn't the controls that would fail first. I guess this tech keeps people buying too. I now try and keep the vehicles close to warranty just for the reason you stated

Yes seeing the carnage is pretty interesting/satisfying. I used to part out 6.0HD pickups. Usually they have a bad trans or Tcase. The last one which had the least amount of miles of all of them had "reverse out" for years... then the farmer said it finally stopped moving forward. Ok I didn't even ask about a 6.0ls.. made normal offer... brought home to start up after 5 years of sitting, engine has zero oil psi and a rattle. I think ok bad sensor possible bad lifter, I'll check with manual guage. Installed my snap-on psi gauge - zero ... At this point I know I'm not rebuilding and just parting.. Get the engine pulled and then take the pan off. It had a broken rod!!! And on top of that the quarter rod still hanging off the crank came around and punched a hole in the main oil galley... thats why there was zero oil psi. How a 6.0 with a ecu rpm limiter in a completely stock pickup can break a rod I'll never know. Just look at every turbo ls build on the internet with junkyard LS's

We lost a large percentage of baby boomers in the work force.....

Tear down and inspect all parts?? Send what you find "good" to machine shop for further evaluation. I will bet that you will find terminal block damage in that cylinder... minimum of a sleave in #2. just my experiences with dropped valves.

IDK, because stock on 1500s is dwindling right now. I didnt get as good of deal as most are claiming here, but I was glad I didnt have pay list.... But then again Ill keep my old pickup before paying full list

This late in the model year IDK if I would want to order a 23?

Whoa buddy..... this thread is about a current '23 6.2 to my previous '18 6.2. Have you had any time behind the wheel of both?

I missed out on a couple at Laura (like hours)... But I had a backup somewhat local and I found that they quit making them for a while so I took the plunge. Not as good good of deal but hopefully I'll have a place to fit me in if I have any repair needs I went with GMC this time due to my distaste of current Chevy design.

2010 6.2 to LT6.2 is a big jump and I believe it does make more midrange power. This '23 is adequate, just does have the mid range punch the '18 had. Right now I'm a little disappointed. Time will tell next month Ill have another 8 hour haul down to TRL, that will give some seat time in the mini mountains

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I fully agree on more shifts = slower ET. While towing/passing it down shifted once and hung out in that gear the entire pass. I dont know what gear that was as I am still getting used to this new display. I will also agree the torque management system intervenes quite often. With the 18 if you took off from a stop sign at full throttle each time it shifted you could feel the throttle pulling back and also hear the tire stop squealing until it was fully in the next gear. I have not performed any stop sign acceleration test yet with the '23, will after a couple oil changes.

I just recently traded in an 18 6.2 Silverado 8spd 3.23 gears for a 23 Sierra 6.2 10 spd 3.42 gears with Max Trailering. I test drove it very little and was generally just getting rid of the 8 spd before the warranty ran out. A few weeks after, our boat (pulled many times with the '18) was ready for pick up and on the tow home I needed to pass a few cars.. In which it just doesn't have the get up as the old '18 when you swing out for a pass... That 18 used to set you back in the seat this 23 just feels like a 5.3, I was really expecting the '23 to have much better mid range with the lower gears and 10 speed... Anyone else feel like they dont have the power they used to? If I had known it would be this lack luster I might have considered the diesel a little more. EDIT If someone told me this was a second slower in the quarter mile vs the 18 i would believe them

If thats all just change your oil sooner at 50% life. If its still going after 8 years I would also say your past any lifter issues Yes with the engines being 2 different generations you would need some defendant computer work on the whole system... IDK if it would be worth it

They're a damn good trans with the Sonnax fixes and billet convertor. I now wish I had bought a '14 with 6.2 and kept it. These trans were the best mpg/towing comprise.

I know others have done it with older pickups with out any problems. One guy i know didnt even reflash the 5.3 ECU

I have the same here, and finding similar temps under non-towing conditions, I never looked when I picked up the boat. I have noticed I dont have any shudders behind the grill like my '18 had, and I also wonder about the t-stat

You just got to figure when your dealing that its going to be a 2 year old pickup the minute you buy it regardless the miles. I once tried to trade in a pickup that was less than a year old, couldnt make it happen. When I did eventually trade it in 2.5s years later the allotted trade value was the same.

You'll take a 25k hit just driving it off the lot..

Diamond T.... you don't hear that everyday. My boss has a museum with 5 or 6 and more in resto process. Along with some REO Speedwagons, for the truck portion

FYI my 10 speed was at 130-140 running down the interstate today. (EDIT I have max trailering) I haven't seen that kind of temp since my 15. The 18 8 speed was never that high

I thought someone bought you a BL down at the local tavern ?.....

I am truly sorry for your loss. But even Stevie Wonder could have seen there was a wiring issue here with that list of codes. Its not GMs fault the dealer couldn't get it to be checked out, or the dealers fault you don't have a vehicle back up plan. Was that extended warranty(actually just an insurance policy) a GM backed warranty? Or aftermarket? - you might as well add this receipt to the list of items lost to your insurance company. As mentioned before, get a replacement quote for the pickup from your dealer and dont settle with your insurance for trade in value because your not trading it in... Also gather any receipts for maintenance, anything you have put into the vehicle this will be added on top of the 1st insurance payout. Secondly get itemized list of your personal items and retail values of them to submit for personal belongings. That will be your 2nd insurance payout. 3rd will be person time lost ie vacation days or injury and possibly car rental fees.... Be ready to negotiate on 3 different claims. During mine I simply told them on the car value- you just find me a replacement that all I have to do is put gas in it and change oil to drive it 100 miles a day, like I was doing last week. Mind you this was a work car but I went from a 500 offer to 3500 after a few phone calls because I wouldn't settle. They will do this on your pickup too, just stand your ground and document any calls!!!! More later if your interested

You have an air lock. This is why I always use a vacuumed fill on newer anything as they have so many spots to hold air in