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New Bridgestone Dueler AT Revo 3 tires


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6 hours ago, Brianibew said:

I run Michelin LTX A/T2.  They are quiet, handle well in the snow, and mileage doesn’t suffer compared to other all terrain tires.  Have no issue getting 50-60k miles out of them before they hit the wear bars.  Worth the extra money.

How are they in the snow/ice? I've considered getting these but I've read that they're not that good in snowy conditions.

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5 hours ago, swoleymammoth said:

How are they in the snow/ice? I've considered getting these but I've read that they're not that good in snowy conditions.

As I said in my original post, they do well in snow.  I don’t know what tire does well on ice besides a studded or a dedicated snow tire.  I live in the Midwest and have run these tires on several of my trucks for years now.

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15 hours ago, Brianibew said:

I run Michelin LTX A/T2.  They are quiet, handle well in the snow, and mileage doesn’t suffer compared to other all terrain tires.  Have no issue getting 50-60k miles out of them before they hit the wear bars.  Worth the extra money.

I would have been running that tire for years now, if it were still available in my stock size; Michelin discontinued my size a few years back.  I don't like running bigger-than-stock tire sizes due to more sluggish handling and acceleration, rubbing issues, and reprogramming the speedo.  

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On 2/18/2019 at 10:53 AM, MaverickZ71 said:

UPDATE:  I pulled the trigger and bought a set of these Bridgestone Dueler A/T REVO 3's in the stock P265/65R18 size the first week in January, to replace my old factory original Dueler A/T RH-S's, which were worn down to 2/32" at 76K miles.  

 

First impressions after 5 weeks with the new Revo 3's, including city/highway/55 degrees F down to negative temps, and some snow and ice:  Even though I asked for them to be road-forced balanced (dunno if they did that or not, as they don't let you back into the service bay to watch), the Revo 3's had a significant rumbling vibration when first installed, to the point where that if I didn't have to immediately go back to work, I'd have driven right back to the Firestone store and told them to start over.  Now, after a month, the vibration has gone down to the point where you can feel it just a little bit on new, smooth asphalt, but everywhere else it has disappeared.  I don't understand that, and have never had anything like it happen before.  On the outside of the wheels, the Revo 3's have just a little more balancing weights than the RH-S's had.  I haven't had any clean pavement (due to the weather) to crawl underneath to see if there are 5 pounds of weight hanging on the inside.  Hopefully not!  My Revo 3's were made in Juliet, Canada the week after Thanksgiving, so they were definitely fresh rubber.  

 

Background info:  The original RH-S's were the best all-around tires that we've ever had.  Killer traction in snow and ice, and we've never ever had a set of tires last 76K miles on a 4WD vehicle before.  But they were no longer available with the outlined white letters.  At the end of their life, the RH-S's made a whomp-whomp-whomp sound on smooth pavement, due to the alignment being a little off (toed out a little too much from the factory), but did not vibrate much if at all.  I never had to have them rebalanced.  Since I drive a lot of highway miles and not so much on mud or gravel anymore, I wanted a set of Dueler H/L Alenza Plus's for replacements, but they have been on backorder from Bridgestone since last September.  So I went with the Revo 3's.  

 

The Revo 3's look good on a Z71.  Their white letters are about 1/2 the size of the RH-S and Alenzas.  And the white letters are on the 1/2 of the sidewall that curves back in towards the wheel.  At certain angles, it looks like blackwalls until you get closer.  

 

Even though Bridgestone's self-described rating system says the RH-S's and Revo 3's are identical on all factors besides noise (with the Revo 3 being 1 factor quieter), my real-world experience has not indicated that.  I think Bridgestone fudges their rating system to get more sales.  The Tire Rack website says the Alenza Plus, RH-S, and Revo 3 in this stock size all weigh in at 41 pounds.  I'm calling BS on that.  If the RH-S's were indeed 41 pounds, the Revo 3's feel like they weigh 50 pounds or more.  The Bridgestone website does not list weights for the Revo 3's like they do for their other tires.  Now I think I know why.  The rolling resistance is much greater at the same inflation pressures.  Where I work, we drive down a hill when leaving.  I had to always hit the brakes on the RH-S to keep from blasting through the gate.  On the Revo 3's, I actually lose speed when coasting down the same hill.  And the transmission kicks down another gear going up some hills, where it never did that on the RH-S's.  Also, the Revo 3's feel like they are softer rubber but the steel belts inside are thicker/tougher.  It feels like their weight pulls them down and they whack down into cracks and potholes more than the RH-S's did.  They seem stiffer on compression, softer on rebound, which also doesn't make much sense to me.  So far, the main problem is my fuel mileage is down at least 20% with the Revo 3's.  And they have a noticable white-noise-like soft hum at all speeds, almost sounds like wind noise, but that is not aggravating like the whomp-whomp-whomp sound the old RH-S's made.  Wet/snow/ice performance is good, but surprisingly, I would rate it a notch below the RH-S on each.  I haven't had them in any significant mud yet--everything is frozen here now.   

 

So far, these Revo 3's are not bad tires, but not as great as I was hoping.  For an oilfield or farm truck or more offroad use, they would be good.  Someone who regularly drives BFGoodrich A/T KO2's or Goodyear Duratracs or Toyo A/T's would maybe think these Revo 3's are smooth and quiet with good gas mileage.  But as it stands now, I'll probably use the 90-day trial period to change back to some Alenza Plus's or another set of RH-S's.

 

What I really want is the all-terrain traction of a Duratrac or KO2 with the road manners and fuel mileage of a Michelin highway tire--don't we all!

FINAL UPDATE:  I swapped these Revo 3's for a set of Bridgestone Dueler H/L Alenza +'s at the end of the 90-day buy and try period.  Here's hoping I don't regret this swap while I'm stuck in the mud or a snowdrift somewhere someday.  

 

The Alenza +'s do roll much easier (less rolling resistance) and are quiet.  But they vibrate a tiny bit, less than the Revo 3's, and are not much more, if any, compliant over the thousands of potholes, bumps, ridges, and other bad pavement issues we have around here.  I'm thinking all Bridgestone tires have relatively stiff sidewalls compared to Michelins, and the Alenza's have a harder rubber compound due to their 80K mile warranty rating. 

 

If I had it to do all over again, in my stock tire size of P265/65R18, I'd gladly forfeit the white letters on the tires and go with the new Michelin Primacy LTX for a highway tire or the new Hankook Dynapro AT2 for an on/off-road all terrain tire.  

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