Indentification of Dually Wheels

[MrSteve]

Moved this post to the right forum section.

 

Hello all,

 

I need to tap the combined brainage of the forum. I recently picked up some dually wheels. They are 8 lug, 16" and are supposed to be GM. The bolt pattern matches my 88 GMC perfect. The only strange thing about them is the tire air stem. The air stem is actually on the inside of the wheel vs. on the outer face of the wheel. The air stem prevents the wheel from seating against the brake drum as the drum hits the air stem. Also, the way the wheel is constructed looks different and at least one has the following information factory engraved on the wheel as best that I can see. It is engraved with Firestone very clearly. With somelhing like ACS RIDE underneigth it. It as the following numbers as well: 273 (could be 8) 91 and underneigth that is: 1028 752. Here are some pictures showing the front side and back side of the wheel and air stem. The first picture shows a closeup of the air stem from the front of the wheel. Notice it is inside the wheel. The second is the front of the wheel. The third is a closeup of the air stem from the back of the wheel and the last is the back of the wheel. I have not broken these down as they came with the tires on them. http://www.flickr.co...s/91885052@N07/

 

Anyone ever seen this before? Could these wheels be much older like 50 or 60s or maybe military?

 

Thanks for input!

 

Steve, GA

[doverarjim]

They look like what I have always heard called "Bud" wheel. I can't tell from the pictures but are they split rims. On the out side of the wheel does it look like the rim comes apart? Most of the trucks that used wheels like that are 50's to 70's.

[markw8]

I'm certain they're not split rims. They are older rims though. Possibly off a cab and chassie or the earliest dually pickup from the late 70s.

 

Mark

[MrSteve]

Mark and Jim,

 

I don't believe they are split rims but at first I thought they were because of the ring around the face. Your info helps. Never really seen a set with the ring around the face. I may just move the air stem, weld up the existing hole and put a new one in about an inch in front. Still thinking about it. Thanks again for the info.

 

Steve

[MrSteve]

Hello all,

 

I need to tap the combined brainage of the forum. I recently picked up some dually wheels. They are 8 lug, 16" and are supposed to be GM. The bolt pattern matches my 88 GMC perfect. The only strange thing about them is the tire air stem. The air stem is actually on the inside of the wheel vs. on the outer face of the wheel. The air stem prevents the wheel from seating against the brake drum as the drum hits the air stem. Also, the way the wheel is constructed looks different and at least one has the following information factory engraved on the wheel as best that I can see. It is engraved with Firestone very clearly. With somelhing like ACS RIDE underneigth it. It as the following numbers as well: 273 (could be 8) 91 and underneigth that is: 1028 752. Here are some pictures showing the front side and back side of the wheel and air stem. The first picture shows a closeup of the air stem from the front of the wheel. Notice it is inside the wheel. The second is the front of the wheel. The third is a closeup of the air stem from the back of the wheel and the last is the back of the wheel. I have not broken these down as they came with the tires on them. http://www.flickr.co...s/91885052@N07/

 

Anyone ever seen this before? Could these wheels be much older like 50 or 60s or maybe military?

 

Already received some good input about them being maybe 70s.

 

Thanks for input!

 

Steve, GA

[TimmyG]

Why not use a 90deg valve stem

 

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[doverarjim]

I can't tell for sure looking at the pictures leads me to think that they are the three piece style rims. On the front side I cant see the whole rim but it is not a regular type of wheel. It looks like you have the split rim that holds the bead rim on to the whole rim. I will try and find some other pictures of this type of wheel. :jester;

[doverarjim]

[MrSteve]

Okay, I found out that these were made by Firestone Steel Products Company as Firestone Accu-ride. The company was bought up and a new company formed called Accuride in 1986. I have an email into the new company. Not having much luck on the part number 273(8)91 although the part number matches the numbers used by the Firestone company. At least I know they are pre1986.

[DragRacer439]

I have the exact same situation with the exact same wheels. The part number for the wheel is actually on the mounting surface. It is 27772. I have yet to find a match in a Budd Wheel.

 

I am in contact with Stockton Wheel in California to see if they cane make me a new set. I believe these are a split rim & will let you know in a day or so after I get the tire dismounted.

 

The problem with mine is the previous owner left the lugs loose, damaging the stud holes which created a crack from a stud hole to the hand hole. I also want to move the valve stem to the outside & get it away from the brake drum.