That’s really strange, I thought that 19 was a new platform that we made forums for. Better tell the admins. Also weird how that 2018 has a 2500 badge. Didn’t know they made a half ton with a 2500 badge in 2018. I guess the more you know.
For shouting read, you’re doing a right terrible job of it. I told you I understand the Sierra, I don’t know how their packages work. I said I understand the chrome USED to be a thing, but it then stopped. This is the K2 half ton forum bud, it’s right at the top if you read. You can come off it.
I’ll give the Sierra, I know nothing about them. The last Silverado there is an older K2, and I see yes you could get them then, didn’t know that. None of my friends have one before the face lift, none of them would want the older technology to get the chrome Z71 either. So I’ll agree the color match issue is only post facelift. The HD’s run their own packages, like the Alaskan edition truck (which has a very weird set of features and limitations). This isn’t the HD section, and I don’t think the discussion includes them. We couldn’t say anything regarding a platform if we included half and HD in the same convo, as their packages rarely match.
Do you have a specialty local trim in your area? I’m looking through all my materials and Chrome front and rear was not an option on any K2 Z71 trucks. Nor was the opposite of color matched available on a regular LT or LTZ (the most popular non-fleet models). Centennial was LTZ Z71 only. Redline was LT and LTZ Z71 only. Midnight was Z71 only. Rally1 was Custom only (LS). Rally2 was LT Z71 only. Realtree was LTZ Z71 only. Spec ops was WT in black only. I don’t see any possibility outside of a low equipped Custom to get body color without Z71. So I guess Z71 is supposed to be beefier and the only way to get body color outside of a WT (which gets nothing because it has a plain plastic lower) or a Custom (LS without chrome)?
Yeah he might have a point if it wasn’t the only way to get a color matched model. Everyone that I’ve talked to bought the Z71 strictly because they didn’t like chrome. GM has made it nothing but a looks package to most. I avoided the Z71 strictly because I wanted chrome.
Exhibit A for cognitive fragility right here folks.
When I lease, I build in some sort of tire out of the gate. Because I find OEM tires to be utter crap. When I got my 12 Civic commuter I got Blizzaks for winter. When I got my 14 Fiesta commuter, I got Blizzaks for winter. My wife’s 13 Dart had a decent tire package for the year we had it. The 14 Buick Verano had crap tires, so we put on Continental DWS within the first few months. We felt the 17 Malibu was terrible on the test drive, so part of the deal was them taking those off and putting on DWS before delivery. My 17 Silverado has the Goodyear Wranglers on them, they’ve been alright enough to deal with. We kept all the OEM tires and put them on at the end of the lease, as the nicer higher performance tires were getting worn as they got close to 40K. But I agree on everything you said, I’m the odd man out on the tire habits. But I haven’t had to pay for any maintenance in quite awhile. It’s all under the lease since the car still has all its dealership freebies.
If you have more than a few thousand in debt, then you’re not in a place to be buying more than a small car or a very used vehicle. That was kind of a pre-requisite for the last statement. Unless you use the truck for work where it is a legitimate tax write off, a truck, and any toys you use it for, are luxury items. Paid by cash or otherwise. 1-2K in interest in 5 years doesn’t matter as that 40K purchase price was wasted on a depreciating asset.
If you’re paying anywhere near enough interest as to not be made up by investing your liquid, you got some shit credit, or not enough credit history to be buying new trucks. Money factor and interest is always negotiable as part of the deal.
I leased my 17 for a couple of reasons, none of which have anything to do with debt. 1. New trucks have gotten shittier in quality, I want an extended test drive so that I can drop the keys on the counter when the dealer inevitability to fix it to my liking. 2. No port injection means valve maintenance is when, not if. Not sure if I want to keep dealing with a vehicle hat didn’t have that engineered in. 3. I needed a heavier tow vehicle ASAP but I was not sure that a K2 GM was going to be very good, but wanted to give GM a try. I was pretty sold on buyout until recently. I have to engage the dealer on several issues now to try to get a resolution. Chuggle has, in the last two months, gotten ridiculous. Slamming up and down gears while at interstate speed has the wife unnerved. Service Stabilitrak came up, whole screen went black. Shut off and restart, still black. 150 miles from home. After a few more miles it all suddenly came back. So overall right now, glad I’ll just be able to drop it off at the dealer and walk away. Won’t be one of the poor bastards just bitching about how they are stuck with a shit truck.
heymrdjCW replied to chevyloco's topic in 2014 - 2018 Chevy Silverado & GMC SierraThe clunk is the new normal. When you have transmissions constantly searching for the lowest gear, downshifting to supply extra braking, and AFM kicking on and off, the truck simply can’t be synchronized well enough when the input comes from an imperfect human control. My F-150 6spd have done it, my 2017 1500 (5.3 6spd) does it, the Ram I test drove does it, hell my 6spd Ford Fiesta did it. I don’t really think it’s a reliability concern (my dads 95 Bronco shifted hard enough to bounce drinks in the cup holder when it was super cold). I just think in the era of fuel economy at any cost, this just has to be accepted as the new normal.
Some of it was discussed above. GM seems to be taking it into account as according to the 1500 conventional vs 5th wheel charts, 5th wheel gets derated as 15% payload reaches payload capacity for the model. Example is the 4wd Double Cab 4x4, 9,000 5th wheel or 9,200 conventional. 15% kingpin weight puts you at 1350lbs of payload when the trailer is 9,000lbs (if balance was perfect anyways). These numbers are supposedly SAE certified, which means the 1500 did this on a 12% grade to get these numbers.
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