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OCI, not when but why?
Grumpy Bear replied to Grumpy Bear's topic in Maintenance, Oils/Fluids, Detailing & Rust Prevention
That would be a nice work experience. Sadly uncommon. Like chess there are many variations, agreed. Greed has but one goal. Winning and keeping all the marbles. Deterministic vs Monte Carlo. There are uses for both models. I would have liked to explore the research generated, at least the inputs. -
OCI, not when but why?
Grumpy Bear replied to Grumpy Bear's topic in Maintenance, Oils/Fluids, Detailing & Rust Prevention
Actuaries Drive Oil & Maintenance Interval Requirements. Not Engineers https://www.soa.org/future-actuaries/precandidate/what/ https://www.casact.org/sites/default/files/old/forum_07spforum_07sp35.pdf https://www.actomate.ai/post/how-actuaries-drive-success-in-the-automotive-industry Warranty Evolution (150K in the title is highly misleading if you read the article) https://www.capitalone.com/cars/learn/finding-the-right-car/the-evolution-of-the-car-warranty/2759 Engineers provide DATA the Actuary uses. Research provides DATA the actuary uses. Markets and Regulation drive the boundaries this is all hemmed in by. The weakest part of this chain is the Market and it is Marketing's job to shape those markets. Finish the Sentence! When a manufacture tells you "You don't need more than 2.6 HTHS......" What he means is, "You don't need more than 2.6 HTHS to get past warranty and absolve us of liability". ****************************************** Public Notice No one pays me to say anything. I PAY FOR THE DATA. I pay for the oil, the testing, Research papers, the test mules, outsourced services, even advice. Anyone says other is a liar and a slanderer. I do benefit by applying knowledge to wisdom I enhance (organize) my knowledge by writing. How awful of me! -
OCI, not when but why?
Grumpy Bear replied to Grumpy Bear's topic in Maintenance, Oils/Fluids, Detailing & Rust Prevention
I know you're asking dyier2 but it would be interesting to know this basic habit from as many as would like to contribute. How long matters, right? 5K the marker it takes me roughly 60 days averaging 84 miles per day. 37,710 miles in 448 days. Much different service from someone that does 5 miles twice a day back and forth to work or school. He takes 500 days and never heats their oil fully. How about you. How long does it take you? -
OCI, not when but why?
Grumpy Bear replied to Grumpy Bear's topic in Maintenance, Oils/Fluids, Detailing & Rust Prevention
Saw this on the Forum's page under post and LMAO. See the bold red in the quote? That should read, "No one is publicly eating chocolate ice cream". Why? People have stopped engaging PUBLICLY. Privately? I'm more than busy enough answering request and questions on this very topic. PM's and Emails from quite a few members here. More from other sites. They stopped because of a few selfish members . Didn't stop eating chocolate ice cream, just stopped doing it in public. I continue publicly regardless. Let them know someone will engage without judgment. A BS free zone. It's why kids ask their friends and not their parents. Why a guy talks to his bartender and not his wife. The wife talks to her beautician and not her husband. No one is afraid of you and your posse. They just don't want to engage any of you. Why would they? Don't mistake this for engagement or getting out of the Ignore box. Don't expect an exchange or further reply. -
OCI, not when but why?
Grumpy Bear replied to Grumpy Bear's topic in Maintenance, Oils/Fluids, Detailing & Rust Prevention
This literally depends on your goal. Pretty sure I said this before. If your method is giving you the results you like then keep doing what you're doing. I also invited everyone that was already happy to discontinue reading and replying. Please...accept my warm invitation. So you don't like chocolate ice cream and now you want the world to stop making chocolate ice cream. Everyone should quit talking about chocolate ice cream. Punish or humiliate those that do like chocolate ice cream and deny others who would like to try chocolate ice cream. I get it. You don't like chocolate ice cream. So quit coming to the chocolate ice cream factory. -
OCI, not when but why?
Grumpy Bear replied to Grumpy Bear's topic in Maintenance, Oils/Fluids, Detailing & Rust Prevention
Enough Viscosity I'll get to 'how much is enough' question when I have a bit more time. For now a foundation of the viscosity wear relationship as accepted by the study of the physics, wear model development and private research of commercial interests. This isn't a topic for debate. It is established fact. It is not presented for debate but placed in evidence. Another wear model to show the effect of viscosity on absolute wear. This one pitting Group IV/V bended 0W16, 0W20 and 0W30 with a mineral 0W20 in reference. And once again confirming the relationship that wear and viscosity are inversely related. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40544-023-0854-3 Add to the other multiple published SAE studies. -
OCI, not when but why?
Grumpy Bear replied to Grumpy Bear's topic in Maintenance, Oils/Fluids, Detailing & Rust Prevention
Prime example of the difference in 'expectations' various people have for the same situation. He's not just accepting a preventable situation as normal, he's giddy with his normal and willing to do battle to prevent anyone from upsetting that warm fuzzy place he lives in... Bet he's even more forceful if he'd see someone sharing the view it isn't normal with others on some truck forum. Glad we don't have any of those type around here, eh? I'm guessing he is one of those fellows that lives by the adage, "I'll believe it when I see it". Wonder how that works for those born blind? Do their parents not exist? -
OCI, not when but why?
Grumpy Bear replied to Grumpy Bear's topic in Maintenance, Oils/Fluids, Detailing & Rust Prevention
You like stories, right? When I was filling up Pepper last the fellow at the pump next to me and at least my age was filling up a fairly new T1**. I asked him how he like it. He replied it was his wife's truck and he was just doing her a favor. He's a Dodge guy. Then with thumbs under suspenders he continues, "It has a quarter million miles on it and runs great!" then adds, "it's a rusted bucket of junk now but hey, Midwest winters and all" So I inquire, "Does it use oil"? He looked puzzled and says," It has a quarter million miles on it mister. Of course it uses oil. They all do. Started using before the first hundred thousand". "This one is just short of 200K and uses none." I offer He takes a long look...."LIAR" -
Interesting take. If I read the right you saying that to 'cheat' someone the word cheat isn't defined by morality or even by Oxford, Cambridge or Webster but but LAW. What the word means by Social Contract (Webster) or Morality (God) is irrelevant if LAW defines the word as circumstances agreed to by lobbies and lawmakers to mean something 'other' that what everyone who speaks the language knows it to mean. In that case I concede. No rational person can argue a single fact if the meanings of words are not first UNIFORMALLY agreed. I can punch a guy in the eye but if the LAW says punching is something one does on one foot and only if calico and I am neither then I have no guilt....according to LAW. Good to know... No to the point. 'Feeling Cheated' may not win me a court case but it will keep that person from selling to me twice. Only a fool lets the same thief steal from them twice. You have a nice day there sir..
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OCI, not when but why?
Grumpy Bear replied to Grumpy Bear's topic in Maintenance, Oils/Fluids, Detailing & Rust Prevention
Would I miss the mark if I said most people that read my drivel believe I'm in favor of selecting the oil with the highest possible HTHS viscosity and the highest SAPS possible? Would that be accurate? Oh, I think so. But is it? Not hardly. What I write is: "Use an oil with ENOUGH HTHS and SAPS" Once you get past the idea I'm not calling for everyone to use an SAE 70 Break-In oil the question then becomes, "What is enough"? Well,...Is it true that I believe 2K miles is the maximum any oil should be in service? Or did I say: "OCI is determined by testing if maximum OCI length is the goal". Okay, so what is enough and for how long? Is it rude to answer a question with a question? What are YOUR expectations and goals? Kido's, the arguments start when it is explained what is ENOUGH and for HOW LONG based on the MAXIUMUMS found in research anyone can obtain and your expectations and experiences fall well below that bar......Let me take the cat out of catty. Your right! Your expectations do not rise to a level anything I say will benefit you. You met your goal...being right. Be happy. -
I know I'm going to regret kicking this dog, but..... Until a court of law finds otherwise? Being cheated isn't something a court can decide. It can only decide if an ascertain WILL be rewarded and the act LAWFUL. Not should, not could. Courts don't decide "moral issues". They decide issues of law. I buy a horse. Seller told me the horse "Don't 'look' so good". I think it looks fine. Then I find the horse I bought is blind and I sue for deceptive sales practice. Court says I was not deceived and was told the horse "didn't see well". NOT what I was told nor what was meant. I'm denied my claim on a point of law. However, the seller knew well he cheated me and violated his "moral responsibility' to be honest. Moral correctness only matters to people with moral character. Law maters to cheats and liars and those taken by them.
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In the 40's last few days but has been for several weeks. Good improvement so far. Most noticeable into the wind. Blocks must have cleaned up the bow wave a bit. Like NASCAR tapping the grill closed. Tomorrow starts a string of low 20's and high winds. So...... We'll see. I have last years history to gauge it with so I'm not flying totally blind.
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Today is supposed to be our last seasonable warm day. 49 the high with light winds. Sitting in the middle of a slow mover low. Then tomorrow the highs for a week in the low 20's introduced with 40-50 mph winds as a polar high pushes through. Batten down he hatches.
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Wife and I shared dinner prep last night. She pan fried some Flounder fillets in EVOO and Old Bay seasonings and some oven baked (finished) parboiled 'smashed potatoes' in butter and seasoned with salt and cracked black pepper and I did a three minute blanch of Broccoli rosettes in drawn butter and English Black Tea. Desert was an apple cinnamon tea cake and a scoop of vanilla bean ice-cream. Digestif, Bourbon on the rocks. Personally I despise frozen broccoli. Freezing breaks the cell wall and leaves it as mushy as boiled fresh and neither has any flavor. It's a texture thing. Raw is good with some Ranch at buffet. But if you like the taste then a 3 to 4 minute blanch is the way to go. Al Dente, bright green, aromatic, flavorful lacking the bitter aftertaste of fresh raw. (It's why you drown it in Ranch) LOL. Don't bother with the Ice bath. Butter and salt is all it needs. Even broccoli haters might like it.
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$2.72 Regular, $3.64 Premium.
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Plugs and coils...Good to go. I bought some 1/2 copper pipe insulation and cut lengths to block the grill. Successfully so. Being the record keeper I am I effectively entirely blocked the CVT cooler raising temps to precooler levels AND inlet air temperatures up about 10 F AND getting the water temp stable above cracking temperature even at idle. Not having a direct oil temperature measurement for this motor and based on indirect inputs which now have those at mid summer levels AND single tank fuel results reflecting those changes.... Yea, seems it was over cooling.... Next test or two will bear that out. Quite a few miles on this OCI already so not going to see the full impact this go. That's "All the news fit to print" (Hee-Haw)
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That's more like it. Indy is a good team having a good day and still....
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A year ago I bought a new car which called for 0W20 oil. It had like 20 miles on the odometer. I asked the sales guy to have the shop change the oil (car was near a year since manufacture) and to do so with a 5W30. This car has a 10 year/100,000 mile power train warranty. The immediate response was "We will void your warranty". I asked why naturally. They said because the 'Book calls for 0W20". I had a home market owners manual and pages from the English owners manual on me expecting this pushback which noted the home market spec was 10W40 and the English cars 5W30. "On what basis would the warranty be voided, exactly"? They repeated the "in the US' line of garbage. I reminded the sales person and now the service manager who has joined the conversation that the Magnuson Moss Law placed the burden of proof for rejecting the claim on the OEM and must be based on PROOF the product I selected was the root cause for the failure, meaning a failure has to have already occurred...meaning voiding my warranty out of hand was illegal and actionable. He agreed I could get "all litigious' on them and I explained that not only could I but would. They pulled the waiver off the table they had asked me sign. Change the oil as I requested and noted it in their record. Charged me $100 for one of the eight free oil changes the contract provided, then went out of business less than six months later. Before I left I explained that I provided my own warranties and guarantees. "I guarantee that if I buy this product from you and have an issue you will not stand behind it will be the only Brand-X car that my entire family will ever buy from them. That explanation got me a new motor in a Honda Civic that had a casting flaw that didn't show up for a few thousand miles past the warranty (I had been bringing it in for ten thousand miles before complaining of coolant losses and water in the oil). I asked the look at my buying history. Three Civics in 15 year and asked if they would like this one to be the last. He took the keys and called me a week later...It turned out to be a "know issue" with a TSB they just tried to bully me out of. I keep receipts. Someone tells me so sad to bad that I spent $70K+ on a dead horse in 36,001 miles with a pending TSB and after winning that suit I take out an add and stop buying the mark. They will do what you allow them to do. They are good at frightening people and being bullies. But this is a case where law is in your corner and the suit is free when you win. You win by following the LAW and not the claim about what the law says. Reasonable is not a word in the OEM dictionary. Litigation is. I'm not sue happy but I am also not a door mat to be stolen from.
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Yes, possible. I might just need to stay short on OCI in the winter So here's one out of left field. I added a cooler for CVT fluid cooling. That required adding the Juke JATCO two way fluid exchanger on the transmission. One side is water (heater) as designed, the other is the fluid piping addition for the cooler in front of the radiator. Getting to wordy here but the fluid is now 50 degrees or more cooler than it was and as such the water side is also being cooled. I leave the heater off until the jacket gets over 140 F (light on the dash). Otherwise it take a month of Sundays to bring to heat. I have options. I can blind the grill aka Freightliner or I can add a fluid side thermostat. Which I have planned for spring. I installed the colder water stat last winter and it wasn't an issue and helped keep the trans heat more moderate but I might have stepped off the cliff with the plate and fin CVT fluid cooler. There was no other way to tap into the fluid without the JUKE adaptor. Sir I'm taking out better filters than most put in . I usually change them right after spring plowing and fall harvest. Need a mask in the fall indoors and a Scott Air Pack outside. That said most of the debris in the element is bugs and not dirt. Look nearly new with I take them out of service. The fresh air side is closed and supplied after the filter so I'm at a loss as to why silica levels are so unrelenting. I've tried a few different medias. Hengst, NAPA, Denso. Why that one lower reading, I can't say.
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Just spit balling here but as all previous samples were estimates and all <1%.... And this one was as well AFTER the paperwork was resubmitted I'd bet fuels has been above 1% for quite some time. Can't quite get the tech to see that for whatever reason. I didn't quit nagging so she eventually reran it. So initial was <2% (based on no paperwork and default Diesel Protocol), then revised to <1% (based on Gasoline Protocol and < 1cSt viscosity reduction) ...then actually run at 2.1% It was the first OCI at 5K miles (up from 3,500 - 3,750 miles) I check oil every gas fill and up to 4K nothing looked any different than usual. That last 1K miles got much darker. I know color isn't a final indicator but I use it like one would use white snot or bubbles or thin black inky/stinky to get a quite heads up on those other issues. Yes, Nox caught my attention. Broke trend. One thing that does not work in this motors favor is the fact it is so efficient that it is hard to keep hot unless you are doing long highway runs. The thermostat is fine. Just it's nature to be cold blooded. Like a Honda Civic HX. You could burn a tank of gas in the DY5 motors and never get the thermostat to open. Start driving and on the money. Another very efficient motor. Little waste heat.
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Got around to this job today. And as I had one changed the air filter...again The PCV is horizontally mounted and is a simple shuttle absent a spring. Clean as a whistle and free. Hit it with some starter fluid anyway, greased the "O" ring and reinstalled. Plastic body and shuttle. Plastic rocker box. No torque spec so hand snug. 36,991 miles.
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I remember where I was when that happened in 79. Sleeping on the floor at the Seattle airport. Our reserved room was given to customers stranded when the DC-10's were grounded.
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Saw that tonight on the News. Hard part to X-Ray or Zyglol. Odd position I mean.
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