60 Minutes II

pacodiablo · April 18, 2002

i was extremely dissapointed on their little thing on full-size vans. they indirectly called them death traps and got information from unreliable sources. vans are not as dangerous as they made it seem, people die and get hurt in ALL types of vehicles. i really hated the way they made the e-350 stand out as the most dangerous or whatever. i have years of experiance with e-350s and NONE of them have presented themselves as dangerous vehicles. these vans are not any more dangerous than any other vehicle.

General Lee 01 · April 18, 2002

I liked watchng it when they tried to flip it over and it spunout on 2 wheels.

I want a job like that.

Jpshostr · April 18, 2002

I'm not much of a fan of those big 15 passenger vans, they aren't as safe as most people think they are. The weight is way too high on them, lots of surface area for winds to catch, and everytime I've ridden in one I can just feel the whole thing swaying back and forth.

I didn't see the report on 60 min II, but if its like the reports that have come out several months ago, I agree with them.

pacodiablo · April 18, 2002

it was loaded with BS. they used computer simulation to demonstrate how easy it is to flip vans over, nothing compares to real world. then they showed a test done by a guy whose job is to flip over cars! if he doesn't flip over a car for his clients, he doesn't get paid, so i doubt he is a good source for info. i have been around extended length vans for years, they are more challenging to drive, but so is a school bus, RV or anyother large vehicle. school buses are just as if not more dangerous.

HiG4s · April 22, 2002

Years back when they did an expose on the dangers of 3 wheel ATVs it was just as full of bull. I raced ATVs back then and know the truth. But a lot of good it did, they banned 3 wheelers. They also had the J turn expose on Jeep CJ7s which was proven to be false. So they printed a retraction in the back of several big city news papers.

AU Chevy · April 22, 2002

HiG4, I agree on the 3 wheelers. I have an 83 Suzuki I've had since I was 7ish. Still runs great, just hate the pull starter. Never flipped it without doing something stupid first, like drive into a deep ditch at full speed.