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hey gang, how goes it.

I am contemplating getting rid of my 2003 Sierra 1500 4x4 extended cab for a 3/4 ton 4x4 long bed regular cab.

I dont do alot of towing. This will be my daily driver. I have a 87 3/4 ton 4x4 which is a beast and has hardly ever let me down. My '03 has cost just over a grand in parts in the year that i have had it. I generally think, with a heavier model, things are stronger, tougher, and generally, last longer.

 

Are the breaks (front and rear) the same on the half tons and three quarter tons? I am looking at an '04 model, cant afford the '05s.

 

I know the axles are different (love to get a full floater again) and the driveshaft is larger. Is the suspension stronger to be able to withstand a bed full of oak logs (the 87 doesnt care how much it carries, loves it!!). What about the transfer cases from model to model. Only intrested in the manual transfer case, not the pushbutton. I want to know that I can put it in and disengage it, when i want and know that it is engaged.

 

I love the feel of a solid truck. Going to be test driving several models here in the next couple of days. The half ton drives smooth (granted, got about 600 lbs of wood in the back) and is ok, but not what i want.

 

Would love to get the big block with the six speed Manual, but, the 6.0 will be just fine for me. The 4L80E is the tranny behind that motor correct?

 

Thanks for any input.

 

Lee

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hey gang, how goes it.

I am contemplating getting rid of my 2003 Sierra 1500 4x4 extended cab for a 3/4 ton 4x4 long bed regular cab.

I dont do alot of towing.  This will be my daily driver.  I have a 87 3/4 ton 4x4 which is a beast and has hardly ever let me down.  My '03 has cost just over a grand in parts in the year that i have had it.  I generally think, with a heavier model, things are stronger, tougher, and generally, last longer.

 

Are the breaks (front and rear) the same on the half tons and three quarter tons?  I am looking at an '04 model, cant afford the '05s.

 

I know the axles are different (love to get a full floater again) and the driveshaft is larger.  Is the suspension stronger to be able to withstand a bed full of oak logs (the 87 doesnt care how much it carries, loves it!!). What about the transfer cases from model to model.  Only intrested in the manual transfer case, not the pushbutton.  I want to know that I can put it in and disengage it, when i want and know that it is engaged.

 

I love the feel of a solid truck.  Going to be test driving several models here in the next couple of days.  The half ton drives smooth (granted, got about 600 lbs of wood in the back) and is ok, but not what i want.

 

Would love to get the big block with the six speed Manual, but, the 6.0 will be just fine for me.  The 4L80E is the tranny behind that motor correct?

 

Thanks for any input. 

 

Lee

 

 

 

 

Brakes are, of course, different. The 3/4 uses the power steering pump for power the 1/2s use engine vaccuum.

The full float is only in the HD the reg 3/4 has the semi.

Yes the 4l80e is behind the 6L.

You will spend more on gas with the heavyer 3/4 and the ride is stiffer.

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Moved up from a 1500 to a 2500HD a couple of years ago and would never go back to a 1500. This truck is much more solid feeling than the 1500. Have had 1500 lbs. in it on several occasions and you don't even notice it. Am running the six-0 motor and mileage is about 3 -4 mpg less than the 1500, but worth the trade-off for that extra power.

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If you are talking about the HD models, I think the T-case is the New Venture 263 model, and it doesnt matter if its push button or floor operated, it is still electronically operated. Not positive, but "manually" operated (Just like in your 80s truck) ended with the 87 models (91 1 ton and blazer/sub) they used to have a New Process 203 fulltime unit, a NP 205 part time gear driven t case or in the lighter models a NP 208 part time chain driven unit. Later on the trucks after 88 1/2 tons had the NP 241 electronically controlled t case, at least on my 94 it does, maybe the 88-93s had a manually operated still. Hope this helps.

 

 

rob :tear::jester:

mmmikkke Senior Enthusiast

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I had a '95 K3500, drove it 150,000 miles, and then I thought maybe I'd like a 1/2 ton truck, so I bought a 2002 GMC Z71 (1500). But within a year, I realized I missed the feel of my old HD truck. So eventually I traded in the 2002 on a 2005 2500HD. Haven't regretted it for an instant.

 

In 2005 the GMCs all had electronic shift transfer cases. But you could still get the floor mounted shifter in the 2005 Chevys and that's why I didn't even look at the GMCs. The floor mounted transfer case lever is definitely doing more than just switching a switch. It takes a stiff pull. You pull it from 2HI to 4HI, the 4wd light lights up on the dash, and you're good to go, in less than a second. It's definitely faster than the electronic (pushbutton) 4wd controls on my previous truck (2002 GMC Z71). The floor shifter is fast to engage, and fast to disengage. Big improvement, stepping down from electronic shift to manual shift, in my opinion.

Trouttrooper Enthusiast

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I had a '95 K3500, drove it 150,000 miles, and then I thought maybe I'd like a 1/2 ton truck, so I bought a 2002 GMC Z71 (1500).  But within a year, I realized I missed the feel of my old HD truck.  So eventually I traded in the 2002 on a 2005 2500HD.  Haven't regretted it for an instant.

 

In 2005 the GMCs all had electronic shift transfer cases.  But you could still get the floor mounted shifter in the 2005 Chevys and that's why I didn't even look at the GMCs.  The floor mounted transfer case lever is definitely doing more than just switching a switch.  It takes a stiff pull.  You pull it from 2HI to 4HI, the 4wd light lights up on the dash, and you're good to go, in less than a second.  It's definitely faster than the electronic (pushbutton) 4wd controls on my previous truck (2002 GMC Z71).  The floor shifter is fast to engage, and fast to disengage.  Big improvement, stepping down from electronic shift to manual shift, in my opinion.

 

 

 

 

My 2005 GMC 2500HD patrol rig has a floor mounted shifter. My personal truck (sig) has push button, I'd say they both shift just as fast. Of course my patrol truck is a fleet purchase so we get pretty much stripped down models which might account for the floor shifter.

 

Both of the 2005 models and are MUCH faster in engaging than my previous 2003 patrol truck with floor shifter and 1999 personal with push button.

 

I'd argue that the floor shifter from 2hi to 4hi is still just an electronic switch telling the front end to engage. However, going from 2hi or 4hi to 4lo you are mechanically putting it into the 3:1 range (or whatever it is nowadays) with the front end being electronically activated.

 

 

Man, I just got satellite internet installed today. This is TONS better than my 12kps dialup :jester:

mmmikkke Senior Enthusiast

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...I'd argue that the floor shifter from 2hi to 4hi is still just an electronic switch telling the front end to engage.  However, going from 2hi or 4hi to 4lo you are mechanically putting it into the 3:1 range (or whatever it is nowadays) with the front end being electronically activated.

 

 

 

Granted, in both cases (is that a pun?) the front differential has to engage electronically, but the floor shifter engages the transfer case mechanically, not electronically. Just wanted to clear that up.

... I just got satellite internet installed today.  This is TONS better than my 12kps dialup  :jester:

 

 

 

Congrats on the satellite internet. Does it use a phone line for outbound and the dish for the inbound signal?

Trouttrooper Enthusiast

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Congrats on the satellite internet.  Does it use a phone line for outbound and the dish for the inbound signal?

 

 

 

 

Nope, satellite for both directions nowadays. Whoohoo I can be on the internet and not tie up my phone now!!! Upload speed is 128kps, download is 512kps. I got the cheap package, but it is still like a supersonic jet vs. a bicycle compared to my slow speed dialup.

 

No chance of ever seeing any high speed land version of internet access where I live. Satellite was the only way, just was too expensive until now.

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what do you think the weight differences are between a half ton and a 3/4 ton 4x4 regular cab long bed. 6.0L vs the smaller motors?

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