Great News About The Edge Evolution

[VMax2007]

Hey Edge Evo guys,

 

 

Just thought I'd share what I found out from an Edge Tech today. I called to get a few simple questions answered and ended up having a 30 min conversation with the guy. I am not going to reveal his name as alot of the info he gave me was "off the record".

 

1. I asked about updates, and he told me to definitely use the most recent update, including the BETA versions. BETA versions are fine to use and they only keep them "BETA" based on a time period policy. They are NOT experimental. Use the latest BETA release for both firmware version and calibration version. On the EEC2200 models, this is: Firmware 2.50.3363 and Calibration 1.0.3463

 

2. I asked if you need to return the truck to "Stock" prior to updating the EVO and the answer is "yes". But you do not have to return it to stock to remove it from the vehicle.

 

Now for the "off the record" info.

 

1. I asked him about Edge's plans for future updates regarding more customization and programming. Specifically "TM". He confirmed that "on the record", the answer is no TM upgrades are promised in the future. However, off the record he did tell me they are working on TM and the ability to manipulate/remove it. Probably about two months away. This is awesome news!!! I am keeping my fingers crossed, because as much as I like and am happy with the Edge and the performance it provides, I still hate the Throttle hesitation due to TM.

 

2. We also talked alot about fuel octane. He recommends using 91+ octane in ALL of the tunes, even economy. He said the price difference will be made up in extra MPG. That remains to be seen. But he did say that the engine will run better on 91+ due to improved fuel mapping. When you run 87 octane, the knock sensors will adjust for it, but it is at the end of the range of the fuel mapping and the performance of the engine (spark timing, etc) is reduced. Basically, these higher compression engines will be "happier" on 91 octane. If I can offset at least half of the added cost of 91 octane with added MPGs, I will do it, otherwise I will either compromise and run mid-grade 89 or 87, especially in the winter when I never tow.

 

3. I asked about my specific towing application and explained that with my 3000 lb boat, using the Tow tune and Tow/Haul mode seemed excessive (high RPMs and high shift points). He said don't use Tow/Haul mode with Towing tune, especially with only 3000 lbs. He said I could use the Extreme tune with Tow/Haul mode for my 3000 lb boat. I mentioned that the manual said this was a no-no, and he said the manual is VERY conservative and with a small load like mine it will be fine. Just watch the temps and don't be real aggressive on the hills and it will be just fine and will provide much better fuel economy. Basically, he seemed to suggest the Extreme tune is the best for all-around use for best fuel economy and performance.

 

4. We then talked about the Throttle response and the delay. He agreed it was TM, but he made the following recommendations to improve it after installing the tune. Disconnect your battery overnight to reset all of the adaptive learning your ECM and TCM has. In the morning, hook it back up and load your tune, then start the truck WITHOUT touching the throttle and let it idle for at least 3 minutes. This will reset the TPS (throttle pos sensor) and allow it to relearn with the new tune installed. Same with the Tranny adaptivity. Letting these relearn with the newly tuned PCM/TCM should optimize the shifts and the TPS.

 

Hope this helps.

[jackster06Z71]

so would you recomend the edge over the others. i am debating that , but i like the guages you get with the evo. now that you have the edge Can you spin the tires with your 6.0 in extreme mode?? My 07 nbs 5.3 will break loose and smoke but not always. thanks Jack

[VMax2007]

so would you recomend the edge over the others. i am debating that , but i like the guages you get with the evo. now that you have the edge Can you spin the tires with your 6.0 in extreme mode?? My 07 nbs 5.3 will break loose and smoke but not always. thanks Jack

 

I can't say because I have nothing to compare it to. But I am happy with it and will be even happier when/if they update them to be able to alter TM. Since TM is still there, I can "chirp" the tires, but that's it. What's pretty impressive to me is the fact that even with a noticeable delay out of the hole, it still does 0-60 in the low 7's. I can pretty much guarantee you that TM costs you at least 1-1.5 secs out of the hole, so with TM removed, it would be in the low 6's. If you absolutely want TM removed, I recommend waiting for Edge to incorporate TM control or go with a custom tune. But I chose the Edge because I liked the functionality and the improved power, shifts and throttle response. If they do not come through with TM removal capability, I may go with a custom tune someday after the warranty expires. They should be really good at them by then. In the meantime, I am happy with this, MUCH better than stock tune, no question about that.

 

FYI, TM is used much more extensively in the 6.0's vs the 5.3's, so you should benefit even more from one of these. At least out of the hole anyway. Once TM delay is up, look out though, these 6.0's fly.

[Paul58]

And the Edge looks cool!

[TheColter]

And the Edge looks cool!

 

Now you need to change the LCD color to match your gauges.

 

I use these settings and it matches my factory gauges perfectly:

 

Red: 45

Green: 80

Blue: 50

 

and then 20% on the backlight.

[Paul58]

And the Edge looks cool!

 

Now you need to change the LCD color to match your gauges.

 

I use these settings and it matches my factory gauges perfectly:

 

Red: 45

Green: 80

Blue: 50

 

and then 20% on the backlight.

 

 

Awesome! Thanks... Is the backlight 20% or the Contrast 20%?

[TheColter]

I left the contrast alone. The brightness is adjustable while the different gauges are visible by pressing the up and down buttons in intervals of 10%.

[Paul58]

I left the contrast alone. The brightness is adjustable while the different gauges are visible by pressing the up and down buttons in intervals of 10%.

 

Gotcha! What is your Contrast set at? I've screwed with mine so much I can't remember what the default setting is!

[spartus]

Now Edge just needs to add the option for DISABLE AFM.... I've sent them two Emails asking if this could be added, but have not heard anything back. As often as mine switches back and forth I believe I'm loosing fuel economy as the truck jerks and steps on the gas when it switches back into V4 mode...

[TheColter]

I left the contrast alone. The brightness is adjustable while the different gauges are visible by pressing the up and down buttons in intervals of 10%.

 

Gotcha! What is your Contrast set at? I've screwed with mine so much I can't remember what the default setting is!

 

 

 

Contrast is set at 35 I believe.

[VMax2007]

Now Edge just needs to add the option for DISABLE AFM.... I've sent them two Emails asking if this could be added, but have not heard anything back. As often as mine switches back and forth I believe I'm loosing fuel economy as the truck jerks and steps on the gas when it switches back into V4 mode...

 

Huh? Not sure what you are saying here? I am not convinced AFM saves much of anything either, BUT, mine is smooth as silk and if not for the DIC, I would never know it exists. If you are feeling any "jerking", I would bring it to your dealer. I believe there is a software upgrade and you may need a re-flash.

[AgDoctor]

I never feel mine. If I am not watching the V8 and V4 symbols I would never know. I think that they should figure a way to make it stay in more, that is if it would get better fuel economy.