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2000DV4.8 Senior Enthusiast

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I have a vibration coming from the front drivers side wheel, so I jacked the truck up, and started wiggling the wheel around. It has a significant amount of 12-6 play (grabbed it at top and bottom, and wiggled it). I initially thought balljoint, but I jacked it up again today to take a closer look, and the wheel is moving independent of the knuckle, so it can't be a balljoint (yes, the lugs are tight). Where else could this play be coming from? Wheel bearing? Thanks :rollin:

 

 

 

On a side note, I found something else that worries me. Something (the wheel) has been rubbing on a brake line, and is starting to wear it away! Sorry for the crappy pics, They're fom my phone.

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Draenor Senior Enthusiast

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Sometime just wiggling does not isolate a ball joint. What I usually do is jack up the truck and get my big prybar and wedge it in the knuckle and force the upper or lower a arm. If there is any movement its the ball joint.

Wheel bearings usually make a wirring sound,especially in turning, when they are going out. It could also be the a arm bushings going bad.

Seeing you have a 4X4 it is may be the hub assembly, most likely cause. Have you noticed any play in the steering? Any uneven wear in the tires?

 

From the pics the brak line looks like it is run correctly....dunno

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Sometime just wiggling does not isolate a ball joint. What I usually do is jack up the truck and get my big prybar and wedge it in the knuckle and force the upper or lower a arm. If there is any movement its the ball joint.

Wheel bearings usually make a wirring sound,especially in turning, when they are going out. It could also be the a arm bushings going bad.

Seeing you have a 4X4 it is may be the hub assembly, most likely cause. Have you noticed any play in the steering? Any uneven wear in the tires?

 

From the pics the brak line looks like it is run correctly....dunno

 

 

No uneven tire wear. The play is occuring somewhere between the wheel, and before the knuckle, so it couldn't be an a-arm bushing. How involved would replacing the hub assembly be?

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wheel bearing, do em all the time. wiggle it up and down and watch the knuckle. it shouldnt move a bit but you wheel will still be movin up and down. thats a bearing. side to side would be tie rod ends/ idler/pitman arms etc etc

 

replacing a hub is easy as pie

Draenor Senior Enthusiast

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Yah its sounds like it on its way out.

 

Its not hard to do, I can knowck both out in the driveway in a hour or two. Thats if everything is not all rusting to hell.

I would invest in a manual, either chilton or haynes.

Pretty much its a 36mm (id have to go double check)axle nut followed by the hub assembly nuts.

2000DV4.8 Senior Enthusiast

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Cool thanks guys. I already have a Haynes, looks like I have some reading to do while I eat dinner. Boy am I glad this isn't a ball joint...

 

Ok, now I got a stupid question: I wouldn't need an alignment after doing this, would I?

Zembonez Senior Enthusiast

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Cool thanks guys. I already have a Haynes, looks like I have some reading to do while I eat dinner. Boy am I glad this isn't a ball joint...

 

Ok, now I got a stupid question: I wouldn't need an alignment after doing this, would I?

Technically you don't need to do an alignment after replacing the bearing / hub assy. Might not be a bad idea to get one in the near future though.

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Ok, so I have all the bolts removed, the axle nut is off, and the axle splines will slide in the hub. But the whole thing is rusted/seized to the knuckle. :lol: The Haynes book said to hit it with a hammer if it didn't come off, so I hit it quite a few times with a hamer, sprayed it with some WD40, hit it some more, sprayed it again, went to Sears to replace the 18mm socket that broke, tried to get it off again, and hit it a few more times. I just drenched it in WD40, and I'm going to let it sit over night, and try to get it off tomorrow. Anybody have any tips on getting the durn thing off? :lol:

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Ok, so I have all the bolts removed, the axle nut is off, and the axle splines will slide in the hub. But the whole thing is rusted/seized to the knuckle. :lol: The Haynes book said to hit it with a hammer if it didn't come off, so I hit it quite a few times with a hamer, sprayed it with some WD40, hit it some more, sprayed it again, went to Sears to replace the 18mm socket that broke, tried to get it off again, and hit it a few more times. I just drenched it in WD40, and I'm going to let it sit over night, and try to get it off tomorrow. Anybody have any tips on getting the durn thing off? :lol:

Knock the Shiite out of it. Make sure you hit the part you are replacing. It will eventually break free. There isn't a lot of the knuckle for it to stick to.

 

EDIT: I'm sure this is obvious but... make sure you have all of the bolts out of it. THEN knock the SHIITE out of it.

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Ok, so I have all the bolts removed, the axle nut is off, and the axle splines will slide in the hub. But the whole thing is rusted/seized to the knuckle. :lol: The Haynes book said to hit it with a hammer if it didn't come off, so I hit it quite a few times with a hamer, sprayed it with some WD40, hit it some more, sprayed it again, went to Sears to replace the 18mm socket that broke, tried to get it off again, and hit it a few more times. I just drenched it in WD40, and I'm going to let it sit over night, and try to get it off tomorrow. Anybody have any tips on getting the durn thing off? :lol:

Knock the Shiite out of it. Make sure you hit the part you are replacing. It will eventually break free. There isn't a lot of the knuckle for it to stick to.

 

EDIT: I'm sure this is obvious but... make sure you have all of the bolts out of it. THEN knock the SHIITE out of it.

 

 

 

Yeah, I checked for extra bolts a few times. I'll probably end up checking about 10 more times too :crackup: And I have hit it pretty hard. Maybe it's time to step up to the sledgehammer... :cheers:

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How did this come out???

 

 

Well, after much beating with a sledgehammer (technically it was a maul, but whatever) I got the old one out, cleaned off as much of the rust as I could, greased the hell out of everything, and the new hub went in without any problems. So I'm all happy, and I take it out for a test drive, and as soon as I get up to 60mph, there's the vibration again, but not as pronounced. I was thinking that maybe driving about 2k with the bad bearing might've worn the tire a little funny, so today I rotated the tires, and the vibration is even less noticeable now, and it followed the tire to the rear of the truck. So either I was right and the tire is worn a little funny, or I have a bad tire. I think, and hope that it's just worn weird. Time will tell I guess.

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