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GM does not need to produce a quality vehicle as long as the consumer continues to purchase. GM is banking on customer loyalty. Eventually, that loyalty will dry up as the younger generation of consumers could care less.

Considering GM has never been at the forefront of electrical technology and is decades behind companies like Toyota and Tesla, I'd pass on ever purchasing a GM electric truck. It would spend more time in the shop attempting to be repaired than actually driven.

Quite the opposite when heading over to a Toyota forum. Owners spend their hard earned quality time actually enjoying their bulletproof reliable vehicles and posting pics of great outdoor adventures.

Toyota is intelligent enough to not release unproven and unreliable garbage to market and allow their customer base to be guinea pigs. One would think companies such as Caterpillar, Detroit Diesel, Mercedes, and Isuzu have got it figured out since there are millions of these engines used in various vehicles on the road each day.

looks like a “Professional Grade” job

one would think an intelligent GM engineer would build this logic into their software.

GM is more interested in quarterly profits.

There is no reason why today’s electronics heavy vehicles can’t record every instance an indicator lights up on the instrument cluster signaling a malfunction/fault.

Perhaps General Motors' heavily subsidized iseecars.com and J.D. Power can team up to create a new prime time television commercial. The commercial will depict an innocent mother driving her three kids to school. She briefly glances in her rear-view mirror as everyone is frantically braking at an oncoming stop light. When the she spots the big Chevrolet Bowtie badge quickly approaching, she instinctively changes lanes to prevent being rear-ended. Then the commercial abruptly changes scenes to depict a large showroom with assortment of GM cars & trucks and hundreds of loyal GM customers which are nothing more than paid television actors. The Chevrolet spokesman informs the audience that GM trucks are the most dependable, longest lasting, highest quality, safest vehicles on the road four years in a row with a jaw-dropping MultiPro tailgate.

There is no reason why today’s electronics heavy vehicles can’t record every instance an indicator lights up on the instrument cluster signaling a malfunction/fault. GM simply chooses to not incorporate this logic into their software. It’s more economical for GM to simply tell you, “sorry, unable to duplicate” Works out well for GM when you total your truck and innocent people get killed. As the lawsuits start to pile up for faulty braking and steering issues, GM lawyers will simply say, “prove it”

There is no reason why today’s electronics heavy vehicles can’t record every instance an indicator lights up on the instrument cluster signaling a malfunction/fault. GM simply chooses to not incorporate this logic into their software. It’s more economical for GM to simply tell you, “sorry, unable to duplicate” Works out well for GM when you total your truck and innocent people get killed. As the lawsuits start to pile up for faulty braking and steering issues, GM lawyers will simply say, “prove it”

Well that would sure give you a warm fuzzy feeling while towing the travel trailer down from the mountains with your wife and kids in the truck

There is no reason why today’s electronics heavy vehicles can’t record every instance an indicator lights up on the instrument cluster signaling a malfunction/fault.  GM simply chooses to not incorporate this logic into their software. It’s more economical for GM to simply tell you, “sorry, unable to duplicate”

There is no reason why today’s electronics heavy vehicles can’t record every instance an indicator lights up on the instrument cluster signaling a malfunction/fault. GM simply chooses to not incorporate this logic into their software. It’s more economical for GM to simply tell you, “sorry, unable to duplicate”

It’s been happening since 1997, when GM introduced their VSS (variable speed steering). Thousands of complaints filed with NHTSA. Not one recall ever issued for erratic steering.

The actuaries at General Motors have determined it’s more economical for you and your family to die in a horrific car crash and settle the lawsuit out of court. Issuing a recall for their defective systems would cost hundreds of millions and spread across several vehicle product lines.

Hey.....GM designed a technological marvel of a multi-position tailgate.

So Toyota is purposely steering the consumer away from purchasing high profit Tundra’s because of limited availability? One would think that Toyota with such an expansive lineup of high mileage vehicles, they could sell a million Tundra’s a year and it wouldn’t put a dent in their CAFE numbers. Sounds like GM is putting all of their eggs in one basket. If they miscalculate, all GM has to do is tell Uncle Sam they are too big to fail and big government will gladly fork over another $50 billion taxpayer funded bailout to keep them afloat for another 10 years. Is GM thriving or merely surviving......

Curious as to why the Tundra doesn’t have AFM then, since they are sold in the United States? They get horrendous gas mileage.

GM doesn’t need to produce a high quality product with long term reliability as long as the consumer continues to purchase.

102,000 miles logged in on the odometer of my 07’ 4Runner. The only light that has ever come on in the dash is the maintenance light to remind me to change my oil every 7,500 miles. That’s it. Period. Driving my Crapota is truly a, “oh, what a feeling” experience. So nice to finally drive a maintenance-free vehicle. I can actually enjoy life now rather than spend every weekend trying to diagnose a CEL issue, track down a fluid leak, or replace a failing/ failed components. No reservations whatsoever giving my wife the set of keys to drive it whenever and wherever she wants. You wanna learn about true dependability.....head on over to the Toyota and Honda forums to educate yourself.

Makes you want to load the family into the truck and take a nice scenic drive through the mountains

Sad to see GM becoming a Found On Road Dead quality of truck

sounds like the best thing to do is run it until the engine seizes up.

GM's actuaries have determined that it is more cost effective to simply offer an extended warranty. Fixing the issue cost money and GM is betting the out of pocket expense to settle lawsuits involving fatalities and damage to property is far less. Sure gives you a warm fuzzy feeling knowing the next time your wife takes the GM vehicle on a road trip packed full of kids, it could be the last time you see them, eh?