radar scramblers

DrFock352 · January 12, 2004

I had bought the rockey mountain radar C430 detector/scrabler that claims to scramble laser and radar as well as out perform the v1 and passport 8500 in detection. It is hands down the biggest piece of s**t ever. Just putting out the warning to anyone who is considering buying one. It will be 300 bucks you can never get back. It can't scramle anything or even detect anything untill it's too late for that matter. And there claim to pay your ticket is bs as well. They will just give you excuses as to why your ticket is not valid for them to pay it. Just want to put the word out so no one else gets ripped off like I did. I just went out and bought the passport 8500 with the zr3 laser shifter (scrambler) for protection. Both of which are proven top of the line products. So if anyone is thinking about blowing cash on any RMR products do yourself a favor and get the V1 or the passport instead.

atomoverride · January 12, 2004

Thanks for the heads up bro, yeah I heard the v1 was the best to get out there. I borroed my friends v1 a couple of times this year and booked to LA from SF going 90+ the whole way and only slowed down when it was beeping. Which it gave me like 3-5 miles notice before I even seen the cop. Talk about top knotch hardware. After using it I would reconmend anyone who does some driving to get one.

carguru · January 13, 2004

Scramblers just don't work. In order to work, they would have to put out at least equal power as the radar unit. If it were to do that, the scrambler would require the operator to have an FCC license. For all practical purposes, anything that emits a signal has to have an FCC license. That would be the first dead giveaway.

My V1 (and common sense) have saved my hide many time.

RoadRage66 · March 6, 2004

Actually, anything emitting RF and sold and designed for operation in the US is required to have a FCC type acceptance number for its transmitter (receiver if applicable).

As for the operator license it depends on the band and output power; eg. ISM, FRS, HF-VHF-UHF Citizen Band spectrum like MURS, some SATCOM, etc. do not require it. It also depends on what FCC reg. the unit applies to. As for the legality of it thats completely different, people are not allowed to listen to cellular but they still do. Amature radio requires a license and that doesn't stop people. Everything is legal until you get caught.

Now as stated, the power output is very important. However, since scramblers appeared shortly after the radar gun itself manufactures have designed error correction into their equipment to combat this problem. Your best bet would be to have an emission source that would saturate the front end or even its IF stage of the radar gun, but now you are talking about a rather high power RF output making it very easy for you to be detected doing something else illegal (a far higher fine than the ticket itself) That said--scramblers are a pipe dream.

I rely completely on 'decoy speeders' and stay about a 1/4 to 1/2 mile behind depending on speed that way I'll see the cop pull out to go after them. This has worked for me for 12 years now.

carguru · March 7, 2004

I rely completely on 'decoy speeders' and stay about a 1/4 to 1/2 mile behind depending on speed that way I'll see the cop pull out to go after them. This has worked for me for 12 years now.

I usually refer to those as blockers. I've used them for years too. Lately, I've especially love those guys with Hemis. They seem to make the best blockers.

rhilton · March 7, 2004

I love the little riced up 20hp Honda Civics that try and race you. Act like you're going to race, then after the 30 secs it takes them to shift down and start pulling away, a good ole Camaro cop goes and gets them. Yeah that's right, I'm that guy that gets people pulled over for fun..

plus, even if I was racing him, 99% chance he'd get pulled first, because cops hate that ricer muffler sound, plus they'll be the ones to try and run. And those HP like to show what a few hundred horses and no speed limiter can do.

heavyduty guy · March 20, 2004

i have the valentine 1 and i dont have anything bad to say about it other then the price but you get what you pay for i always spent around 100.00 for radar detectors and always got alot of false alerts and sometimes it didnt alert me but the v1 works for me cant say anything about the other high end detectors because this is my first one

snoman · May 28, 2004

Scramblers just don't work. In order to work, they would have to put out at least equal power as the radar unit. If it were to do that, the scrambler would require the operator to have an FCC license. For all practical purposes, anything that emits a signal has to have an FCC license. That would be the first dead giveaway.

My V1 (and common sense) have saved my hide many time.

Actually this is not true. The radar unit that police use has to develop enough power so that it can read a echo from the "target". A scrambler in theory would only have to produce a signal level equal to or stronger than the echo which is far less than original xmit signal and would not be a dificult task. The hard part is detecting and using the correct "modulation/offest" to scramble radar unit you are trying to defeat as all modern police Radar is based on the "Doppler Effect" where as the base frequency of the echo is shifted a amount directly proportional to target speed.