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Guess it's time to drop that 6.2L in the Silverado, huh?

 

This sums it up for me.

 

It's almost as though Toyota built a 3/4-ton truck and honed it for half-ton duty, such is its unburstable nature.

 

I just don't understand. For YEARS the Silverado took a back seat to other trucks because of interior design, and a harsh ride. They now have a truck that rides smooth, has an excellent inerior and is overall a great value, yet they praise the truck that rides rough, has a not so great interior, but has a big ass motor?

 

It's gonna be interesting in 1.5 to 2 years when both Ford and Dodge have their new trucks out....

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It is a nice truck, I don't know why the F-150 wasnt included, not like its the best selling truck or anything.

 

I don't think the F150 would have stood a chance at all against the Silverado or the Tundra.

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This sums it up for me.

 

It's almost as though Toyota built a 3/4-ton truck and honed it for half-ton duty, such is its unburstable nature.

 

I just don't understand. For YEARS the Silverado took a back seat to other trucks because of interior design, and a harsh ride. They now have a truck that rides smooth, has an excellent inerior and is overall a great value, yet they praise the truck that rides rough, has a not so great interior, but has a big ass motor?

 

It's gonna be interesting in 1.5 to 2 years when both Ford and Dodge have their new trucks out....

 

 

that quote is kinda laughable considering that the silverado has a higher payload and higher towing capacity. to me it seems that a faster 0-60 time took prevalence over how much work can actually be done. if you look at the scoring categories, the silverado wins everything except in the powertrain. and the only reason that is is because the tundra is faster. id take the silverado in the end tho.

 

my other question is why does gm do that with the vmax? a 4 second wait until you get all 367 horses? seems kinda assinine to me. whats the point in thta? if someone wants a truck, they want everything you pay for on tap...that goes with any vehicle. so, gm, whats with the calibrating?

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This sums it up for me.

 

It's almost as though Toyota built a 3/4-ton truck and honed it for half-ton duty, such is its unburstable nature.

 

I just don't understand. For YEARS the Silverado took a back seat to other trucks because of interior design, and a harsh ride. They now have a truck that rides smooth, has an excellent inerior and is overall a great value, yet they praise the truck that rides rough, has a not so great interior, but has a big ass motor?

 

It's gonna be interesting in 1.5 to 2 years when both Ford and Dodge have their new trucks out....

 

 

that quote is kinda laughable considering that the silverado has a higher payload and higher towing capacity. to me it seems that a faster 0-60 time took prevalence over how much work can actually be done. if you look at the scoring categories, the silverado wins everything except in the powertrain. and the only reason that is is because the tundra is faster. id take the silverado in the end tho.

 

my other question is why does gm do that with the vmax? a 4 second wait until you get all 367 horses? seems kinda assinine to me. whats the point in thta? if someone wants a truck, they want everything you pay for on tap...that goes with any vehicle. so, gm, whats with the calibrating?

 

 

The calibration is due to emissions standards.

 

I don't know if it's true or not, but someone on another board said that if you put the truck in "tow haul mode" it overrides the 4 second delay and you have all the power on tap, which should give a power curve more like the titan/tundras. If that doesn't work, aftermarket tuners can override it. :cheers:

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The calibration is due to emissions standards.

 

I don't know if it's true or not, but someone on another board said that if you put the truck in "tow haul mode" it overrides the 4 second delay and you have all the power on tap, which should give a power curve more like the titan/tundras. If that doesn't work, aftermarket tuners can override it. :cheers:

 

 

so lemme guess, edmunds decided not to use tow/haul mode? and why would this be? hmmmm.....

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I really don't know. I'm not trying to imply anything, the Tundra DOES have a powerful motor.

 

Here's what another fella posted on another board. Again, not sure about the validity of it. He was referring to the Dyno chart on the second page of the article.

 

two things:

 

First, the the 4 second "delay" is not present when the "tow/haul" button is pushed (located on the gear shift lever). This feature (and I beleive the Tundra has it as well) hold shifts longer and changes the fuel spark curve to allow for better towing ability. My truck is like a new animal when this button is pushed. I wish Edmunds would have enabled this feature to allow a true reading of the Silverado's power output.

 

Second, the 4 second "delay" can be removed via a hand held programmer. These are fairly expensive (~$250-$300), but once again, it allows the truck to stay in the open looped calibration for full power potential.

 

Anyhow, no doubt the Tundra's 5.7 liter is a beast. Kudo's to Toyota for coming to market with such a powerful engine, right out of the gate. . . .

 

I'm also curious about the fuel mileage, they said the silverado was the worst? Based on all the readings and postings from this forum the majority of Silverado owners get very close to EPA estimates.

 

Something else that bugged me was calling the Silverado's styling "dated"??? Seriously? What about the Tundra's blatent copying of the Ram's grill, which dates back to 1994. Put a cross in the middle of it and you have the "redesigned" 2009 Ram :cheers:

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This sums it up for me.

 

It's almost as though Toyota built a 3/4-ton truck and honed it for half-ton duty, such is its unburstable nature.

 

I just don't understand. For YEARS the Silverado took a back seat to other trucks because of interior design, and a harsh ride. They now have a truck that rides smooth, has an excellent inerior and is overall a great value, yet they praise the truck that rides rough, has a not so great interior, but has a big ass motor?

 

It's gonna be interesting in 1.5 to 2 years when both Ford and Dodge have their new trucks out....

 

 

that quote is kinda laughable considering that the silverado has a higher payload and higher towing capacity. to me it seems that a faster 0-60 time took prevalence over how much work can actually be done. if you look at the scoring categories, the silverado wins everything except in the powertrain. and the only reason that is is because the tundra is faster. id take the silverado in the end tho.

 

my other question is why does gm do that with the vmax? a 4 second wait until you get all 367 horses? seems kinda assinine to me. whats the point in thta? if someone wants a truck, they want everything you pay for on tap...that goes with any vehicle. so, gm, whats with the calibrating?

 

 

When Properly equipped the Tundra can actually tow 10,800lbs, 300 more than the Silverado.

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The Tundra wasn't equipped with the proper tow package like the silverado. Properly equipped it can tow 10,800lbs, 300 more than the Silverado.

 

 

All three of these pickups are 4x4 full-size half-ton trucks equipped with a heavy-duty engine. While the Nissan and Chevrolet feature full-size crew cabs, the Tundra CrewMax isn't yet available, so we settled for a double cab. In addition, all three pickups are equipped with optional trailer-towing packages, and the Tundra and Titan are equipped with off-road packages

 

The Silverado was disadvanted as it was NOT an offroad package truck like the others. ALL trucks had the towing packages.

 

The 10,800 lbs of towing is only for the Tundra REGULAR cab. The tundra tested has a towing capacity of 10,300 lbs. The silverado is rated at 10,500lbs for the truck they tested.

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I see you edited your post :cheers:

 

Got that part wrong, huh? You're also incorrect on the towing capabilities. The silverado also has several hundred pounds greater payload capacity than a similarly equipped tundra. Feel free to look it up yourself. :D

 

It is unfortuneate that the Silverado does not have a Vortex Max regular cab truck to compare the 5.7L Tundra regular cab with. GM does have a pretty powerful regular cab 2500 though :D

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I see you edited your post :cheers:

 

Got that part wrong, huh? You're also incorrect on the towing capabilities. The silverado also has several hundred pounds greater payload capacity than a similarly equipped tundra. Feel free to look it up yourself. :D

 

It is unfortuneate that the Silverado does not have a Vortex Max regular cab truck to compare the 5.7L Tundra regular cab with. GM does have a pretty powerful regular cab 2500 though :D

 

I don't think anybody would buy a 1/2 ton to tow anything over 10,000lbs everyday anyways. Even though both the Silverado and Tundra were rated at over 10,000lbs, the Tundra just out powers it by a huge margin and with the 6spd transmission, I'm sure that the Toyota would handle any tow load with much more ease.

 

I'm driving an 14 year old F250 right now but will definitely be looking at the new Tundra as a replacement when its available.

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Anyways both the Silverado and the Tundra are similarly capable onroad and offroad. Its just like Edmunds said, the speed and power of the Tundra gave it the edge, but I'm sure once pricing is out, the Silverado will have the edge in pricing thanks to the massive rebates and incentives GM usually gives.

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GM trucks will have a 6 speed tranny soon. Rumors are by the end of this year or early next year. They jumped the gun on the silverado and didn't have the factory capacity to put them in the 1500's... yet :D But they were planned to have them from the get-go, unfortunately that wasn't the case.

 

Also, as has been stated above, the tow-haul mode makes the engine come alive... there's your missing horsies :) They ARE there, they're just hiddin by a damned computer code :D

 

Of course, I'd hate to say positive stuff about the silverado, this being a GM board and all :D

 

:cheers:

ZZ327 Senior Enthusiast

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Guess it's time to drop that 6.2L in the Silverado, huh?

 

This sums it up for me.

 

It's almost as though Toyota built a 3/4-ton truck and honed it for half-ton duty, such is its unburstable nature.

 

I just don't understand. For YEARS the Silverado took a back seat to other trucks because of interior design, and a harsh ride. They now have a truck that rides smooth, has an excellent inerior and is overall a great value, yet they praise the truck that rides rough, has a not so great interior, but has a big ass motor?

 

It's gonna be interesting in 1.5 to 2 years when both Ford and Dodge have their new trucks out....

 

 

 

2 words for you dude, IMPORT HUMPERS. It doesnt matter how much better GM or any of the other domestic vehicles do!

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